A Question About Being Banned
Daxx
Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">And/or Temporaily Suspended</div> Just wondering, when your one of the upstanding individuals to recieve this title, are you just barred from posting on the forums, or can you not access them at all? IE: when trying to your directed to a "You are Banned" webpage.
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Banned IP addresses may <i>not</i> view the board, nor can they use the PM system. My understanding is that if a user account is banned but their IP address isn't, they have the viewing rights of a person who hasn't made an account to log in with yet.
*Chuckles under his breath and hands Spyder the hit fee of 50 bucks*
Yeah, but the "Forum Admins" text near your post count replaces the 1000+ posts you had <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"If you feel like it" is a phrase I've already read in a PM about it, and it's a conditional statement I treat as "I'm not sure I want it reset yet." If you volunteer to have your post count reset, I have no intentions of remembering or recording your pre-reset post count number, nor am I going to assume I can trust anyone else to be honest about what it was. This means it's an effectively irreversible decision -- you have to be committed enough that you won't change your mind and want your old, big postcount back.
That said, That Annoying Kid has been correct about some things I hadn't even thought about before resetting mine: it's kinda nice to go through the name and blue block rankings again, and do so more often. "Woo! 50 posts! Woo! 100 posts!" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
So if you want it reset, just PM Coil or me. I'm not sure what his stance is on people who change their minds and want their old postcount back.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This is a good question with a simple answer: we've got enough simple IP tools to know whether a user posts under one IP all the time or multiple IPs, as well as tools to check whether we have any other users within the same close IP range as the one we're about to ban. We do what we can to make sure things are fair <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem still remains that if you ban a number of IPs then someone in the future who is not me wants to register with the forums and cant as thier *banned* would be a tad freaked out.
Although with the amount of IPs around the chances of that would be pretty small <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This is a good question with a simple answer: we've got enough simple IP tools to know whether a user posts under one IP all the time or multiple IPs, as well as tools to check whether we have any other users within the same close IP range as the one we're about to ban. We do what we can to make sure things are fair <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What does restricted mean? (this is simply be being curious <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Back on-topic, what could warrant something as drastic as a IP ban? Something along the lines of continually harrasing forum members/mods/admins, racial slurs, and generally all the really bad parts about being human? And how many have been issued? (Just a number, you need not post their names... but post their names if you want to <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
This is a good question with a simple answer: we've got enough simple IP tools to know whether a user posts under one IP all the time or multiple IPs, as well as tools to check whether we have any other users within the same close IP range as the one we're about to ban. We do what we can to make sure things are fair <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also from what I understand, that IP is banned only from the forums, not the Natural Selection Website itself. So if some innocent sap was to find their IP banned, they could still contact the correct people to get it sorted out without any trouble.
The key phrase there is "a long time ago." At one point tempsuspended users <i>weren't</i> allowed to use the PM system because it resulted in people PMing stuff to friends to post on their behalf, effectively evading us entirely. Eventually we realized that our only options for communicating with tempsuspended members were PMs and Emails, and since not all of us are so keen on handing out our personal e-mail addresses to the unruly ones out there...
Not that I am one but I sure see the advantages.
The key phrase there is "a long time ago." At one point tempsuspended users <i>weren't</i> allowed to use the PM system because it resulted in people PMing stuff to friends to post on their behalf, effectively evading us entirely. Eventually we realized that our only options for communicating with tempsuspended members were PMs and Emails, and since not all of us are so keen on handing out our personal e-mail addresses to the unruly ones out there... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I see. At first I didn't know what I got banned for so I thought that posting rights had been removed so you guys could do maintainence or something along those lines <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Typically all it results in is a nuked avatar or sig. If a user is too lazy or too unskilled with the computer to check that their replacement is under the limits, we'll understand that and simply nuke it repeatedly until they choose a sig that follows the rules, or until we decide they've fallen into the third category of people: ones who purposely defy the rules by putting the same oversized sig up over and over despite multiple cases of removing it. This sort of thing is more likely to get a 1-week tempsuspension, but doesn't happen often.
As always, offensive content in a sig/avatar -- no matter what the size -- will result in it getting removed, and may result in stronger punishment.
Banned IP addresses may <i>not</i> view the board, nor can they use the PM system. My understanding is that if a user account is banned but their IP address isn't, they have the viewing rights of a person who hasn't made an account to log in with yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was temp suspended and never got to see the board, or use pm.
I only saw the board in a different browser...
I wasn't saying he was one of the people routing messages through friends; I don't even remember far back enough to know why he was tempsuspended, and until he mentioned it I didn't even remember it had happened to him at all. All I said was that because of a select case or cases (which, once again, I myself don't even remember who it happened with) the permissions settings for tempsuspended members has changed sometime in between his experience and today. Don't go accusing him now.
And yes, despite local propoganda, if people have valid reason to wonder or contact us after a ban, we do and try make the affair easy enough <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
now that i do... reset mine
umm, admins, I don't get the entire post count reset.
I would be an interesting experiment with normal members, but with admins/mods it dosn't exactly work that well (you have the ubber 'forum wang' hanging right above it by being a mod/admin)..care to explain the reasoning? (honestly curious again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
(note, I like my title, so I think I am gona keep my post count <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
This is the funniest statement I've read all night. Thank you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm not terribly thrilled at being called a "Queen" dark or not, but I can live with it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Edit: How about ADDING to postcounts? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->