Movement First?
TheNova
Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26599Members
Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26599Members
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Place a movement in your hive, a central and a distant vent or equally unreachable place for marines. If they attack your first or second hive you are then either at the hive or a short run from a movement chamber which will get you there instantly.
For example:
ns_eclipse your first hive is maintenance, you'd have a movement in the hive, one around the power sub/station access node in the vents and you'd have another in the high vent near triad.
Another example:
ns_caged your first hive is cargo, one movement in cargo, one above power silo and another in red room.
Protects your investment and increases your capability of protecting the hive.
Fades = celerity
Onos = celerity
Gorges = Adren (always... by going gorge you are dedicating yourself to the team)
Skulks = silence/celerity... adren works once you get leap
I save no ressources, but at least I'm alive, and I don't have to wait for respawn + Go gorge.
Plus, a huge benefit of movement is that you can drop the second hive as soon as you have res, you don't need to worry about whether it will be defended or not, since as soon as it is under attack your whole team can move there instantly.
Lerks should almost always be in the air, patroling the level. If something or someone is under attack, respond quickly. Lerks are far more mobile than skulks, and can either quickly kill lone marines, or spore large groups of marines. Try to stay near the ceiling, as you can always dive downwards for extra escape speed. Before attacking, spore the marine a bit, then fly in, bite quickly, and fly away. Lerks do not need to land at the hive to heal, when simply gliding around the hive is enough.
Lerks are better off with carapace over regeneration. It's far quicker to fly back to the hive to heal than to hide in a vent, where you'll likely face hand grenades. I recommend scent of fear over focus, as this will allow the lerk to prevent phasegates from showing up at the hive.
One downside to M first is that adrenaline isn't really as useful until 2 hives, with the exception of healspray and spores. If you're a gorge at one hive, I'd usually get celerity - can't tell you how many times it's saved my butt, plus you can do riskier OC drops. The one exception would be an early gorge gang, where constant healspray is a must. And don't even get me started on the gorge rush with adren! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
fade can hell do without adren, I do cara.
onos depends.
lerk adren if he is going to endgame fight. (umbra, spore, scream). If not speed to never get hit.
Uh, for Gorge, I'd usually go with Adrenaline at two hives or more because of Bile Bomb, otherwise Celerity. As long as you don't spam Leap, I'd always go with Celerity for Skulks, because it helps them close gaps so much faster. For Fades, I'd go with Adrenaline to keep the Blinking up, clerity for ground movement, or Silence if I want a Super Stalker Fade. And for Onos, I'd get Adrenaline for stomp spam, or Celerity for fast cover. Lerk's always going to be Adrenaline for me, no matter what... It's speed on the ground is pathetic, even with celerity, so you might as well fly, and Silence just ain't for Lerks - They're not as good at ambushing.
fade can hell do without adren, I do cara.
onos depends.
lerk adren if he is going to endgame fight. (umbra, spore, scream). If not speed to never get hit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree 100%
Simply put, a Gorge should not be in a fight unless escorted by other aliens. Even fully upgraded hes a pretty even match for a vanilla marine. So if your just going to be building and staying out of battle, celerity is the far better choice over adrenaline.
A celerity gorge kicks ****!!! Y? Because your everywhere at once. You can get between res points at super speed. If a marine is chasing you addren 9 times out of 10 wont save you. Celer will! Run forest RUN!!!
+When u have extra res, a quick trip back to hive and put up some chambers and keep going.
IMO when i have celerity I last much longer and can put up more buildings then with addren and thus i beleive I can contribute better to the team.
Though you should never have to run away from a marine... I just cant bear to shoot the cute little things =D
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Well, you can bunnyhop to escape too.
Adren makes you far more valuable- Like a portable hive of sorts to heal others. You shouldn't be alone as a gorge facing a rine anyways, communication works well.
Gorges CAN kill with adren, as with celerity, but I find adren a bit better...more spitting and less jumping around.
Adren for heath spray is the real bonus- unlimited healing, essentially.
Insane healspray keepup. you do not need to spend minutes healing a structure, you can also heal teammates like hell. And that rine which found you will eat bacteria alot aswell.
Spit runs out like almost never.
BB. you like building gorges? i like being able to build. Adren ups my time by double atleast. Also its great for building.
Webs. you can web when running, web when fighting and you do nto need to wait to web a few webs in locations.
Why pick silence? MT nukes this perfectly, I calculate ahead. i take that I will live that long. And if you DO get ambushed you got nothing.
Celerity, wow. so you can run. Still lets think how much dmg a LMG does. According to the simulator it takes 23 bullets. Thats one clip.
if we take it worst, lvl3 cara, 3 hives, lvl0 LMG then ti takes 42 bullets. Still one clip.
ANY desent rine can empty a clip before you are out of range. i prefer to fight and take him down with me.
Adren is useful more often as a gorge. But for hive healing, you should have a MC in range of the hive, that way you can take celerity and still heal the hive nonstop. The extra speed lets you run out and take some potshot bilebombs at the siege station, then run back to safety and resume healing.
D is best for noob elites. Its something everyone can use.
Sensory is best for standard pub games were you have 3 people who can full utilize the system(sensorys outside marine spawn+focus+3skulls= marines aint going anywhere)
Without silence, any marine team knows when a gorge is around. Any competent marine team takes out the gorge first when it comes to a fire-fight.
With silence, I can actually hide behind my OC's and healspam them for a much longer time before the marines get wise and pull out the grenades. They don't hear me healing so they keep thinking they're going to go down any second. Usually long enough to net me one more kill from them than I'd otherwise get.
As for first, I really don't know about that. It could work as long as you get the second hive pretty soon. Fades and onoses don't really work all that well without regen. Same goes for the sens first strategy I guess. The advantage of the movement first over the sens first is that when you get to two hives, you're better off, even if you forgo cloaking at one hive.
As for the upgrades, celerity is great for skulks, as it helps close the distance that much quicker. But usually I always take silence when we go MC first. Only problem is, as soon as one or two marines complain about silence skulks, the commander bumps MT up on his priority list, and it's back to square one.
Most people just place d chambers in hive or stuff like that. I like putting 3 together in a vent next to a rt by the marines base. If they elec is a skull can still take it out. Also 3 d healing skull with cara will help block that path.
i used to use my trusty adren always,cause i didnt wanna try and fly away and not be able to get the first few flaps,but.....
with celerity,with 1 flap already going fast,you can fly around the map and it makes it harder for the rines to shoot you down,yes,there is the lack of extra spore spam,but,just dont spore as often,i dont know if spore is more effective if theres 2 spores in same area,but if you spore slow enough,it will be close to as good as regular spore spam