Doom 3 X-box Gets Co-op...

EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">...no co-op for PC though.</div> <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news_6091261.html' target='_blank'>Via Gamespot</a>
Once again the PC gets shafted in the Co-op department, a la Halo.
I can pretty much cross it off my to buy list right now.
(Unless it is really, really, really, really good in single player.)

Comments

  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    there will be mods


    oh yes, there will be mods



    Didn't some one make a mod for Halo PC that adds co-op? (And most poeple didn't like it b/c it just aint as niffty as sitting next to your mates as you rock some alien arse?)
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Yea, smack-talking your pals is always cooler than smack talking 'generic-dude 55' 2000 miles away. If you're playing for the first time you get the cool story and stuff together..and if there's cool physics, you can do cool stuff together, like in Halo.


    Especially 1st person driving in Halo...now there's fun (it's hard, but fun...especially if you flip the jeep).
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't some one make a mod for Halo PC that adds co-op? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh oh oh! Where?!

    Yeah, there's always going to be Mod with X-Box won't get, and HL2's cool.
  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    There's always one thing that the PC has over the X-Box:

    Graphics.

    I'm sure that Doom 3 will be either:

    A) Laggy as f***.

    or

    B) Running on medium-low graphics quality.

    And not to mention the huge-arsed controller the X-Box uses.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Still kinda sucks though.

    Had a lot of fun with JDoom and that stuff co-op over the net.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    To be honest I put down the lack of coop on PC games these days as a combination of developer/publisher laziness combined with a complete and utter lack of understanding for the market <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    well that and the factor that playing co op games with random people realy aint that fun.

    There isn't the same feeling when you can just shout 'yo, some one take out that frikken sniper' and some one does <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    that and the factor that there are just to many stupid people out there that enjoy griefing....



    Personaly, the best games I ever played were LAN games of BF1942.
    Set the AI all the way up.
    Make the team balance so that it would be the 3-7 of us vs 20+bots.
    Procede to kick some ARSE! or get our bums handed to us <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The close games were the best <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 11 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 11 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well that and the factor that playing co op games with random people realy aint that fun.

    There isn't the same feeling when you can just shout 'yo, some one take out that frikken sniper' and some one does <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    that and the factor that there are just to many stupid people out there that enjoy griefing....



    Personaly, the best games I ever played were LAN games of BF1942.
    Set the AI all the way up.
    Make the team balance so that it would be the 3-7 of us vs 20+bots.
    Procede to kick some ARSE! or get our bums handed to us <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The close games were the best <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NOW THAT IS FUN MY FRIEND!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hehe, some one understands our madness <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    One of our favorite (and rarely one) amps consisted of... bugger forgot alot of stuff:

    One of the teams starts of controlling 6 or 7 spots (3 of them being front line)
    The other team has to push fowards (or use a small track around the bottom edge to get to the last spawn)

    Generaly, the first 3 spawns are lost quickly, and then the next 2 (or 3, can't remember) are fought over for some time. Finaly the defenders GENERALY get pushed back to one spawn and throw everytihng at it till the timmer runs out.

    This would involve 2-3 people sniping form our base.
    1-2 people shelling like crazy (tanks generaly)
    and 1-2 of the psychos (me included) going assault and holding off the brunt of the assault by use of houses that they had to pass <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • weggyweggy Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16998Members
    Co-op is almost always more fun than DM.

    Regardless, there will be mods to add Co-op, so I wouldnt worry.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    than... all I gotta say is PSO = coop with strangers = immense fun.
    It works when it's done right... it sucks when it's not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • FinaFina Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3267Members
    Co-Op is great fun when you're with friends.

    I often get together with a group of around 4-6 friends and get a game of Sven-Coop running. Everyone knows each other, everyone is using voice-com to talk, it's just great fun.

    The only two games I can think of that shipped with Co-Op mode are the Serious Sam series, which lets you play through the whole game in co-op with a large number of skill settings available to tweak it, and No One Lives Forever 2 co-op is also great fun while it lasts. Unfortunately, you can only play through 6 smaller co-op missions which are set in single-player locations, but are different missions. They're short but fun.

    OOOH, and the Descent games have Co-Op too.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Wheeee. Decent 1 was great fun coop. It's probably the first MP game I ever played. It was over a null modem link. ^_^

    --Scythe--
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    ...


    DAMN IT!!!

    Jeez, its like both DOOM3 and HL2 took the same train to Stupidville. At least there's The Twin Snakes...
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fina+Mar 11 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fina @ Mar 11 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Co-Op is great fun when you're with friends.

    I often get together with a group of around 4-6 friends and get a game of Sven-Coop running. Everyone knows each other, everyone is using voice-com to talk, it's just great fun.

    The only two games I can think of that shipped with Co-Op mode are the Serious Sam series, which lets you play through the whole game in co-op with a large number of skill settings available to tweak it, and No One Lives Forever 2 co-op is also great fun while it lasts. Unfortunately, you can only play through 6 smaller co-op missions which are set in single-player locations, but are different missions. They're short but fun.

    OOOH, and the Descent games have Co-Op too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    DESCENT!

    Oh man, a friend and I would jump on every day after school and try and get the highest level we could...

    Man, level 10 was hard, even when the two of us were spamming plasma rockets and level 4 quad lasers...

    *sigh*
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    Co-op is some of the best fun you could possibley have, when will dev teams put it in standard on PCs.

    *This is my 100<u>th</u> post! YAY!*
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    I remember having absolute madness fun with my friend in Co-Op Final Doom, on that one city level on Plutonia that was like impossible (especailly on Ultra-Violent ^_^). Holy hell, that was fun. Hey... Anyone wanna start some co-op Doom?
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    In the interviews they keep saying that it's "too hard" to do co-op over the internet in modern games. Sounds like **** to me, because co-op is one of the most ingenious game modes ever invented. I've spent over 100 hours playing Legendary Halo co-op with my friend. It just never gets old... I remember the first time we came across the huge **** Covenant force at the end of level 8 on co-op legendary... We sucked back then, and we kept dying and trying new strats, but it was fun as hell. Now I can take those Covies single-handed with a nice shotgun.

    So, it's very dissappointing to me to see all these potentially great games having their replayability and general goodness reduced by the lack of co-op.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    GOD BLOODY DAMN IT! I love Co-op and I love Doom. Why the HELL are they removing co-op on the PC? It makes no sense.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Mar 11 2004, 04:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 11 2004, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...


    DAMN IT!!!

    Jeez, its like both DOOM3 and HL2 took the same train to Stupidville. At least there's The Twin Snakes... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And ninja gaiden! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlaqWolfBlaqWolf Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1667Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 11 2004, 08:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 11 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't some one make a mod for Halo PC that adds co-op? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh oh oh! Where?!

    Yeah, there's always going to be Mod with X-Box won't get, and HL2's cool. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i second this!

    first one to give me a link gets a cookie...

    a HUGE cookie!
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 11 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 11 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There isn't the same feeling when you can just shout 'yo, some one take out that frikken sniper' and some one does <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ever play with clannies on TeamSpeak? It's just as fun in my opinion.

    But I have to agree with Gem here. It seems like developers don't even know people <i>want</i> co-op.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    OWNED by the king of consoles
  • FinaFina Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3267Members
    More like OWNED by developers that don't know what Gamers want.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlaqWolf+Mar 11 2004, 08:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlaqWolf @ Mar 11 2004, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 11 2004, 08:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 11 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 11 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't some one make a mod for Halo PC that adds co-op? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh oh oh! Where?!

    Yeah, there's always going to be Mod with X-Box won't get, and HL2's cool. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i second this! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But you see that's a part of the problem. id started doing this crap with Quake 3, and now they're continuing to do it with DOOM 3. Rather than coding the crap they should be coding themselves and officially supporting they just "oh well the mod community will handle that part...". Really stupid. I mean when nobody was getting coop in DOOM 3, that I didn't mind so much and could understand that they didn't want to take the time to implement it blah blah blah. But this? This is just an outrage.

    Come on id, I know you're not broke, I haven't seen any ferarri's up for bid on eBay...
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Well, someone HAS to mod Doom3. Otherwsie its just a graphics engine.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Edit: On second thought, that didn't show enough rage or hate.

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Impact'><span style='color:red'>RAGE AND HATE FOR SHAFTING PC GAMES</span></span></span>

    ...k I'm done.
  • CommandoCommando Join Date: 2002-05-22 Member: 657Members, NS1 Playtester
    Every game should have coop...

    Lazy developers.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Mar 12 2004, 08:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Mar 12 2004, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, someone HAS to mod Doom3. Otherwsie its just a graphics engine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank God someone said it, I was going out of my tree.
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