Best Combat Combinations

Thats_EnoughThats_Enough USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
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<div class="IPBDescription">your 1337 combos for CO</div> Just wondering...

What are some of your favorite combinations of upgrades for marine and alien when playing combat. You know, you only have 10 levels you can go, so only so many upgrades/evolutions.

I like doing super <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo--> on pubs :-p aka:

1: cloaking
2: focus
3: leap
4: xeno
5: carapace
6: regen
7: silence
8: scent of fear
9: w/e
10: w/e

9 and 10 are when I just wanna mess around. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Robert_PaulsonRobert_Paulson Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18543Members
    Because your first two upgrades are the most common...I go:

    2. Armor 1
    3. Sensor Sweep
    4. Wep 1
    5. Shotgun
    6. Armor 2
    7.
    8. HA
    9. Welder/Wep 2 (depends on attack or defense)
    10. Depends on what is needed.

    Have fun wasting your first two upgrades <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    As alien going to Onos

    2. Clerity
    3. Carapace
    4. Regen
    5.
    6.
    7. Fade
    8.
    9. Onos
    10.

    Alien as Battle Gorge

    2. Hive 2
    3. Hive 3
    4. Gorge
    5. Clerity
    6. Carapace
    7. Regen
    8.
    9.
    10.
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  • Act_ChillAct_Chill Join Date: 2003-04-24 Member: 15816Members
    I like going vanilla fade mostly b/c of shotties. A good marine can get bit by a cloak/focus skull (with armor level 1) and shoot it once with a shotty. I would have to say going for zeno is the best strat but something I dont do. If your whole team gets zeno marines cant camp and dont get xp.

    For marines I go for JP or HA, which doesnt leave many options open although I think all marines should get level 1 armor first.
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Although this thread has been done again, and again, and yet again... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Onos
    focus, celerity, carapace, regen, onos.

    Superskulk with possibility to gorge if needed
    focus, celerity, silence, sof, regen, ability 2, ability 3, adrenaline, (gorge)

    Marine
    armor1, weapon1, resupply,
    -> shotgun, weapon2, weapon3, armor2, jp
    -> armor2, jp (doesn't matter)
    -> shotgun, gl, motion, weapon2, weapon3, welder
    -> shotgun, hmg, weapon2, weapon3, motion/welder
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  • Thats_EnoughThats_Enough USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Just because it's been done again and again doesn't mean we shouldn't do it AGAIN! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I have to say, one game we played (on a 24 person NS server), all 12 of us aliens went super-skulk and got xeno. It wasn't really a serious game in the first place, and the rine team sucked anyway. Let's just say... the sound of about 8 skulks xenoing at the SAME TIME is scary as hell. It just kept coming in waves haha.

    But question for everyone... whats the BEST weapon combo w/ armor to you guys for rines? At our last LAN party, we were all arguing over what was the best combo, but of course in the end it came down to how skilled the person was and if they had backup. Just curious tho.
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  • Robert_PaulsonRobert_Paulson Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18543Members
    It really depends on what is comming at you....tons of xeno skulks and spore lerks, go for HA with armor 3 and a mix match of HMG/Shotgun/GL....and a few with welders...

    Onos and fades...go for a few JP's with GL's...

    Really no one upgrade path is the best, it really depends on the team attacking.
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  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    Well if my team is good I usually get:

    Dmg 1
    Shotgun
    Dmg2
    dmg3
    resupply
    armor1
    armor2
    jetpack or heavy

    Yes I do sneak by with armor late i nthe game.

    My team is ok i usally get..

    Armor 1
    Dmg 1
    Shotgun
    dmg2
    resupply
    HMG
    armor 2
    MT
    Jetpack/heavy

    I usually dont rush jp or HA
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  • f3rretf3rret Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 686Members
    If I'm planning on going Onos, then I CAN'T get focus. That screws me right there. If I'm going Fade, then focus is one of my first picks.

    Focus screws me as an Onos.
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    Marine: Armor 1, Wep 1, Wep 2, Shotgun or Wep 3, Armor 2, JP or HA

    Of course, depending on the situation there, I sometimes get MT or Resupply or a Welder.

    Battle Gorge: Hive 2, SOF, Hive 3, Celerity, * Regen/Adren/Cara
    I also end up getting Cloaking or Silence.
    The Star is the point at which I go gorge, or I wait for more upgrades, but I never do before I get my web. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    The reason for getting web before going gorge and getting sof too is so that i can xeno huge groups of rines and level up faster.
    Once I'm a batle gorge, I often set traps and lie in wait. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    My traps are often quite elaborate, which includes some webbing near the ceiling to catch any jpers. My web is nromally on the ground or high up, so they are less likely to see it.
    One thing I pride myself on is my ability to web JPers out of the air (without previously placed webs)

    Super Lerk: Celerity and Focus/SOF,* Carapace/Regen/Adren/Silence
    The way I do it is I get focus or celerity, depending ont he map (bigger ones = celerity), or depending on the number of players, i get sof (small number = sof extremely helpful)
    Once I'm lerk I own.

    I almost never go fade or onos, and normally don't stay skulk till the end, and if I do, i just follow my battle gorge one, but just never go gorge. (thus, i do lots of xeno, using sof, so then i weaken or kill as many as possible, and send tons of rines really quickly to the respawn queue.
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  • wascally_wabbitwascally_wabbit Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20701Members
    Fade + Anything
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  • SiDSquishySiDSquishy Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21704Members
    Just a little tip. If your playing against one of the top clans have a guy get cloaking. The **** hate getting scan and if you only have 1 or 2 cloakers won't even bother because they're stat **** and don't want to waste the point.
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  • RedWingateRedWingate Join Date: 2004-03-15 Member: 27349Members, Constellation
    Marine:
    AU1 - WP1 - SG - AU2 - x - JP - Resupply - GL - WP2 (offence)
    AU1 - WP1 - SG - AU2 - x - JP - Welder - Resupply - WP2 (defence)

    Alien:
    Focus - Celerity - x - Lerk - Carap - Regen - Adren - Hive1 - Hive2
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  • EZeroEZero Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19572Members
    Aliens

    1) Leap
    2) Focus
    3) Adren
    4) Regen
    5) Save
    6) Save
    7) Fade
    8) Carapace
    9) Celerity

    Marines

    1) Weapon 1
    2) Shotgun
    3) Weapon 2
    4) Resupply
    5) Armor 1
    6) Armor 2
    7) Save
    8) JP / HA
    9) Weapon 3

    depends on if the team needs welders......if they do ill scrap weapon 3 and get welder earlier on
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Alien :

    2) Focus
    3-5) Fade, gorging if needed
    6) Celerity
    7) Regen
    8) Carapace
    9) Weapon 3
    10) Weapon 4


    Marine:

    2) Weapon 1
    3) Shotgun
    4) Armor 1
    5) Armor 2
    6-7) Jetpack
    8) Weapon 2 or resupply, or welder if needed
    9) Weapon 3 or 2
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  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    1. weapons 1
    2. shotgun
    3. armor 1
    4. weapons 2
    5. weapons 3
    6. MT
    7. Cat Pack
    8. Scanning
    9. welder

    And then i like to camp a room then get called a aimbotter and get banned <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-sk84zer0+Mar 15 2004, 04:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sk84zer0 @ Mar 15 2004, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And then i like to camp a room then get called a aimbotter and get banned <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you really need all that other stuff for that? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Act_ChillAct_Chill Join Date: 2003-04-24 Member: 15816Members
    sk84zer0 that is the worst combo ever. Although its nice to have that stuff having level 1 armor no jp or HA = owned by good players. If you changed like your weapons3 to mines you would make a good support unit for rines.
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  • SiDSquishySiDSquishy Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21704Members
    The thing is sk8 could probly get any 10 upgs and still have the top score on most pubs so does it really matter chill?
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  • Act_ChillAct_Chill Join Date: 2003-04-24 Member: 15816Members
    lol it is true that most players arent good player. I did say good players though...
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  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    Marine:
    1: Resupply
    2:Dmg1
    3:SG
    3:A1
    4:A2
    5:-
    6:JP

    That's what i usually get, after lvl.6 i choose upgrades depending the Aliens/Marines.
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  • PubliusPublius Join Date: 2004-03-15 Member: 27348Members
    For Marine :

    1. Armor 1 (stops focus)
    2. Weapon 1
    3. Shotgun
    4. Resupply
    5. Weapon 2
    6. Welder or Mines (depending if my team is noob)
    7. Armor 2
    8. Weapon 2
    9.
    10. JP or HA

    A well rounded marine

    For Battle Gorge
    1. focus
    2.Adren (a must have for gorge or lerk)
    3. ability 3
    4. ability 4
    5. Gorge
    6. Regen
    7. Cara
    8. Celerity
    9. what ever
    10 . what ever

    Depending on the map I will get scent of fear

    p.s. I hate super skulks, in a long battle they become useless.
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  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    edited March 2004
    Catpack Berserker

    2 - Weap 1
    3 - Shotgun
    4 - Weap 2
    5 - Weap 3 (All skulks and lerks are now able to be killed in one hit, fairly early in the game, as well.)
    6 - Catpack
    7 - Armor 1/Scan \ Changes due to needs
    8 - Scan/Armor 1 /
    9 - Mines
    10 - Resupply

    Asal Teh Nade SpammAr

    2 - Weap 1
    3 - Shotgun
    4 - GL
    5 - MT
    6 - Weap 2
    7 - Weap 3
    8 - Armor 1
    9 - Welder
    10 - Resupply

    Those are the two most common things I get, so have fun laughing at them. My setups are really offensive in concept, but it works really well if you have others in HA and JP. Please note, if I'm on a combat server, I do -not- get HA or JP.....it improves my survivability in true NS when it really matters....after you dodge focus fades with a shottie, then non-focus fades aren't that big of an issue. For me, NS:C is just a training ground.

    Edit: For alien, I'm nothing but a gorge:

    2 - Celerity
    3 - Carapace
    4 - Focus
    5 - New Ability
    6 - Adren
    7 - Gorge
    8 - Regen
    9 - New Ability
    10 - SoF
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  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    1. Carapace
    2. Celerity
    3. (Gorge)
    4. Lerk
    5. Focus
    6. Regen
    7. Adren
    8. SoF
    9. Cloak/Silence/Redemption
    10. Next Ability

    Heh.

    And for the fade it's nearly similar, just scrap the next ability/lerk and swap celerity for something else and *poof* supa-fade. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    leap, adren, regen, save for fade, save for onos, carapace or charge.
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Mar 15 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Mar 15 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. Carapace
    2. Celerity
    3. (Gorge)
    4. Lerk
    5. Focus
    6. Regen
    7. Adren
    8. SoF
    9. Cloak/Silence/Redemption
    10. Next Ability <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You only get 9 upgrades, not 10, since you start at level 1.
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  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    As rine-

    scan
    welder
    lv. 1 damage
    Grenade
    catpacks
    mines
    resupply
    lv. 2 damage
    lv. 3 damage


    As aleins


    Adren
    Gorge
    Cloaking
    SOF
    Scilence
    Focus
    Redempt
    Celerity
    Regen






    OMG OWNAGE PATHS
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  • Fro5tyFro5ty Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21238Members, Constellation
    Alien:
    Uber Lurk:
    Cara
    Leap
    Celer
    Save
    Lerk
    Adren
    Regen
    SoF
    What ever I want. Usually I get silence. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Perma gorge:
    adren
    cara
    Leap
    gorge
    Web
    regen
    celer
    cloaking
    Anything else.

    Fade 1:
    Cara
    Leap
    Celer
    Adren
    save
    save
    Fade
    Regen
    Silence >: )

    Fade 2:
    Cara
    Leap
    Celer
    Focus
    Adren
    save
    save
    Fade
    Regen

    Onos:
    Cara
    Celer
    Regen
    save
    save
    save
    save
    Onos
    Stomp or a sensory upgrade.

    Skulk:
    Repeat with uber lerk minus I get Xeno instead of saveing and I don't ever get focus. I rarely do this....


    Marines:

    JP SG:
    A1
    W1
    W2
    SG
    A2
    save
    JP
    W3
    Cats or Resup, depends if there's good lerks or sporing lerks.

    JP HMG:
    ""
    ""
    save
    HMG
    W2
    A2
    W3
    save
    JP

    JP GL:
    ""
    ""
    ""
    GL
    Resup
    A2
    save
    JP
    If I don't have to spend on a welder or something like that, I get W2 before A2.

    As for HA, replace all the JPs with HAs. I usually serve as the firepower on the team. I have it soon then most and use it more effectively. If someone ever complains though that I got a GL, then next game I get an HMG and show them I was handicaping myself.
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  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    edited March 2004
    1]celerity
    2]save
    3]gorge;lerk
    4]carapace
    5]umbra
    6]adren
    7]silence
    8]sof
    9]primal
    0](i had regen ^ and primal here,then remembered you only get 9 upgrades,ill just fly to hive or chuckle till a gorge heals me)

    HAs hate the silenced lerk with primal doing 27 bps(bite per second)[heh,i dont really think its that fast] and they cant hear anything
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  • KoniaXKoniaX Join Date: 2003-02-16 Member: 13641Members, Constellation
    <u><span style='color:red'>Marine</span></u>

    <u>Shotgun</u>
    Weapons 1
    Shotgun
    Armor 1
    Armor 2
    Save
    Jetpack
    Weapons 2
    Weapons 3
    Resupply

    <u>Grenade Launcher</u>
    Same as above but don't get Weapons 3

    <u>Support Marine</u>
    Mines
    Armor 1
    Welder
    Armor 2
    Save
    Heavy Armor
    Weapons 1
    Weapons 2
    Resupply

    <span style='color:green'><u>Aliens</u></span>

    <u>Super Skulk</u>
    Focus
    Celerity
    Leap
    Carapace
    Adrenaline
    Xenocide
    Regeneration
    Scent Of Fear
    Silence

    <u>Fade</u>
    Focus
    Celerity
    Save
    Save
    Fade
    Regeneration
    Adrenaline
    Carapace
    Scent Of Fear
    *Notice that I didn't put upgrade lvl 2 in here for metabolize. I have never found this particularily useful, but I know many players do*

    <u>Lerk</u>
    Same thing as fade but take one of the saves out and put in Umbra

    <u>Onos</u>
    Save
    Save
    Save
    Save
    Onos
    Upgrade Stomp
    Regeneration
    Celerity
    Adrenaline (for stomp spamming)
    * I didn't add carapace in here because it only gives you 150 more armor and in my opinion, useless*

    Any comments, questions?
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  • BenaiahBenaiah Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22517Members
    I love super lerk
    1. Focus For spawn camping
    2. Leap For getting em without em getting u + gives umbra
    3. Celer Needed for lerk
    4. Save
    5. Lerk
    6. Addren
    7. Cara
    8. Regen
    9. Usually get scent but
    sometimes get primal in big games

    I find this combo good because ur not a vanilla lerk for anytime at all.
    I hate saving too early because you get raped by those marines. A leap
    focus skulk is all you need to level up, but a lerk without celerity is useless.
    (unless your a spore ****)

    Have fun.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    If I am messing around



    Focus
    Leap
    Silence
    Sof
    Cara
    Regen
    (Thats all)



    For real

    Cele
    Regen
    Sof
    Thats it
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