Two new special effects

Yamazaki · February 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Download the wad</div><a href="http://www.kreation.org/ns/yama-effects.wad" target="_blank">Download</a>

Here is the wad file with two animating texture sets.

The first set is a pulsating alien infestation, for use on large growths and clumps. It has a very organic look to it when in-game. It was created using the Distort->Pinch filter in Photoshop 6.

The second set is a water effect for use with shaded water. RAD won't shade water that is textured with normal !water textures, so this gets around that limitation. As long as the entity brush is not transparent it will be shaded properly.

Feel free to use these in your NS maps. You can modify them as you see fit.

Silver_Fox · February 2002

awsome ...

quite simply awsome ...

Freestyler · February 2002

/me downloads...

/me opens

/me likes

I'll try them ingame later but from scrolling through them fast in Wally, they look pretty good! Neat idea too!

Unknown · February 2002

thanks for that wad

KungFuSquirrel · February 2002

You have no idea how cool this looks on the ceiling of my infested areas. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Doesn't work out quite as well on the globs piling up on the floor, but the ceiling... yikes, this makes for some very disturbing scenery. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Wurmspawn · February 2002

w00p! yama-water! it may taste like yama but it sure looks good ~;o

Relic25 · February 2002

Very cool. I only wish I weren't already at 4 megs of texture use, otherwise I'd jump on these!

Btw, I did get your e-mail about this. Sorry I hadn't responded. These will be a great addition, and the water idea is wonderful!

Freestyler · February 2002

Relic, you probably already know this, but WC resports the texture Usage incorectly. You need to look in the log at the end of the CSG part. heres a copy of that part from a map where WC was reporting over 5mb of textures:

CreateBrush:
(199.27 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.06 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(31.63 seconds)

Object names Objects/Maxobjs Memory / Maxmem Fullness
------------ --------------- --------------- --------
models 0/400 0/25600 ( 0.0)
planes 23438/32767 468760/655340 (71.5)
vertexes 0/65535 0/786420 ( 0.0)
nodes 0/32767 0/786408 ( 0.0)
texinfos 6913/32767 276520/1310680 (21.1)
faces 0/65535 0/1310700 ( 0.0)
clipnodes 0/32767 0/262136 ( 0.0)
leaves 0/8192 0/229376 ( 0.0)
marksurfaces 0/65535 0/131070 ( 0.0)
surfedges 0/512000 0/2048000 ( 0.0)
edges 0/256000 0/1024000 ( 0.0)
texdata [variable] 0/4194304 ( 0.0)
lightdata [variable] 0/4194304 ( 0.0)
visdata [variable] 0/2097152 ( 0.0)
entdata [variable] 0/524288 ( 0.0)
0 textures referenced
=== Total BSP file data space used: 745280 bytes ===
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns_bast.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns_eniant.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\xeno.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\liquids.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\halflife.wad
added 14 additional animating textures.
Texture usage is at 2.75 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
236.23 seconds elapsed [3m 56s]

----- END hlcsg -----

Yamazaki · February 2002

I'm currently at 5.99 megs of texture data. I'm not sure how I can lower that value below 4megs, unless the WAD format is somehow making my BMPs larger than they should be.

I'm using almost 95% custom textures, straight from my own WAD. I occasionally use some standard HL textures for trims and such.

Yolmer · February 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Freestyler @ Feb. 22 2002,10:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Relic, you probably already know this, but WC resports the texture Usage incorectly. You need to look in the log at the end of the CSG part. heres a copy of that part from a map where WC was reporting over 5mb of textures:

CreateBrush:
(199.27 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.06 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(31.63 seconds)

Object names Objects/Maxobjs Memory / Maxmem Fullness
------------ --------------- --------------- --------
models 0/400 0/25600 ( 0.0)
planes 23438/32767 468760/655340 (71.5)
vertexes 0/65535 0/786420 ( 0.0)
nodes 0/32767 0/786408 ( 0.0)
texinfos 6913/32767 276520/1310680 (21.1)
faces 0/65535 0/1310700 ( 0.0)
clipnodes 0/32767 0/262136 ( 0.0)
leaves 0/8192 0/229376 ( 0.0)
marksurfaces 0/65535 0/131070 ( 0.0)
surfedges 0/512000 0/2048000 ( 0.0)
edges 0/256000 0/1024000 ( 0.0)
texdata [variable] 0/4194304 ( 0.0)
lightdata [variable] 0/4194304 ( 0.0)
visdata [variable] 0/2097152 ( 0.0)
entdata [variable] 0/524288 ( 0.0)
0 textures referenced
=== Total BSP file data space used: 745280 bytes ===
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns_bast.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\nstr\ns_eniant.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\xeno.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\liquids.wad
Using WAD File: \games\half-life\valve\halflife.wad
added 14 additional animating textures.
Texture usage is at 2.75 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
236.23 seconds elapsed [3m 56s]

----- END hlcsg -----</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I am glad you said that. WC reported that my map uses 3,7megs of texturedata, but when I checked the logfile, it said that I only used 1,48megs.

Relic25 · February 2002

I don't use WC to check the texture usage. I have always used CSG, and I'm at 4.13 megs now, which means I'll need to probably remove a texture or two to get under 4 again.

Flayra · February 2002

How about some screenshots and/or animated .gifs showing this effect? Or perhaps a .bsp for the rest of us? I've heard this pulsating goo looks great but I haven't seen it yet.

Freestyler · February 2002

Just the thought of a room full of this stuff makes me feel queezy :/

[EDIT: Imagine puttins some of this stuff onto a func_water with a high wave height! ARG!]

Blahman · February 2002

Cool yama.
But. Please make another pulsating goo texture, except make it so that there are several smaller pulses going on at different times and in different spots on the texture so that it can be used without looking repetitive.

Greedo · February 2002

Well, Flayra asked for some .gifs, and I had nothing better to do, so here ya go (I had to resize them to 64x64 to keep the file sizes down, but you get the idea, I think).

First, the alien goo:

Greedo · February 2002

And also, the animation speed is a little slower in game.

Here's the water:

Black_Dog · February 2002

well but...is the NS team pushing for some Mb limits? cos i knew that using Zoner's tools u can set a new Mb dimension for map textures <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Moleculor · February 2002

They're aiming for the HL requirements. Meaning a graphics card with only four megs of memory. Which means you can only have four megs of textures in your map.

Yamazaki · February 2002

I've brought my texture usage down below 5megs. I had to resize the puslating goo texture down to 128x128, as the 10 256x256 images were really eating up space.

I can make another texture that has more than one pulse with different timings. I'll start work on that tomorrow.

Yamazaki · February 2002

I've updated the WAD and reuploaded it to Comprox. Click the original link in the first post to download the new wad.

What's new? Another blob texture. This one is 128x128, but has 4 pulses instead of just one, and each pulse is unique. It's more subtle than the first, but adds a little variety.

Cremator · February 2002

nice textures...

steppio · February 2002

<a href="http://vibrants.dk/jchq/faq/errors.htm" target="_blank">http://vibrants.dk/jchq/faq/errors.htm</a>
if thats use to anybody

Yamazaki · February 2002

*bump*

Two new special effects

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