Some Fun With Onos

ZERG

<div class="IPBDescription">1 Hit Kills and LA Marines</div> Hmm, don't know about you guys, but I'm having a lot of success with this 3 hive onos combo. It's not a big deal, but hopefully I can get the word out and edumacate some people. Maybe this will help people end the game faster with this. Yknow those evil marines that cycle their HMGs and whatnots.

Onos: Regen, Adrenaline, and Focus!

I don't need to explain the regen. But adrenaline is so you can dish out more damage with charge! Yes, that's right charge. If marines have level 0-1 armor you can dish it out old school 1.04 style. For armor levels above this, that's what focus gore is for!

Use charge to soften up their armor. Just a small touch will do. Hit them with focus gore and it will either a) kill them with the focus gore b) after focus gore the rest of the charge damage will finish them off or c) charge will kill them before you let off your focus gore.

You know you are doing this right when you are practically running over LA marines.

RaVe

Well, ofcourse, this requires you to pick your targets one by one with gore....

THEN you smack them with charge <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Lucky

Focus for onos basically cripples him for his main task - base assault. Picking out the marines with focus is the fade's job, not onos'. Stomp and let your fades to deal with it. Charge+normal gore/devour kills marines almost as well anyway.
Dropped damage ratio over time is DEFIENTLY not worth the increased gore damage for onos, especially since it does 2x damage vs buildings.

Forlorn

<!--QuoteBegin-Lucky_+Mar 20 2004, 12:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lucky_ @ Mar 20 2004, 12:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Focus for onos basically cripples him for his main task - base assault. Picking out the marines with focus is the fade's job, not onos'. Stomp and let your fades to deal with it. Charge+normal gore/devour kills marines almost as well anyway.
Dropped damage ratio over time is DEFIENTLY not worth the increased gore damage for onos, especially since it does 2x damage vs buildings. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Still, remember that if you do take focus as an onos, your main job is killing marines.

And trust me, a focus onos is VERY hard to stop as marines.

Apocalypsecow

<!--QuoteBegin-ZERG!!+Mar 20 2004, 05:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ Mar 20 2004, 05:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm, don't know about you guys, but I'm having a lot of success with this 3 hive onos combo. It's not a big deal, but hopefully I can get the word out and edumacate some people. Maybe this will help people end the game faster with this. Yknow those evil marines that cycle their HMGs and whatnots.

Onos: Regen, Adrenaline, and Focus!

I don't need to explain the regen. But adrenaline is so you can dish out more damage with charge! Yes, that's right charge. If marines have level 0-1 armor you can dish it out old school 1.04 style. For armor levels above this, that's what focus gore is for!

Use charge to soften up their armor. Just a small touch will do. Hit them with focus gore and it will either a) kill them with the focus gore b) after focus gore the rest of the charge damage will finish them off or c) charge will kill them before you let off your focus gore.

You know you are doing this right when you are practically running over LA marines. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wouldn't recommend using charge considering it's notoriously hard to use and (which is why is also seldom used). I think you're better off using a stomp + devour combo.

<b>Edit:</b> Focus also destoys whatever ability you have to take down structures. Which, if you're Onos and have 3 hives is pretty much your only purpose unless you <i>really</i> need to kill heavies fast.

ZERG

The end game is nothing more than killing the marines left over. If there is any structure razing needed the charge + focus gore actually does equal the amount of damage if not even more. And if you're attacking MS, the marines come first not the structures.

Anyway, I suggest you actually try it. I could get a demo of it in action. But I got no webspace. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Norml_E_High

Heh I dunno, using charge with focus kind of seems dumb to me. You could cause more damage just doing gore. But, I can never bring myself to choose focus as an onos. I don't like the loss of attack speed for gore, I mean killing marines easily is great and all, but if I need to take out structures, Im considerably weaker. I usually just go with adrenaline, regen, and scent of fear, so I know what I'm getting into.

deaincaelo

now, i havent been able to play 3.0 (my schools lan blocks steam) but i did the math on focus here <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62912&st=45' target='_blank'>the math on focus</a>

according to the info provided the damage over time on focus is the same as without, so it shouldnt impact your ability to take down buildings at all.

edit: actually, with the lower adren cost of using fewer attacks focus is basically the same as adren. and onos with both would take forever to run out of adren while gore/charging....

ThorStryker

The trade off is for the lower adren is that you have to make your hits count. I tend to switch between rines and buildings often, Focus takes time to recharge as compared to Normal. Not to mention your horn becomes an automatic gore-gun when Primal Sream happens.
My method for base assault:
Adren:
SoF
Cara
Marine Hunter:
Celerity
Focus or SoF
Regen
Regen on marine hunting helps because your not going to be attacking a fortified area. All you have to do is stomp/devour a rine and you've got a nice heal rate going on. As for base assault, regen+devour isnt significant for hit and runs, especially since your slowed.

Deathage

im not sure bout those numbers. im pretty sure its not 50% more damage per hit and its alot more than -33% RoF.

Thrillhouse

Nah, fun with Onos was back in 2.0 going Cara Silence Phermones "Pwnos" and seeing how long it takes you to die.

deaincaelo

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those are the numbers in the manual version 2. if the manual is wrong (as it often is after a number of updates) i would appreciate updated information, and a link to the source. and remeber, these numbers are per focus level. so if you start out with lvl 3 focus, your Rof is about -70%. i really want to get this right, cause its a game fact and kinda important, ne?

Act_Chill

If it only takes 2 focus hits to kill something focus will kill that objest faster, b/c there is no wait to use your first attack, so you can get 2 focus hits in the sametime as it takes to get 3 regular bites. Of course if you do like 5 focus attacks it will be slower than 10 regular attacks. It all depends on how accurate you are with focus or regular and how many guys you are fighting.

Doobie_Dan

I actually take Adren/Focus quite a bit. It's basically the only way to charge/gore effectively. Without Adren charge is useless as a combat skill and is only useful for getting the hell out when the HMGs beacon back. Even with Adren, charge/gore wears out your energy really quickly, and you end up stuck in the middle of the marine base without celerity or energy for charge = onos burgers. Focus, while you do less damage to buildings, makes charging as a base assault weapon actually plausible, charge/gore one marine, turn around and charge/gore the next, hit the armory until your energy is almost gone then run for the door.

When charging to escape, no matter what upgrades you have, remember to crouch-jump when you approach the exit. This will help prevent tripping on skulks/OCs/ceiling beams.

BOBDolol

Wow focus onos is AWESOME. No, the onos's main task is NOT killing buildings, its killing marines. Killing buildings is what you do after all the marines are dead, and a focus onos is still pretty good at it. 1 focus gore takes away 3+ bars from an arms lab, which is cool.

ZERG

We have a winnar!

EDIT: OH TWO WINNARS! I missed that last one. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Act_Chill

You wont stick around when 5 guys are shooting you so at best you will kill 2 and run away. Using focus will kill 2 people faster especial with charge. In attacking the base at the end the whole marine team is there at best you can devour one and gore once with some charge if you want to get out alive. If it is a focus gore you get to do more damage. I dont think pheromones, sof, cloaking or focus is that good for onos anyways.