Batch Compiler Problems...

AvitarAvitar Join Date: 2003-09-11 Member: 20760Members
in Mapping Help and Troubleshooting
<div class="IPBDescription">False "Warning: Illegal Brush"...</div> I am using the batch compiler because it compiles my map much faster, howerver I am getting (false???)

<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->Warning: Illegal Brush (edge without opposite face)...<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

error messages.

I am using hammer beta, win2kp/athlon2600xp/512mbDDR2800/GeForce4...

The compile continues with out inncident and the map seems ok... Just worried about the error message.

I exported a .map format, and opened it in hammer since i heard that will do away with invalid brushes; the entire map was still intact though.

anyone else have this problem? Compiles in hammer although slower, dont show this problem.

suggestions pls.
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  • taledentaleden Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15252Members, Constellation
    My guess is you used clip or vertex manip on a brush and accidentally confused Hammer about which edges belong to each of its faces, what the face normals are, etc. The reason reloading from .map might solve this is because some of these errors are auto-corrected during the .rmf to .map conversion (using a best-fit kind of method - it doesn't necessarily figure out what you meant the brush to look like, can lead to mangled brushes, etc), so reloading the .map just incorporates those corrections.

    Does it give you any more info about the offending brush? Like a brush number? If so, you can plug that into Hammer and see exactly which brush it's complaining about, and delete/remake it if necessary.
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  • AvitarAvitar Join Date: 2003-09-11 Member: 20760Members
    It makes sense what you said since I just added clip brushes to eliminate skywalking....


    It gives me different brush numbers each time. This is why I thought i might have caught a bug.

    None of the brushes used vertex manupulation/clipping, although there was a clip brush in the same room on the ceiling.

    After compile, go to brush X,delete brush X, Remake Brush X, Compiling about 10 times it doesnt seem like it is bad brushes more like ones chosen at random <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • taledentaleden Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15252Members, Constellation
    Odd. Which stage is the error occuring in (hlbsp, hlcsg, etc)? Could you post the entire log for that stage?
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  • victor-SDZvictor-SDZ Join Date: 2004-02-09 Member: 26255Members
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> This error is normaly detected by Hammer... alt + p in hammer <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AvitarAvitar Join Date: 2003-09-11 Member: 20760Members
    I removed the clip brushes and no more errors...

    it seemed like this is what was causing the problem. For some reason hammer was getting confused about the brush.

    After deleting it and adding it again i no longer get the error. It could have been the size/position of the brush <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    All i care about is that I dont get this error any longer <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AvitarAvitar Join Date: 2003-09-11 Member: 20760Members
    The log file:

    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->###################################################
    #            Batch Compiler Zoners Spec           #
    ###################################################
    ###################################################
    #  Please report bugs to: ryansgregg@hotmail.com  #
    ###################################################

    Written At: 3/23/2004 5:09:03 PM
    BC Version: 2.0.3.1

    Command line error: input file can't be the same as output file
    Usage: hlfix <mapname>[.rmf] [options]
     -o <outfile>           Output file (default is <mapname>.map or <mapname>.rmf)

     -w <wadfile>           WAD list file (default is wad.txt)
     -r                     Output to RMF file instead of MAP file
     -nt                    Don't tesselate non-planar faces
     -nd                    Don't decompose non-convex solids
     -nu                    Don't unite coplanar faces
     -na                    Don't perform ANY geometry correction
     -v                     Process and output visible objects only
     -e <number>            Epsilon factor for numeric comparisons (default is 1.0)

    hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb  3 2004)
    Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
    Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
    Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
    Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
    -----  BEGIN  hlcsg -----
    Command line: C:\ztools\hlcsg.exe -cliptype simple -wadinclude zhlt.wad -wadincl
    ude halflife.wad -wadinclude liquids.wad -wadinclude ns_postpile.wad -wadinclude
    ns.wad -wadinclude ns2.wad -chart C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.map
    Entering C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.map

    Current hlcsg Settings
    Name                 |  Setting  |  Default
    ---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
    threads               [       1 ] [  Varies ]
    verbose               [     off ] [     off ]
    log                   [      on ] [      on ]
    developer             [       0 ] [       0 ]
    chart                 [      on ] [     off ]
    estimate              [     off ] [     off ]
    max texture memory    [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
    max lighting memory   [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
    priority              [  Normal ] [  Normal ]

    noclip                [     off ] [     off ]
    null texture stripping[      on ] [      on ]
    clipnode economy mode [      on ] [      on ]
    clip hull type        [  simple ] [  legacy ]
    onlyents              [     off ] [     off ]
    wadtextures           [      on ] [      on ]
    skyclip               [      on ] [      on ]
    hullfile              [    None ] [    None ]
    nullfile              [    None ] [    None ]
    min surface area      [   0.500 ] [   0.500 ]
    brush union threshold [   0.000 ] [   0.000 ]

    Using mapfile wad configuration
    Wadinclude list :
    [zhlt.wad]
    [zhlt.wad]
    [halflife.wad]
    [liquids.wad]
    [ns_postpile.wad]
    [ns.wad]
    [ns2.wad]

    4 brushes (totalling 24 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
    CreateBrush:
    10%...20%...Warning: Illegal Brush (edge without opposite face): Entity 0, Brush
    42

    30%...40%...Warning: Illegal Brush (edge without opposite face): Entity 0, Brush
    81

    50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (1.02 seconds)
    SetModelCenters:
    10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (0.02 seconds)
    CSGBrush:
    10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (1.47 seconds)

    Object names  Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness
    ------------  ---------------  ---------------  --------
    models              0/400            0/25600    ( 0.0)
    planes           7160/65535     143200/1310700  (10.9)
    vertexes            0/65535          0/786420   ( 0.0)
    nodes               0/32767          0/786408   ( 0.0)
    texinfos          139/32767       5560/1310680  ( 0.4)
    faces               0/65535          0/1310700  ( 0.0)
    clipnodes           0/32767          0/262136   ( 0.0)
    leaves              0/8192           0/229376   ( 0.0)
    marksurfaces        0/65535          0/131070   ( 0.0)
    surfedges           0/512000         0/2048000  ( 0.0)
    edges               0/256000         0/1024000  ( 0.0)
    texdata          [variable]          0/4194304  ( 0.0)
    lightdata        [variable]          0/6291456  ( 0.0)
    visdata          [variable]          0/2097152  ( 0.0)
    entdata          [variable]          0/524288   ( 0.0)
    0 textures referenced
    === Total BSP file data space used: 148760 bytes ===

    Including Wadfile: \hammer\ns_postpile.wad
    - Contains 15 used textures, 68.18 percent of map (18 textures in wad)
    Including Wadfile: \program files\steam\steamapps\skyceo@aol.com\half-life\halfl
    ife.wad
    - Contains 2 used textures, 9.09 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)
    Including Wadfile: \program files\steam\steamapps\skyceo@aol.com\half-life\nsp\n
    s.wad
    - Contains 5 used textures, 22.73 percent of map (578 textures in wad)

    Texture usage is at 0.73 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
    2.69 seconds elapsed

    -----   END   hlcsg -----



    hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb  3 2004)
    Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
    Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
    Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
    Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
    -----  BEGIN  hlbsp -----
    Command line: C:\ztools\hlbsp.exe -chart C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.map

    Current hlbsp Settings
    Name               |  Setting  |  Default
    -------------------|-----------|-------------------------
    threads             [       1 ] [  Varies ]
    verbose             [     off ] [     off ]
    log                 [      on ] [      on ]
    developer           [       0 ] [       0 ]
    chart               [      on ] [     off ]
    estimate            [     off ] [     off ]
    max texture memory  [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
    priority            [  Normal ] [  Normal ]

    noclip              [     off ] [     off ]
    nofill              [     off ] [     off ]
    null tex. stripping [      on ] [      on ]
    notjunc             [     off ] [     off ]
    subdivide size      [     240 ] [     240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
    max node size       [    1024 ] [    1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)


    BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.prt'
    Warning: === LEAK in hull 3 ===
    Entity light_spot @ (-140, 840, -24)
    Error:
     A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
    (unwanted) outside region.  The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
    indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
    beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
    outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
    probably should not be deleted.  Some complex rotating objects entities need
    their origins outside the map.  To deal with these, just enclose the origin
    brush with a solid world brush

    Leak pointfile generated


    Object names  Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness
    ------------  ---------------  ---------------  --------
    models             50/400         3200/25600    (12.5)
    planes           7160/65535     143200/1310700  (10.9)
    vertexes         7964/65535      95568/786420   (12.2)
    nodes            3282/32767      78768/786408   (10.0)
    texinfos          139/32767       5560/1310680  ( 0.4)
    faces            6075/65535     121500/1310700  ( 9.3)
    clipnodes        6837/32767      54696/262136   (20.9)
    leaves           2261/8192       63308/229376   (27.6)
    marksurfaces     7492/65535      14984/131070   (11.4)
    surfedges       27199/512000    108796/2048000  ( 5.3)
    edges           15008/256000     60032/1024000  ( 5.9)
    texdata          [variable]     762556/4194304  (18.2)
    lightdata        [variable]          0/6291456  ( 0.0)
    visdata          [variable]          0/2097152  ( 0.0)
    entdata          [variable]      23902/524288   ( 4.6)
    22 textures referenced
    === Total BSP file data space used: 1536070 bytes ===
    14.53 seconds elapsed

    -----   END   hlbsp -----



    hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb  3 2004)
    Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
    Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
    Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
    Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
    -----  BEGIN  hlvis -----
    Command line: C:\ztools\hlvis.exe -full -chart C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.map
    >> There was a problem compiling the map.
    >> Check the file C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.log for the cause.

    -----   END   hlvis -----



    hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb  3 2004)
    Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
    Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
    Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
    Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
    -----  BEGIN  hlrad -----
    Command line: C:\ztools\hlrad.exe -extra -sparse -bounce 1 -smooth 50 -chart C:\
    hammer\maps\ns_postpile.map
    >> There was a problem compiling the map.
    >> Check the file C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.log for the cause.

    -----   END   hlrad -----





    BSP Optimizer by XP-Cagey, v1.5 (Feb  3 2004)
    Based on code by Valve Software

    Object names  Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness
    ------------  ---------------  ---------------  --------
    models             50/400         3200/25600    (12.5)
    planes           7160/32767     143200/655340   (21.9)
    vertexes         7964/65535      95568/786420   (12.2)
    nodes            3282/32767      78768/786408   (10.0)
    texinfos          139/32767       5560/1310680  ( 0.4)
    faces            6075/131071    121500/2621420  ( 4.6)
    clipnodes        6837/32767      54696/262136   (20.9)
    leaves           2261/8192       63308/229376   (27.6)
    marksurfaces     7492/65535      14984/131070   (11.4)
    surfedges       27199/512000    108796/2048000  ( 5.3)
    edges           15008/256000     60032/1024000  ( 5.9)
    texdata          [variable]     762556/4194304  (18.2)
    lightdata        [variable]          0/4194304  ( 0.0)
    visdata          [variable]          0/2097152  ( 0.0)
    entdata          [variable]      23902/524288   ( 4.6)
    === Total BSP file data space used: 1536070 bytes ===

    Planes in map: 7160
    Planes actually used: 2536

    Optimized!
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.wic deleted.
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.p0 deleted.
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.p1 deleted.
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.p2 deleted.
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.p3 deleted.
    C:\hammer\maps\ns_postpile.prt deleted.
           1 file(s) copied.
    ns_postpile.bsp copied to C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\skyceo@aol.com\half-l
    ife\nsp\maps
           1 file(s) copied.
    ns_postpile.pts copied to C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\skyceo@aol.com\half-l
    ife\nsp\maps

    Press any key to continue . . .<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
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  • taledentaleden Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15252Members, Constellation
    Glad you got it fixed... now you get to worry about that leak instead. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CageyCagey Ex-Unknown Worlds Programmer Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8829Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    That error is something I added with the new cliptypes -- it means that a brush is missing face information and can't be clipped properly. The most likely cause would be tiny faces being removed by the compiler before I attempt brush expansion--it's almost always related to funky geometry of some sort.
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  • AvitarAvitar Join Date: 2003-09-11 Member: 20760Members
    Hmm I actually seemed to find a way to accidentally reprodce it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    1) I build a new *.map file of my map in hammer and save it.
    2) Close hammer.
    3) Run Batch Compiler.

    Work Around??

    -> Open hammer and save the map as *.rmf <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Not sure why this works.. Maybe i didn't read something.

    It definatly could have something to do with the geometry seeing how i have several corridors & bridges going off a weird angles (which i opted to mostly remove for better r_speeds during testing).
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