Wmds

Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
<div class="IPBDescription">okay so they weren't found now what?</div> Well there was a big discussion on it. but they weren't found. The President finaly got revenge for his dad. (I bet you 1 million dollars that the old bush said to new bush. "Your gonna get that S.O.B. saddam for me or Ill woop you skinny little but when you get outa office"
just a joke....

seriously now though.

Now whats next?
What has Changed?
And how does this realy affect everything?
Was Taking Saddam Out of Power that bad?
(even though the reasions for it are rather shady still)
Whats in store for the US?
And when will HL2 come out?

Comments

  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    There's a topic with the exact same name/subjuct as this on the front page (at time of posting). Come on, try <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66457' target='_blank'>looking</a> a little harder next time.
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    They seem to be discussing why the US attacked Iraq, and about the WMD. im proposing a diffrent question very similar to it.
  • CalldownCalldown Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13478Members, Constellation
    I'll bite. Regardless of who put Saddam there, isn't a good thing that he's out of power? A leader who would *slaughter* his own people isn't what I'd call a leader. If the world isn't a better place now that he's gone, I honestly don't know what it is.

    (Oh, and please don't try and pull the common arguments, like no interference and such. If there was a gang terrorizing your neighborhood, and a rival gang wanted to take out their leader, would you say "no, his people *must* like him". Honestly.)

    -calldown
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    What bothered me most was the fact that Blair (I'm from the UK) used WMD as a reason to go to war, despite the shaky nature of the evidence. Funnily enough, I wouldn't have minded if he said from the get-go that we were going to oust Saddam.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yeah, it's human nature to be bitter that you were lied to about the real reason for the action.

    But I for one am glad to have the madman gone. From here? Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if I crusade didn't continue, even though we're spread so thin as it is...
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-rob6264+Mar 31 2004, 11:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rob6264 @ Mar 31 2004, 11:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, it's human nature to be bitter that you were lied to about the real reason for the action. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But it doesn't make me think that removing Saddam was the real reason. It makes me think that they have an ulterior motive for invading Iraq. Iraq isn't the only country with a tyrant. Why not Zimbabwe, for example? Mugabe needs a real good kick in the nethers.

    What does it say when you cannot trust the people who are supposed to be in charge? We're not talking about little Jimmy nicking an apple and lying about it, we're talking about concealing the reason for going to <i>war</i>.
  • HandmanHandman Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15224Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But it doesn't make me think that removing Saddam was the real reason. It makes me think that they have an ulterior motive for invading Iraq. Iraq isn't the only country with a tyrant. Why not Zimbabwe, for example? Mugabe needs a real good kick in the nethers.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can speculate all you want, but we will most likely never know the real reason. Removing Sadam could very well be the real reason. The US could have used his removal as a message, saying "Stop supporting terrorist, or else". Now was Sadam helping terrorist, well not directly. He was giving money to the families of suicide bombers, and the US was worried about him providing weapons to terrorist. None of the surrounding nations really liked Sadam, he was a perfect target. Look at how quick some of the countries started cracking down on terrorist.

    Whats next? Well hopefull democracy will work in Iraq, but that is a long way off. Iraq will have to continue to deal with terrorist, and after the US leaves it will have to do so on its own. I imagine the war on terror will continue, the US will provide intelligence to governments to help them track down terrorists.

    What has changed? Well bordering countries probably feel safer. The Iraqi people are experiencing new freedoms, their athlete do not have to fear performing bad in this year's olympics. A lot has changed.

    Was Taking Saddam Out of Power that bad? (even though the reasions for it are rather shady still) Taking Sadam out of power was not bad in any way. If they lied about their reasons, that would be bad. Only time will tell if they knowingly used faulty intelligence or not, I will give our leaders the bennifit of the doubt.

    Whats in store for the US? This really depends on the outcome of this years election. If Bush returns for a second term, we can expect a continuation of the speak loudly and carry a big stick mentality. If Kerry is elected, I would imagine that he will be less agressive with his foriegn policies. I for one am for an agressive foriegn policy, but I do not vote for someone base on foriegn policy alone.

    And when will HL2 come out? Never, and I don't care.
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