Gates: Hardware Will Be Free

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">rest of industry says "duh" ?</div>Saw <a href='http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,62867,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7' target='_blank'>this</a> on Wired:

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hardware costs will fall sharply within a decade to the point where widespread computing with speech and handwriting won't be limited by expensive technology, Bill Gates said Monday.

"Ten years out, in terms of actual hardware costs you can almost think of hardware as being free -- I'm not saying it will be absolutely free -- but in terms of the power of the servers, the power of the network will not be a limiting factor," Microsoft's chairman said.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Really this one is kind of a no brainer. Look at the cost of a computer today against one 10 years ago. $500 vs $2,000. And in a broader scale, think of how expensive the old corporate mainframes used to cost. They're still quite expensive, but nowhere near what they were. Its always been the software that was the most expensive part of the system. :P

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  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2004
    Hey, it could be worse - he could claim the entire industry is going to be based upon voice and other sensory-input titles in a few years. *cough*Sony*cough* Better the obvious than the stupid. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    On another note, does this mean I should hold out on my next system upgrade for the next decade?
  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Mar 31 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Mar 31 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey, it could be worse - he could claim the entire industry is going to be based upon voice and other sensory-input titles in a few years. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wouldn't mind though. I'm eagerly waiting for the day when humans have sockets in their temples and they just plug in to the computer <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Meh, the eternal daydreamer = me.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Mar 31 2004, 01:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Mar 31 2004, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On another note, does this mean I should hold out on my next system upgrade for the next decade? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Before: flyers
    then: diskettes
    presently: CD's and spam
    future: free laptops (or PDA's) with a RO memory so you can see the ad's right away


    I'm sure that's how it's going to happen
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    Remember tho, this is also the man that cant imagine anyone needing more than 640K RAM <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    No matter how good the hardware gets, software guys will make full use of em and ask for seconds.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Comparatively hardware already is dirt cheap. I mean hell, $500 for a very fast pretty high quality computer is a damned good price. Sure there's no 3D card, but the average consumer doesn't need one. Hardware prices continue to drop, so its only a matter of time before you'll be getting a brand new PC for like $200.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Cheap mobo: 30 bucks
    Cheap processor: 30 bucks (Duron 1.2)
    Some slightly sufficient amount of ram: 40 bucks
    Cheap HDD: probably around 30 bucks for a small 20 gig one if you find one.
    Cheap case (alim included): 25ish bucks
    Mouse + keyboard: 15-20 bucks
    CD-RW/DVD combo: $40

    -> $210. Needs a screen and some solution to the graphic card (integrated chipset or cheap gfx, I couldn't decide on the cheaper one)
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    edited March 2004
    Hm. Great now we get illiterate 12 year olds playing our games. *sigh* all in all though it does make me happy. No more saving up to buy a average PC.


    Edit: Typos cuz im typing with my toes
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-cshank4+Mar 31 2004, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cshank4 @ Mar 31 2004, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hm. Great now we get illiterate 12 year olds playing our games. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What, and right now we only have 45 year old English Majors playing CS and screaming "I POWNED JOOO SMACKTARD" into the mic with a voice high enough to shatter glass?
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    English major....45... high voice? I missed something here. These 3 all seem at odds, not necessarily mutually exclusive, just at odds.
  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Mar 31 2004, 02:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Mar 31 2004, 02:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> English major....45... high voice? I missed something here. These 3 all seem at odds, not necessarily mutually exclusive, just at odds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cshank says that now (as opposed to already) we will have illiterate 12 year olds playing games. Tycho makes fun of him.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    hardware is free, i'm just waiting on ati_radeon_9800_pro_aiw_FLT.iso to finish downloading ... oh wait, wrong free ^^

    <span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>for those who do not understand the bleeding obvious, you cannot pirate hardware making the above post nonfactual while attempting to draw humor from p2p software piracy, therefore the above text should not be taken seriously</span>
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    d00d, I just w4r3z3d m3h an ALIANWERE!!!!11!!! lololz <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I think the more exciting thing (over being able to build a new computer every other week) is what this means for computerization in other areas. Things that were too expensive or unreasonable before become possible, and I think that will open up some impressive technology all over the place.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Anyone who plays shadowrun: Yey we get a Matrix! And Cyberdecks! ... And BTL Chips.. heh
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    I await the day when I can cruise down to the local gas station and get a 12 pack of beer and a brand new computer, and maybe another one so I won't have to go back later and get it if this one breaks....
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    Just to add to the hardware joke, I was talking to a guy about his XBox for some reason or another, and we were talking about an unevitable Xbox2, he started talking about that he won't have to buy another one because they allow you to download new hardware and he started arguing with me. Eh, I kid you not... man that guy was annoying.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Download new hardware... Does that mean Microsoft is making Nanobots to? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    *presses button and a shiny new Raedon Card comes out of a hole in the wall* More Cards! *clap clap*
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    Not too long ago I saw a story (that I'm <i>way</i> too lazy to look up) that outlined the differences between software profits and hardware profits. Hardware needs materials that cost money and except for the occasional CD and some packaging, software doesn't really cost anything beyond the development period. The profits for MS were rediculous compared to hard drive companies that were struggling to break even.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited April 2004
    Free (as in love) hardware is nice and all, but I'd much rather have Free (as in beer) hardware. It'd be really great for non-commercial OSs to have access to that much hardware information, it would really help in driver development.

    EDIT: I'm probably using the Free (as in beer) term incorrectly... what I mean is that any information relating to the hardware would be Free (as in beer).
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Bill Gates, I give you:


    <img src='http://www.imageshack.us/img2/4492/duhaward1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    I'm still waiting for the apocalypse...because when it comes the modern day computer powered toasters will be useless, and no one will have toast!!!


    ...Among other, possibly more important, things (who here knows how to work a loom or a pnuematic press?).


    Or just a day like Fallout, where we got computerized stuff, but it doesn't correlate well and is only applicable in specific areas that don't really help with day to day basic needs.
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