New Guitar

JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
Alright, don't think I can type too much, my fingers are pretty sore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anyway, got myself a Fender acoustic today, very pretty piece of equp.

Anyway, aside from future plans of getting actual lessons, anyone have any tips? Know of any online guides? Have any cake?

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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    unfortunately, since the only thing i can do with a musical Instrument is sell it, akll i can do is wish you the best of luck.


    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    if yer fingers are sore, that means you're dedicated, and that's really all you need :>
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    They'll toughen up after a while. Take me for example ( <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). I've been working in a kitchen for just under two years and my tolerance to heat at the hands has gone up. It is also a lot more resistant to certain chemicals.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    play until they blister or bleed, then wait til they heal and do it again. Eventually the skin on your fingers will get thick enough that playing won't hurt at all. It will also improve the sound of your playing because hard finger pads make the application of force more precise and the sound more resonant.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Apr 2 2004, 03:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Apr 2 2004, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->play until they blister or bleed, then wait til they heal and do it again.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Blister or bleed? Wow, that's a whole lotta hard playin'. I'd just play until my fingertips were too sore to put any significant pressure on the strings, then I'd stop playing altogether for a couple of days.

    After maybe two weeks, there would be no pain and no horrible rattling sound in the strings, but I'd still suck at guitar. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    practice practice practice

    if you get good enough maybe you can join a clan... er band <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    'learn' to read tab.
    its really easy compared to normal sheet music.

    (although I still cant do it to speed).

    basically the line is the string, the number is the fret! (if you couldnt work that out already, otherwise sorry for being patronising).

    theres loads of free tab on the net, pick a song you like and get practising!
    try to work out a pattern of finger movement which requires the least hand movement and overall effort.

    tab is probably muuch better for training you up than slogging out powerchords (although this has its place)..

    if you dont know, powerchords are much easier to play when the guitar is in drop D tuning.
    really easy to tune to drop D, just drop the bottom string (the thickest - some people have fuunny notions of 'bottom string') down 2 semitones so that its the same note as the 3rd thickest string (but one octave down).
    now put your finger across the bottom three strings on the same fret = instant power chord, ,great if your into metal style playing.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    I've tried some tabs, but some of them are really off target, like they say pick this string on this certain fret, or do a powerchord here, but they don't really fit in this song. Does this mean I am doing something wrong? Some of the guides are kind of wacked too.
  • Domo-KunDomo-Kun Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27410Members
    edited April 2004
    tab is easy to read. its not hard
    -------------------e
    -------------------b
    -------------------g
    -------------------d
    -------------------a
    -------------------e
    there is your basic tab outline
    starting form the thickest string on your guitar it goes EADGBE
    now go to <a href='http://www.thetabworld.com/' target='_blank'>here for tab</a>
    learn rinse repeat. learn blues for the rythem feeling. learn rock for coodernation(sp?)
    an jazz for skill. but thats my opinion. or you can just learn box chords an play punk all night. ok bye
    EDIT: oh ya BUY A METRONOME(sp?) learn timing, if not any song you play will sound crappy. if you wanna learn a song listien to it first, then try to play it alon, then play it while listining. also learn how to read sheet music, itll help you. then youll know timing. and what those cute littl dots with flags mean, like quater notes, eight notes, eighth rests, quarter rests, dottd half note, blah blah. its fun. dont get discouraged. be patient, i sucked **** first tiem i played, but then again i play bass, an bass isnt that hard.....unless you try to play Bach, or that stewart hampton guy... whatever. flea rules.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Domo-Kun!+Apr 2 2004, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Domo-Kun! @ Apr 2 2004, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> now go to <a href='http://www.thetabworld.com/' target='_blank'>here for tab</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Best website I've found so far for getting guitar tab is <a href='http://www.guitartabs.cc' target='_blank'>this one</a>. Loads of guitar tab, easy to search, and the links always work.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    edited April 2004
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    edited April 2004
    Thanks all. Btw, my choice of things to buy was either a guitar or new video card <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    anyhoo, after I while when I was messing around I noticed how much guitar music I actually listen to(mainly Dashboard Confessional and such).
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I found <a href='http://www.cyberfret.com' target='_blank'>Cyberfret</a> to be a useful resource when I started out with guitar. Teaches you basics, chords, general techniques and such, and I believe they have a messageboard and weekly lessons and things like that. ^^

    Best of luck to you learning!

    *hugs her own beloved ESP*
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Give me my sweater back or I'll play the guitar! ;)
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    don't learn to read tabs! learn how to read real music first. tabs come later.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Windelkron+Apr 3 2004, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Apr 3 2004, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> don't learn to read tabs! learn how to read real music first. tabs come later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why? What's wrong with learning to read guitar tab?

    - it's a whole lot easier to <i>find</i> guitar tab
    - guitar tab is (almost always) free
    - it's hard to screw up a song from a tab (unless it's incorrect, of course)
    - it takes, oh, five minutes to learn how to read guitar tab

    Besides, reading "real" music isn't even necessary. My brother is damn good with a guitar, but he can't read a single note of "real" music. And IIRC, numerous label musicians can't read sheet music either.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <a href='http://www.fender.com/products/show.php?partno=0951200021' target='_blank'>http://www.fender.com/products/show.php?partno=0951200021</a>

    That's the guitar I got, btw. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    You don't need your finger to blister or bleed to get some calus. I've got some calus on my right thumb because of console gaming, and I've never blistered or bleed. I don't know if you'd get calus any quicker either.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    I just got a new air guitar... thinking about starting a 'air band... anyone with me?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Apr 3 2004, 06:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Apr 3 2004, 06:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just got a new air guitar... thinking about starting a 'air band... anyone with me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sure! I'll be the Air DJ. You know, all these cool bands now have DJ's. That's a nice piece of work Yoshi.
  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Apr 3 2004, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Apr 3 2004, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Apr 3 2004, 06:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Apr 3 2004, 06:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just got a new air guitar... thinking about starting a 'air band... anyone with me? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sure! I'll be the Air DJ. You know, all these cool bands now have DJ's. That's a nice piece of work Yoshi. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...er... can I be the air vocalist? heh?

    Anyway, on-topic:

    1. Sweet 'tar.
    2. Don't know what kind of music you like really but I'd suggest the tabs:

    Too Fast for Love by Mtley Crue
    Heart Shaped Box by Nirvana

    Those are pretty easy tabs, and while Too Fast for Love wasn't originally played on an acoustic it sounds cool to me.

    Do you have nylon or steel strings BTW?

    Anyway, nice guitar, I've been learning through a CD-Rom tutor for the past few months, it's pretty damned hard but I'm getting better.

    ~ DarkATi
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sycophant+Apr 3 2004, 04:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sycophant @ Apr 3 2004, 04:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Windelkron+Apr 3 2004, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Apr 3 2004, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> don't learn to read tabs!  learn how to read real music first.  tabs come later. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why? What's wrong with learning to read guitar tab?

    - it's a whole lot easier to <i>find</i> guitar tab
    - guitar tab is (almost always) free
    - it's hard to screw up a song from a tab (unless it's incorrect, of course)
    - it takes, oh, five minutes to learn how to read guitar tab

    Besides, reading "real" music isn't even necessary. My brother is damn good with a guitar, but he can't read a single note of "real" music. And IIRC, numerous label musicians can't read sheet music either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    because for instrumentalists (like me), it's fking impossible to get the guitarist to play an "A major" chord or something. Or maybe "this is a G# not G." I hate when the guitarist goes, "uhhh, which fret is that?" or takes a minute to find the right note. And while hes finding the right note he gets ADD and is like "omg listen to this!" and then later on we have a G# against a G natural. And it sounds bad.
  • Domo-KunDomo-Kun Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27410Members
    edited April 2004
    umm actually if you where a good musician you would say, hey let me teach you this. not i am better then you cause youo cant read sheet music. plus i never had anyone say oh go from a minor, then b, then d minor. usualy they just say this song is in A. or this song is dropped D played in F. plus its funny when someone says play this F# an you say no i wanna play it G flat. muh ahahahaha. if anyone takes that seriously......point to yourself and say "i'm stupid"
    EDIT: oh ya i forgot.....FLEA from the Red Hot Chili Peppers cant read music for ****, an hes a bad ****, Hendrix couldnt read music either....cough cough....
    P.S. after you get alot better buy a Takamine(sp?) or an Ibanez acoustic. learn blues since its an acoustic, go outside an play, its fun.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    yeah, dont get me wrong, reading sheet style music has its place in higher learning of music.
    I just think tab is the fastest way to teach yourself, if your starting from scratch.

    tab can teach melodies and chord progressions, its all you need to get going!
    if you want to take things into the songwriting area, I think a good background in playing by ear/ general musicality will help you out more than reading sheet music anyday!

    (plus sheet music is so damn annoying, ,what a stupid concept to be honest, same symbols just changed by height. Its really not user friendly, unlike tab.. ah numbers!!! now your talking!)
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Melatonin+Apr 3 2004, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Melatonin @ Apr 3 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (plus sheet music is so damn annoying, ,what a stupid concept to be honest, same symbols just changed by height. Its really not user friendly, unlike tab..  ah numbers!!!  now your talking!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe, but only a guitarist will be able to read tabs. so if you're playing with anybody else, ie a trumpet, sax, trombone, keyboard, or (classical) vocalist, you won't be able to read from the same music.

    also, knowing how to read from sheet music implies that you know that, for example, the third fret on the second string is a C natural. (A + 3 half steps)
    if you just learn tabs, that note will forever be "second string, third fret," something that non-guitarists will never understand.
  • KazeKaze Join Date: 2003-09-01 Member: 20447Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Apr 2 2004, 04:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Apr 2 2004, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alright, don't think I can type too much, my fingers are pretty sore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Anyway, got myself a Fender acoustic today, very pretty piece of equp.

    Anyway, aside from future plans of getting actual lessons, anyone have any tips? Know of any online guides? Have any cake? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wish i was as spontaneous and/or rich as you
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Nice guitar, but <i>please</i> stop listening to Dashboard.

    It makes my ears bleed.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-kida+Apr 3 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kida @ Apr 3 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> seconded <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dashboard is good. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Just my opinion of course.

    ~ DarkATi
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