<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And re: the wall of blood/grab the reins combo, its auto-lose against any sort of burn. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hence my burn stuff, too... Shocks, Hammers, Pyrite Spellbomb...
And, if they do get me down... Pulse of the Forge.
Trust me, it works.
...ah, good 'ol Eater of Days... there was a cool deck my friend and I were devising, but I can't remember.
A funny thing to do is have planar guides against that, each time it comes out, they have to wait 2 turns since all "into play" abilities happen when planar finishes. Fun to toy with people.
Ah, yes, Crucible of the Worlds will be the next big thing. Lots of decks will attempt to encorporate them into it.
well i suppose if you played that card against a black deck then it would be useless plus I am not sure artifact creatures are counted (actually I think they are since they are creatures)
well his deck has cards from all types of sets and years, so if i get one card not from the last sets i think its fair <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (i just started and only have myrodin, dark steel, and from drafting i have a few legions, onslought and have like 4 cards from a set called, i think its, Ice Age)
<!--QuoteBegin-Xyth+Apr 7 2004, 12:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xyth @ Apr 7 2004, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have 2 decks right now, 1 being my sliver deck(which is under construction but still wins alot), and 2 being my oh so lovely black deck that people hate me for.
My black deck specializes in killing then reviving other players big creatures, so as you can imagine I've got 4 terrors, 2 dark banishings, 4 animate dead, and A vile requiem (this sucker is a monster in long games.) <img src='http://www.essentialmagicimages.com/31/5690.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Also I have a bunch of land kills mixed in to stop them from putting out big creatures in mid game. And then as my troops I have lots of creatures that just never die, ex: fog of knats, drudgies, unworthy deads, etc. Not to mention a healthy dose of shades. And the great thinga bout this deck is the most exspensive card in it is like 4>5 mana, so I barely ever have to draw any mana.
And about slivers: try this combo out, toxin sliver + Talon sliver. After you get those 2 out, put out a crystalline sliver, and maybe a winged sliver. Then watch the game end. Or say a crystal cavern, tap 5 colorless mana, get 1 of each color, can you say drop every card in your deck onto the table? Or perhaps go with a queen and coat of arms, did sombody say 20 20/20 creatures? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhm... only 20/20? Thats weak. I had a sliver deack, which was tournament legal (well... I made it on Apprentice... dont buy cards IRL anymore), that could create an infinite amount of Infinite/Infinite creatures whilst giving me infinite life.
<!--QuoteBegin-Shadowlinex+Apr 8 2004, 02:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shadowlinex @ Apr 8 2004, 02:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i agree with Otto 20/20 is over rated based on the mana cost or turns it takes to make.
Like someone said Eater of days + stifle is a great combo! Levler + Stifle is great too!
or my fav. good old; Levler + Shared fate <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wow, thats some awsome combos
<!--QuoteBegin-Shadowlinex+Apr 8 2004, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shadowlinex @ Apr 8 2004, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh almost forgot another fun combo =]
Leveler + Spellbinder imprinted with Savage Beating + Whispersilk Cloak =] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> bah i hate wispersilk cloak, combine it with banshees blade or any creature that gets stronger as it deals dmg, ouch
my friend put both on a slith predator, it got strong fast
/edit hmmmm, ill have to try to find a way to use that in my elf deck...(donate)
i dont wanta buy birds of paradise, anything cheaper?
/EDIT
my main deck currently
its an elf deck and not real good, i dont have many of the same cards because i got most of mine from drafting and a few prebuilt decks, its anti artifact.
plz give me advice on what to change
elfs 2 Tel-Jilad Archers 2 Tel-Jilad Chosen 4 Timberwatch elfs (gotta love em) 2 defiant elf (dont laugh, you will regret it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) 4 treetop elf 2 elvish pioneer 1 wood elves 2 elvish scrapper 1 tribal force mage 1 elvish soultiller
non elf 1 elvish champion 1 seedborn muse 4 wirewood symbiote ---------------------------------- Spells 1 one with nature 2 sprouting vines 1 deconstruct 2 break asunder 2 creeping mold 1 naturalize ---------------------- Creature pump up spells 1 predator strike 1 dragon fangs 1 alpha status 2 wirewood pride
if you have wirewood Channelers in your elf deck then that all you need to play donate, i wouldn't put any kind of blue creature in a elf deck. trying some mean blue spells you wish to put in. counter spells, bouncing cards (like boomrange), or some other things but no blue creatures.
<!--QuoteBegin-Shadowlinex+Apr 8 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shadowlinex @ Apr 8 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you have wirewood Channelers in your elf deck then that all you need to play donate, i wouldn't put any kind of blue creature in a elf deck. trying some mean blue spells you wish to put in. counter spells, bouncing cards (like boomrange), or some other things but no blue creatures. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i was told wirewood chanellers only made colorless mana
u look at me deck? any suggestions? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> hopefully
So i can stop posting ideas after each post, dirty can you post your elf deck your running so i can look it over. Tell me what you would like it to do manily what the win conditions are.
was on previous post as an edit <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
my main deck currently
its an elf deck and not real good, i dont have many of the same cards because i got most of mine from drafting and a few prebuilt decks, its anti artifact.
plz give me advice on what to change
elfs 2 Tel-Jilad Archers 2 Tel-Jilad Chosen 4 Timberwatch elfs (gotta love em) 2 defiant elf (dont laugh, you will regret it ) 4 treetop elf 2 elvish pioneer 1 wood elves 2 elvish scrapper 1 tribal force mage 1 elvish soultiller
non elf 1 elvish champion 1 seedborn muse 4 wirewood symbiote ---------------------------------- Spells 1 one with nature 2 sprouting vines 1 deconstruct 2 break asunder 2 creeping mold 1 naturalize ---------------------- Creature pump up spells 1 predator strike 1 dragon fangs 1 alpha status 2 wirewood pride
Only problem with Wellwisher and Channeler is that, if your opponent steals them, you are in deep. That's actually how I beat my friends elf deck that had gone undefeated for awhile, I terrored and animated his wellwisher (2 actually) and his channeler and proceded to pump up my shades, it was a sad day for him.
ok dirty heres what i came up with enjoy... if you don't know a card use;
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Creatures (28) ====== 4 wellwisher 4 timberwatch 2 wirewood channelers 4 treetop scout (good with any pump spell for added damage) 4 wirewood elf 2 tel-jilad archers 4 elven warrior 4 Wirewood herald (also good with pumps if people know what it can do =])
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Oh, and my mistform deck would have a FIELD DAY with any mono-creature deck. It's just not nice the things you can do to monocreature decks with Mistform.
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Hence my burn stuff, too...
Shocks, Hammers, Pyrite Spellbomb...
And, if they do get me down... Pulse of the Forge.
Trust me, it works.
...ah, good 'ol Eater of Days... there was a cool deck my friend and I were devising, but I can't remember.
A funny thing to do is have planar guides against that, each time it comes out, they have to wait 2 turns since all "into play" abilities happen when planar finishes. Fun to toy with people.
Ah, yes, Crucible of the Worlds will be the next big thing. Lots of decks will attempt to encorporate them into it.
Oh, and get ready for UNHINGED!!!!
Oh.....my.......god......
well i suppose if you played that card against a black deck then it would be useless plus I am not sure artifact creatures are counted (actually I think they are since they are creatures)
<img src='http://www.wizards.com/sideboard/images/cards/invasion/soul_burn.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
His black deck pwns mucho. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
UNHINGED is going ot be such a good joke =]
My black deck specializes in killing then reviving other players big creatures, so as you can imagine I've got 4 terrors, 2 dark banishings, 4 animate dead, and A vile requiem (this sucker is a monster in long games.)
<img src='http://www.essentialmagicimages.com/31/5690.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Also I have a bunch of land kills mixed in to stop them from putting out big creatures in mid game.
And then as my troops I have lots of creatures that just never die, ex: fog of knats, drudgies, unworthy deads, etc. Not to mention a healthy dose of shades.
And the great thinga bout this deck is the most exspensive card in it is like 4>5 mana, so I barely ever have to draw any mana.
And about slivers: try this combo out, toxin sliver + Talon sliver. After you get those 2 out, put out a crystalline sliver, and maybe a winged sliver. Then watch the game end.
Or say a crystal cavern, tap 5 colorless mana, get 1 of each color, can you say drop every card in your deck onto the table? Or perhaps go with a queen and coat of arms, did sombody say 20 20/20 creatures? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Uhm... only 20/20? Thats weak. I had a sliver deack, which was tournament legal (well... I made it on Apprentice... dont buy cards IRL anymore), that could create an infinite amount of Infinite/Infinite creatures whilst giving me infinite life.
Like someone said
Eater of days + stifle is a great combo!
Levler + Stifle is great too!
or my fav. good old;
Levler + Shared fate
Like someone said
Eater of days + stifle is a great combo!
Levler + Stifle is great too!
or my fav. good old;
Levler + Shared fate <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow, thats some awsome combos
Leveler + Spellbinder imprinted with Savage Beating + Whispersilk Cloak =]
=]
HERE IT IS!!
Its called Donate lol =]
<img src='http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/donate.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Leveler + Spellbinder imprinted with Savage Beating + Whispersilk Cloak =] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
bah i hate wispersilk cloak, combine it with banshees blade or any creature that gets stronger as it deals dmg, ouch
my friend put both on a slith predator, it got strong fast
/edit
hmmmm, ill have to try to find a way to use that in my elf deck...(donate)
i dont wanta buy birds of paradise, anything cheaper?
/EDIT
my main deck currently
its an elf deck and not real good, i dont have many of the same cards because i got most of mine from drafting and a few prebuilt decks, its anti artifact.
plz give me advice on what to change
elfs
2 Tel-Jilad Archers
2 Tel-Jilad Chosen
4 Timberwatch elfs (gotta love em)
2 defiant elf (dont laugh, you will regret it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
4 treetop elf
2 elvish pioneer
1 wood elves
2 elvish scrapper
1 tribal force mage
1 elvish soultiller
non elf
1 elvish champion
1 seedborn muse
4 wirewood symbiote
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Spells
1 one with nature
2 sprouting vines
1 deconstruct
2 break asunder
2 creeping mold
1 naturalize
----------------------
Creature pump up spells
1 predator strike
1 dragon fangs
1 alpha status
2 wirewood pride
i was told wirewood chanellers only made colorless mana
<img src='http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/wirewood_channeler.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
sweet
u look at me deck? any suggestions? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> hopefully
my main deck currently
its an elf deck and not real good, i dont have many of the same cards because i got most of mine from drafting and a few prebuilt decks, its anti artifact.
plz give me advice on what to change
elfs
2 Tel-Jilad Archers
2 Tel-Jilad Chosen
4 Timberwatch elfs (gotta love em)
2 defiant elf (dont laugh, you will regret it )
4 treetop elf
2 elvish pioneer
1 wood elves
2 elvish scrapper
1 tribal force mage
1 elvish soultiller
non elf
1 elvish champion
1 seedborn muse
4 wirewood symbiote
----------------------------------
Spells
1 one with nature
2 sprouting vines
1 deconstruct
2 break asunder
2 creeping mold
1 naturalize
----------------------
Creature pump up spells
1 predator strike
1 dragon fangs
1 alpha status
2 wirewood pride
found two already!
get:
4 Taunting elf
<img src='http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/taunting_elf.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
4 Wellwisher
<img src='http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/wellwisher.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
look back here later to see further advise......
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findmagiccards.com
Creatures (28)
======
4 wellwisher
4 timberwatch
2 wirewood channelers
4 treetop scout (good with any pump spell for added damage)
4 wirewood elf
2 tel-jilad archers
4 elven warrior
4 Wirewood herald (also good with pumps if people know what it can do =])
Spells (10)
====
4 tribal unity
4 Naturalize
2 wirewood pride
Enchants (2)
======
2 Alpha Statues (put on taunting elf for a creature masher)
Lands (20)
====
20 forests
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Total cards: 60
your welcome =] kinda imatation of my elf deck!
HAVE FUN!!!