A Noob/56k *please Don't Flame Me* Question

TriforceTriforce Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27925Members
edited April 2004 in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">56K help</div> Im sorry to bother you if your reading this but im in a bit of a dilema. Im very sorry if this question's answer was restated somewhere else and i couldnt find it. Im in the middle of a crisis... a 56K crisis. Somehow, no matter what game i join, my ping sky-rockets to 1000+ ping. I have no idea if this game is 56K friendly or not and this is just my own problem. Please help me, this game looks really great and i want to try it out... I just dont understand why my ping is so high. I heard you have to tweak some commands or something but i just dont no what to do at all. Thank you for sparing your time by reading my plea.

If this helps.. my system is made up of:
256 RAM
Pentium4
56K modem
Gateway VX720 on NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 (32-Bit Vid-Card)
I currently use Graphics Mode D3D, Steam, and im using 3.0 Beta for NS
Please refrain from flaming me if i did a stupid, common, easily fixed mistake... i just want to have a good time and play this mod...

Comments

  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    It's possible your rate is set incorrectly. To change that:

    1) Open Steam
    2) Click settings
    3) Go to the 'internet' tab
    4) Select modem 56K

    [EDIT] Also, it's most likely not related to your ping, but NS tends to run much better in OpenGL mode.
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    Yo chill a bit dude MOST of the NS players are pretty decent people.

    Firstly you might wana try running NS is OpenGL mode, I find it better then D3D.
    However that wont sort your ping problem.

    Have you played online games before on your setup, if so is your ping ok on those games?
  • TriforceTriforce Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27925Members
    Haha.. sory about the flaming thing.. i just have a miserable past... anyways well if your talking about other mods like TFC and Counter-Strike, my ping is around 200 - 300 , its strange though because when i connect to game via steam, it displays latency from 200 - 300, but when i begin to play my ping just rises to 1000 - 2000 Ping...
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    Have you tried doing what Dragon Mech said?

    Erm that sounds real wierd tho,

    I only asked to see if it was a modem/line problem, but if you get a stable ping on other mods its obviously something NS related.

    You could try messin with your rates.

    in console try something like

    turn net graph on - net_graph 3

    rate 4000
    cl_rate 4000
    cl_updaterate 15
    cl_cmdrate 15

    and see if it helps

    rate = amount of data transfered to and from server, so 4000 is about 4kb/s I think

    the other 2 is the number of times the server updates you position per second, so the more the better, but obviously on a 56k you cant have these too high.

    Anywayz try these settings and keep an eye on the net_graph, it gives you a good indication of whats happening with your connection.

    Dont forget OpenGL to <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TriforceTriforce Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27925Members
    hmn ok ill try what you said, the network indication in Steam and the OpenGl didnt solve the ping problem, ill report back in a while to see if theres a change in my ping.. but uhm.... wheres the netgraph? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    you just type net_graph 3 in your console
  • TriforceTriforce Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27925Members
    hmn... my ping is still unstable.... looks like ill be begging my mom to help me afford a DSL modem or something.... do other 56Kers experience something like this? im just wondering, what are 56Ker's average pings?
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    In your console type:

    rate 2500
    cl_cmdrate 30
    cl_updaterate 20


    That should make a difference. I'm a 56ker and my ping is usually 300-400 and I live in a small town with bad phone lines. Ill send you my config file if what I said above dosn't work.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    turn on net_graph 3, then tell us your choke and loss.

    Make sure you have steam set to work with 56K (explained earlier)

    Turn off QOS pkt schedular (start--> Settings--> Controll panel --> Network settings --> Your network connection trhen find and disable QOS pkt sched)

    Make sure you set all games to NOT auto update
    Steps:
    Open Steam
    Go to the games Window
    RClick on each game and go to properties
    Tell it to not auto update.

    when ever you play the game you will have to re do this.
  • TriforceTriforce Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27925Members
    edited April 2004
    haha thank you thansal. I KNEW Steam had something to do with it, whenever it was on, it always lagged me somehow, but i couldnt do anything about it since i didnt no it autoupdates games... thanks a lot now i may be able to play Ns peacefully!
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