Is The Origional Ns Abandoned?

corpsman · April 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Is the origional NS abandoned?</div> I have seen some new beta posts on the main page, but i couldnt find any information telling me if there are any changes to the origional NS. I know alot of people probably like NS: Combat, but i dont care much for the idea of the whole thing and i was wondering if updating to the newer betas would actually change anything with the real origional NS? I like aliens fighting marines, new maps, new weapons, that kind of stuff!!

Anyways, id like to upgrade of course, so i can play new maps and stuff, but if dont want to play the new "combat" gametype, is there any other reason to bother upgrading? Does the upgrade offer anything to regular NS players?

0verpowering · April 2004

You need to upgrade anyways to the latest beta if you want to play normal NS maps anyways. While people do like combat (some people), as far as i know the NS teams first priority is always going to be normal NS.

corpsman · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0verpowering @ Apr 17 2004, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You need to upgrade anyways to the latest beta if you want to play normal NS maps anyways. While people do like combat (some people), as far as i know the NS teams first priority is always going to be normal NS.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
No actually i dont have to upgrade. I have been playing NS 1.2 for quite a while, even just this morning and i didnt upgrade to any betas, or anything. Your post doesnt really make any sense at all to me-

Let me reword the question.... If i were to upgrade to NS beta version 3, would there be any changes at all to the regular version to Natural Selection, like new weapons, new models, skins, maps. that sort of thing. Or do all the updates and upgrades to the game have to do with "combat"?

Lucky · April 2004

Every single major version change so far brought a hefty number of balance changes to the natural selection. Also, in 2.xx marines we got electification for turret factories and resourse towers, and in beta3 catalyst packs and hand grenades became available. Aliens had a lot of added/removed/modified abilities (such as cloaking in 2.xx and focus in beta3), and there were several major changes to all maps when moving to beta3.

You really should dig up the changelog and consult it for more details. But generally combat is just an add-on that came with beta3, most of the version upgrades feature only balance changes/bug fixes.

Also what version is 1.2? Wasn't last 1.xx 1.04?

wascally_wabbit · April 2004

I think he means 2.01

Yes, there are a lot of changes from 2.01 to 3.0b3.

Lerk flight has been completely re-done, bite has been added again, lots of map updates, hitbox bugs have been fixed, onos now costs 75 res, focus has been added in replace of pheremones... The list goes on and on =)

NS is still being updated as well as CO, and changes are being made to both.

7Bistromath · April 2004

Why didn't you just read the changelog, corpseman?

Anyway yes, NS Classic is much changed in 3.0b3. For better or worse is someting I can't really tell you, because I don't know which I like more myself. I know I'm definitely playing Lerk alot more than I used to. The new flight model is so boss, and the way it works with bite seems so much more useful than spikes were for everything but needling down marine outposts, which I don't think Lerks were suppsoed to be for anyway. Also, the reduced Onos cost gives habitual basebuilders like myself a chance to get in the endgame.

Edit: Forgot focus. I never use it, but some people are feckin' SCARY with it.

On the marine side, hand grenades are fairly useful, though slightly underpowered, I think. Catalyst packs are something I don't have much experience with, because they aren't used much. The building area limits aren't nearly as restrictive to compact base-building as everyone was worried they would be, and electrification's range has been upped a bit to partially compensate.

corpsman · April 2004

WOW That sounds like alot of changes! Im gonna download the new beta 4 at the end of the month now. And thanks for the information. Thats really ALOT of changes. I cant wait to play it now!!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' />

0verpowering · April 2004

i meant you have to upgrade as in since almost nobody plays 2.01 anymore, you basically have to get the latest NS to play with anyone.

corpsman · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0verpowering @ Apr 17 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i meant you have to upgrade as in since almost nobody plays 2.01 anymore, you basically have to get the latest NS to play with anyone.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Actually alot of people still play the non-steam version of NS. I still like it. And the game is still fun... I just didnt want to install Steam unless it was really justified.

Thrillhouse · April 2004

It's best to just upgrade to 3.0 betas. 2.01 on WON is overly populated by 11-13 year old kids who dish out their usual insaults and about 1 out of 3 people use aimbots. Plus there is a serious lacking in good players (IE, commanders building turrets around RTs, no one gorging etc.)

corpsman · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thrillhouse @ Apr 18 2004, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It's best to just upgrade to 3.0 betas. 2.01 on WON is overly populated by 11-13 year old kids who dish out their usual insaults and about 1 out of 3 people use aimbots. Plus there is a serious lacking in good players (IE, commanders building turrets around RTs, no one gorging etc.)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
While i am happy with the game as a whole, i have never experienced lag until i installed Steam and played through it... y connection is as fast as the area can allow. And i live with a bunch of old people so i am like the only one in the neighborhood who uses highspeed modem so i have never had slow speed, even during the daytime. Why does playing through Steam lag my connection so bad. CS never lags either, not until i played it through Steam. I always get connection errors and eventually have to quit Steam completely in order to rejoin a game. Any ideas? My settings are all correct and i have checked everything else i could think of..... I feel lost! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

corpsman · April 2004

Actually, just to be clear on it also... What happends is i can join a game just fine and it always runs good for about 10-15 minutes, then all of the sudden BAM! My connection error is on the top right of my screen and i have to quit out. Same problem every time too-

Swiftspear · April 2004

what kind of PC do you have? steam uses up more ram and PC resourses then WON HL used too, so if you were used to playing with back ground programs open your probably gonna have to shut them down to play. Possible causes of "connection problems" include getting your connection from an unreliable ISP (internet service provider, there are lots of nasty things they can do to screw you, such as switching your IP adress around and installing faulty cableing), faulty cableing, which can recept radio signals and give you a caotic connection (highly applicable to DSL) and even a cheap firewall.

If I knew what kind of High Speed you were on I could help you more...

Is The Origional Ns Abandoned?

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