Computer Upgrade

Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
edited April 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">look please</div> I currently have a 9800XT, 2 sticks of 512mb DDR400 (I want to put in dual channel), 3 hard drives (Running off of a 80gig 7200rpm Western Digital).

I was going to purchase these:
*<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-449&depa=1' target='_blank'>Motherboard</a>
*<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-174&depa=1' target='_blank'>Proccessor</a>

My current Motherboard and CPU cannot handle my current ram and video card.

Should I go with this cpu and mobo?

Thanks.

EDIT: btw, I do not plan on overclocking.
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  • WarriorWarrior Join Date: 2003-02-16 Member: 13624Members
    Looks like a very nice setup. Make sure you have the fans for your cpu ect also.
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    1) you have too much money
    2) get an athlon 64 with a MSI NEO FIS2R mobo or an ASUS something
    3) if you have to get a p4 dont get a prescott (2.8c instead of 2.8e)
    4) taco
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Poor choice of motherboard/proc. Just grab an ASUS K8V Deluxe and an Athlon64 3000+. It'll run you well under $300 for the whole shebang, and give you FAR better performance.
    I'd also suggest going for the R9800 Pro... $300 cheaper than the baseline XT, and only slightly worse performance.

    DDR400 is the only bet for max performance when running an Ath64.. I'd go for PC3200, or 4000 if you can splurge.


    And whatever you do, DON'T TOUCH the nForce3 chipset. It's the laughingstock of all available sets, getting up to 25% worse performance than the next-fastest. VIA K8T800 is the way to go.
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  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    edited April 2004
    I already have a 9800XT and two sticks of 512 DDR400.

    And Talesin, can you link the product your talking about?
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Er? Okay... well, manufacturer homepages first then.
    <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.HTM' target='_blank'>ASUS K8V Deluxe</a>
    <a href='http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487,00.html' target='_blank'>AMD's Ath64 Page</a>

    And now to find decent prices... screw NewEgg. Pricewatch!

    BZBoys has the K8V Deluxe for $134, or Spartan has the MSI K8TNEO-FSR (another top contender, beats the K8V sometimes) for $115.
    Ath64 3000 runs for $210, but you can get 'em cheaper. The 3200+ is $262.

    Better deals are the bundles... Sonicparts will do an MSI NEO and 3000+ for $330, and United Micro will do an ASUS K8V and 3000+ for $342, with a year warranty.


    Just FYI, the Ath64s are the way to go for forward-thinkers. The only OSen that can use the full 64-bit architecture are Win2003 and Linux, currently. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> But that's not a problem as they SPANK the P4s at roughly half the clockrate... an A64-FX51 at 2200MHz (stock speed) will mop the floor with a P4 overclocked to 4GHz in 95% of applications... and the only one where the P4 comes out as faster is in recompressing video. Not playing.. recompressing.
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    who told you to buy a prescott? dont! theyre horrible chips. some intel marketing has brainwashed you to buy the next bigger number of megahertz, and to shell out 400$ for it too?!
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  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    edited April 2004
    I've been looking over some Athlon boards and proccessors and have a few questions.

    What is HyperTransport? Is it the same/better than an 800Mhz FSB?
    Why are almost all the Athlon64 proccessors limited at a 2.2Ghz operating frequency?
    I can't find many ASUS Athlon mobos that can run DDR400 in Dual-channel.

    I'm trying to get a motherboard and proccessor that are about this:
    <b>2.8+ Ghz 800Mhz FSB L2/1mb cache, a mobo that can handle DDR400 in dual-channel, 8x AGP, fast onboard LAN, decent intergrated sound.</b>

    But my knowledge of AMD is very limited.

    EDIT: oh yeah. I have about $400 to blow.
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  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    bump
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    1) AMD chips don't NEED to run fast. They beat Intel like a red-headed stepchild when it comes to efficiency. You have a 2.2GHz Ath64? It OUTPERFORMS a P4@4GHz. It doesn't NEED the high clockrates. Sure, you can overclock. But you don't need to. You win.

    2) HyperTransport is a funky CPU I/O interface. It integrates a lot of older buzzwords, as well as new things like intra-CPU direct memory communication for multiprocessor machines.

    3) When you have RAM that fast, 'dual channel' is more a buzzword than anything else. On the K8V you can use up to two sticks of DDR400 at full-speed. If you add a third, it DOES drop a rank due to the bus bandwidth overhead. To keep full DDR400 with all sticks, be prepared to pay a good chunk of change (quite a bit more than $700-1000) for the motherboard alone.


    In short. The Ath64 is a much better bang for your buck. It's faster than the Intel solution, and has 64-bit flexibility (which the P4 doesn't).
    As noted. Go to Pricewatch, look up a motherboard bundle of an ASUS K8V and an Ath64 3000+ or better. You'll get it for a good chunk below $400, or hell... just go down to Fry's. You can probably pick one up for around (read: only a little bit more) the same price off-the-shelf.
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  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    Thanks alot for the help Talesin. I think I'll switch over to AMD.

    Cheers! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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