Stargate Vs. Farscape

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  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    Well I must say after reading all the differing viewpoints that perhaps I will give Stargate a shot. I still think Farscape is awesome though.

    I never got to see Red Dwarf <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> Obviously this was a well liked series. I hope they bring it back so I can check it out.

    Ah well theres always Star Trek on some channel somewhere. I like all the series but they got better as time went on I think. DS9 is my fav.

    Funny that nobody mentionned Andromeda. I really like how characters do unexpected things in that series. Like when Tyr betrayed Dillon and Beka betrayed Tyr after sleeping with him. A lot of the main characters are really cold blooded. Not a favorite series of mine but keeps my interest on lazy Saturdays.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    SciFi channel = the Soaps channel with action, nowadays, it seems.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Farscape was never on at a reasonable time here, and I only saw a handful of episodes for pretty much that reason. Stargate, on the other hand, has a regular slot at about 7:30 (well, it used to. At the moment I think we're between serieses. Well, at least I <i>hope</i> we are, and that it hasn't been canned).

    I like Stargate. I like how it doesn't take itself seriously, but at the same time I wish it was more serious. For one thing, Jack O'Neil is <i>never</i> wrong. Ever. Even when there's no good reason for him to be right, and it's purely his opinion. Now, the fact that he's the producer of the show may have a lot to do with that, but it's still a little irritating...

    I'd have liked to have seen more of Farscape. I'm always interested in well-developed worlds, and it looked like a lot of effort went into it.
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-rob6264+Apr 21 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rob6264 @ Apr 21 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's returning for a special miniseries, which is nice. Details <a href='http://www.farscape.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words cannot expression my elation at this moment. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wewt and yay! n_n
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    I forgot Sliders! That used to be me and my brothers favourite serious sci-fi show.

    (Red Dwarf being all-time fav.)
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-rob6264+Apr 20 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rob6264 @ Apr 20 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's returning for a special miniseries, which is nice. Details <a href='http://www.farscape.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words cannot expression my elation at this moment. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ditto.

    Although I am concerned they will try and pack all the story ends into this one "4 hour series" to bring it to a viable close.
    Which in some respects would be nice (better than the end of season 4 anyway) but also sad in a way...
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Apr 21 2004, 07:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Apr 21 2004, 07:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like Stargate. I like how it doesn't take itself seriously, but at the same time I wish it was more serious. For one thing, Jack O'Neil is <i>never</i> wrong. Ever. Even when there's no good reason for him to be right, and it's purely his opinion. Now, the fact that he's the producer of the show may have a lot to do with that, but it's still a little irritating... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And his IQ is below 60, so other team members have to explain stuff to him. This way they can explain it to the viewers with IQ below 60 too: "So you are saying, that when those snake doods shoot me with that bolt of lightning, I'm going to get hurt?" I hate how they underestimate viewers like this.

    Not to mention all ancient civilisations speak flawless english, of course with an accent to make it more authentic. And what's up with the chestbursters they stole from Aliens? Oh, and how about the fact that you know 5 minutes in advance what's going to happen next? Their writers have no imagination.

    Yeah, it's something you can watch when nothing else is on but it's still a stupid series :/
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    It's like comparibg Apples to Oranges, everyone has their own particular tastes, Personally I lub them all


    With the exception of the last season of Sliders where the enitre original cast left and they were replaced /shudder
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Apr 21 2004, 04:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Apr 21 2004, 04:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-rob6264+Apr 20 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rob6264 @ Apr 20 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's returning for a special miniseries, which is nice. Details <a href='http://www.farscape.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words cannot expression my elation at this moment. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ditto.

    Although I am concerned they will try and pack all the story ends into this one "4 hour series" to bring it to a viable close.
    Which in some respects would be nice (better than the end of season 4 anyway) but also sad in a way... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As long as Crichton works his magic, I'm happy.
  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    OMG Farscape returns!?!

    I loved that show. I mean, i've never been a sci-fi fan, but somehow fell in love with Farscape and was sad when i heard it was cancelled.

    Aeryn Sun is teh hotteh <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But seriously though, it's pretty obvious that intelligent series get canned because they are...well...too intelligent while stupid shows packed with cliches, explosions and nekkid women are watched by millions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, because helium flatulence is SO intellectual...
  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    Personally I love Stargate. Love the characters and actual humour in a sci-fi series. Its not for stupid people at all. The problem with Farscape is that you miss one episode and your screwed. That annoyed me so I stopped watching. I wasn't really warming to it in the first place.

    And what stone faced acting? That is the acting! Jack O'Neill isn't an emotional character. And they aren't explaining things for the viewer. It would look weird if Jack was stupid but didn't bring up te fact he didn't understand everytime.

    And yes Dread, everything vaguely snake shaped is stealing from Aliens.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aldaris+Apr 21 2004, 08:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldaris @ Apr 21 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And what stone faced acting? That is the acting! Jack O'Neill isn't an emotional character. And they aren't explaining things for the viewer. It would look weird if Jack was stupid but didn't bring up te fact he didn't understand everytime. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I just hate it when shows are force feeding me the story. Remember Matrix Revolutions? "Huh, WHO ARE YOU? Why are you talking like Agent Smith? Why are you calling me mr. Anderson? I don't get it" Every episode(or those that I've watched) have been like that. They don't leave _anything_ left for the viewer himself to think. If I want entertainment that doesn't require brainactivity, there are better choices than Star Gåte.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And yes Dread, everything vaguely snake shaped is stealing from Aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    A parasite snake-thingy that comes out of your chest. Yeah, there's no connection.

    But anyway, there's no point in arguing over this. Whatever turns you on.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, because helium flatulence is SO intellectual...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Huh? If you're talking about Farscape, I haven't watched it. And I don't say Firefly is 'intelligent' per se, but at least it's different and not completely full of cliches.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Apr 21 2004, 07:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Apr 21 2004, 07:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But seriously though, it's pretty obvious that intelligent series get canned because they are...well...too intelligent while stupid shows packed with cliches, explosions and nekkid women are watched by millions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, because helium flatulence is SO intellectual... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, actually, yes.

    The intellectual part is determining where exactly the Helium comes from.

    As you may know, Helium is one of the "Noble Gases". Noble Gases have a full outer electron shell, and so they can not chemically bond with other atoms.

    Considering all forms of flatulence are made of compounds that were broken down and restructured within the body, the origin of the Helium is unknown (because there was no way for it to be there in the first place, unless the subject forced it through their digestive tract).

    Discounting the idea of Fusion within the subjects body, the Helium came from an unknown place in an unknown manner.

    Now, use your brains, and mabey if we all work together, we can figure this mystery out.
  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Apr 21 2004, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Apr 21 2004, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Apr 21 2004, 07:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Apr 21 2004, 07:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Apr 20 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But seriously though, it's pretty obvious that intelligent series get canned because they are...well...too intelligent while stupid shows packed with cliches, explosions and nekkid women are watched by millions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, because helium flatulence is SO intellectual... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, actually, yes.

    The intellectual part is determining where exactly the Helium comes from.

    As you may know, Helium is one of the "Noble Gases". Noble Gases have a full outer electron shell, and so they can not chemically bond with other atoms.

    Considering all forms of flatulence are made of compounds that were broken down and restructured within the body, the origin of the Helium is unknown (because there was no way for it to be there in the first place, unless the subject forced it through their digestive tract).

    Discounting the idea of Fusion within the subjects body, the Helium came from an unknown place in an unknown manner.

    Now, use your brains, and mabey if we all work together, we can figure this mystery out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Helium won't react normally, but if you be very unkind to it, you can rip away electrons and thus force it to react. I don't it happening in a persons body tho. Also Helium won't be needed in anyone who breathes oxygen, just from comparative physiology.

    Maybe the writers just didn't realise this? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Oh and Dread, the parasites don't come out of the chest, they <i>enter</i> through the back of the mouth or the neck <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Apr 22 2004, 08:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Apr 22 2004, 08:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And yes Dread, everything vaguely snake shaped is stealing from Aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    A parasite snake-thingy that comes out of your chest. Yeah, there's no connection.

    But anyway, there's no point in arguing over this. Whatever turns you on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually - there really is very little connection.

    In aliens, eggs are planted in unsuspecting humans, hatch and come out of the humans stomach, using the person like an incubator and killing the host

    In stargate, the alien species, which exists only in a 10cm snake form, incubates itself in specially designed cavities inside specific humans, providing those humans with enhanced resistance to stuff etc....

    Eventually snake grows up, and goes in someone elses neck to take control of them, another baby snake is placed into the incubators belleh, and then the cycle starts all over again.

    If it is a "hack" from aliens, its a heavily adapted version bearing little similarity other than "snake lives in human for while".
  • FrostyFrosty Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15667Members
    lets see Stargate is good, and it grows on you.

    Farscape is better, though you realy have to pay atention (not a bad thing), its death was sad

    Firefly is better than Farscape, it however had a horable timeslot and died a sad and tragic death. There is a movie in production though (yay).


    ps I loved sliders, at least untill they started losing original cast and started a continueing story line. so yes it did get canceled, but it got crappy first.

    And its my opinion that great shows get canceled because execs try to appease the fickle masses as oposed to the loyal few. Short sightedness if you will. They just dont have the patience to wait for the loyal few to tell there freinds to create loyal masses.
  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marine01+Apr 21 2004, 11:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Apr 21 2004, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Apr 22 2004, 08:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Apr 22 2004, 08:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And yes Dread, everything vaguely snake shaped is stealing from Aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    A parasite snake-thingy that comes out of your chest. Yeah, there's no connection.

    But anyway, there's no point in arguing over this. Whatever turns you on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually - there really is very little connection.

    In aliens, eggs are planted in unsuspecting humans, hatch and come out of the humans stomach, using the person like an incubator and killing the host

    In stargate, the alien species, which exists only in a 10cm snake form, incubates itself in specially designed cavities inside specific humans, providing those humans with enhanced resistance to stuff etc....

    Eventually snake grows up, and goes in someone elses neck to take control of them, another baby snake is placed into the incubators belleh, and then the cycle starts all over again.

    If it is a "hack" from aliens, its a heavily adapted version bearing little similarity other than "snake lives in human for while". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just to kill the whole "theft of alien host concept" arguement I would like to point out that they are all derived from the concept of host insects. Certain types of wasps have been known to plant eggs inside of host insects, like caterpillars. The caterpillars eventually die as the baby wasp larvae eat it for sustenance.
  • TenebraeTenebrae Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1321Members
    Personally I like both. Farscape was good though when I missed eps I got completely lost while missing an ep of SG1 isn't usually that bad (as they're not interconnected that much).
    I like Stargate better than Farscape and I agree with Aldaris that Jack wouldn't seem right if he got something technical right first time for once.
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