I Wonder Why...
FireStorm
Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
<div class="IPBDescription">beta 4 was released...</div> I must say I'm surprised by this release. There are only minor changes. Sure, the new maps are fine, the new sounds too but apart that I see this release as pointless.
The combat spawncamping issue got worsened instead of being fixed. It's still the first team that manages to spawncamp the other one who wins. Great.
So I see only one reason of this release: the "big unnanounced system". It probably needed a quick release. What can it be? Spyware or what? Anyway if no one knows what it is it's pointless for now.
So what's the point of this beta? There are only a few changes and most of them lead to the wrong direction... Would it even be worth downloading if the servers didn't update? I don't think so.
It's the first time I'm disappointed by a NS beta. Too bad. Let's just hope beta 5 will be better. I believe the NS team is still able to do a very good job and I hope it's just a temporary tire.
The combat spawncamping issue got worsened instead of being fixed. It's still the first team that manages to spawncamp the other one who wins. Great.
So I see only one reason of this release: the "big unnanounced system". It probably needed a quick release. What can it be? Spyware or what? Anyway if no one knows what it is it's pointless for now.
So what's the point of this beta? There are only a few changes and most of them lead to the wrong direction... Would it even be worth downloading if the servers didn't update? I don't think so.
It's the first time I'm disappointed by a NS beta. Too bad. Let's just hope beta 5 will be better. I believe the NS team is still able to do a very good job and I hope it's just a temporary tire.
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-map changes
-ns_bast.bsp
-test of new combat spawning system
-bugfixes
-new sounds
You do realize that this is a beta version right? Before 3.0 was publicly released betas were coming out a lot quicker then they are now. If you don't like don't play it.
This version just needs map fixes (many many map bugs now) and some combat balancing to be OK..
It's true that normally such changes were introduced during a wekk, I guess it just took so long because Flayra didnt have time/will to work on NS during this period..
They wanted to test a new combat system and see how it goes
They changed / improved a few maps
They made sounds less painful to the ears
They brought back Bast
They fixed several bugs including phasing to an already recycled pg
They improved lerks (imo) to a point where they are finally worth 30 res
Jeeze, people expected to see NS on hl2 engine or something?
Changes like modified maps or sounds are just an addition to other, important changes. How many important changes are in this version? Not many...
i started a topic about this <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
for subject, i noticed no imporant changes...(i dont play combat much so who cares about sapwn system? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I think I have a double gamma fix on my PC. Since B4 the gamma on my game has skyrocketed, the only way to fix it is to alt-tab out and do the gamma reset button. Even then as son as I use the console BOOM, uber bright game again ¬_¬
And ofcourse the wonderful crashes everyone experiences over and over again due to also wonderful programming. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Code -> internal Alpha -> Public Beta
kkthxbai
Shorter games yes, more spawn camping than ever yes!
Map changes are nice!, i love new triad in eclipse! Marines stand a bit more chances now and good aliens too!
new respawn system to give combat shorter games*
new sounds
new bug fixes
new maps
map tweaks
map error fixes
Sprite/Code fixes**
*this system is currently in the state it is because of a mis-communication between the developers. the fix for it: be more careful as a marine, get armor first, and pay attention to how many of your teamates are down.
**to show you how intense the PT and bugfix stage was before B4 was publically released, there was a commander bug that was never reported. Flayra was uploading the beta to the mirrors AS we discovered it. he had to cancel his upload, and re-code a portion of the game before he could finish his uploading. that's how CLOSE you were to being able to NOT play normal NS.
since i've pretty much answered all of your question, and a little more... i'm going to be locking this thread, since everything past this post is and would be spam.