What Is Suicide By Divine Wind?

zodiaczodiac Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27439Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">I see this in my server logs</div> I have even seen it, it is a circle of fire that kills anyone near it, even the player that performs it, but how does this option come about? I don't consider myself a newb but I need to inquire about it.

Thanks

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  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    edited April 2004
    TENNOUHEIKA BANZAIIIIIIII!!!!!!!

    It's the skulk's forth ability. unlocked via 3rd hive.

    You press 4 and fire when its available.

    *edit* by the way, that "tennouheika banzai" (long live the emperor) is what those Japanese soldiers usually screamed when rushing into battle during WW2... And what those pilots most likely screamed before crashing into those ships. That was called a KAMI-KAZE (KAMI=GOD, KAZE 'KAH-ZEH'=wind). Skulk's xenocide is similar in respect that they give their life to do huge damage to the opponents.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited April 2004
    "Divine Wind" is the weapon name for the skulk's Xenocide ability. It counts as a suicide when you use it, since you blow yourself up in the process. Can't remember offhand if it negatively impacts your score, but I don't think it does.

    The phrase "divine wind" is the literal translation of "kamikaze." In WW2, approximately 7,000 Japanese kamikaze pilots gave their lives for the war by flying their planes into enemy targets (e.g. warships). Hence the name for the skulk's suicidal explosion.
  • Hovaring_FattyHovaring_Fatty Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26433Members
    Yah, it adds one point to your deaths, plus a point to your kills for every 'rine you take out.
  • BattleTechBattleTech Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4137Members
    edited April 2004
    Well, think of when a Skulk nuke's 3+ marine's. =P
    I saw somebody take out seven marine's in combat with xenocide.

    So, it doe's make sense since the alien sacrifice's himself for the hive (i.e. the logs)
  • RahXephonRahXephon Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21929Members, Constellation
    I'm not much of a japan historian, but I know where the word kamikaze comes from... somewhat. Somewhere in the middle ages 1200-1300 or something like that, the korean army where massing an invasion fleet(+ invasion soldiers) near japan so huge that all japan was scared of. But when it set sail, a huge flood (or tsunami, or whatever) wiped out the entire war fleet(+invasion soldiers) of korea. It was pure coincidence, but the japanese thought it was a favor of god. Hence 'Divine' Wind.
  • LeetLlamaLeetLlama Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20260Members
    From my extensive degree in the History Channel, that sounds about right Rah.
  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    Just for your info its skulks fourth ability.

    Hive 3 weapon if you'd prefer.

    Try it in combat. Best way to use it is to click the xenocide a second before a fight then leap at the men you want to blow up,

    If you get good u can xeno leap and bite all after each other and knock out whole groups.

    hud_fastswitch 1 for changing weaps quickly helps alot.

    - RD
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-RahXephon+Apr 26 2004, 08:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RahXephon @ Apr 26 2004, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not much of a japan historian, but I know where the word kamikaze comes from... somewhat. Somewhere in the middle ages 1200-1300 or something like that, the korean army where massing an invasion fleet(+ invasion soldiers) near japan so huge that all japan was scared of. But when it set sail, a huge flood (or tsunami, or whatever) wiped out the entire war fleet(+invasion soldiers) of korea. It was pure coincidence, but the japanese thought it was a favor of god. Hence 'Divine' Wind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Close, but although Koreans participated in the attack, it wasnt a Korean Invasion, It was a Mongol Invasion. Remember the Mongols?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->After consolidating his rule in China, Kubilai Khan sent envoys to demand tribute from Japan and threatened reprisals if they did not. From the palace at Kyoto the Japanese answered that their nation had divine origins and therefore was not to be subject to anyone, and they began preparing a defense. Skeptical about Japan's claim,  Kubilai Khan felt that he could not permit a little power like Japan to defy him.  In 1274 he launched an assault on Japan from southern Korea -- a Mongol, Chinese and Korean force, with 600 to 900 ships, 23,000 troops, catapults, combustible missiles, bows and arrows.  Bad weather compelled the invasion force to return from Japan's southern most major island -- Kyushu. In the summer of 1281 Kubilai Khan tried again, this time sending some 4000 ships. For fifty-three days the Japanese held the invaders to a narrow beachhead on Kyushu. Then a hurricane struck. The Mongols withdrew again, only half of his force making it back to China. The Japanese  interpreted their good fortune as he work of their gods. labeling the hurricane as a god wind -- kami-kaze. It would be the last attempt to invade Japan until 1945, when kamikaze would also be a word of significance.

    <a href='http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h11mon.htm#s4' target='_blank'>http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h11mon.htm#s4</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Apr 25 2004, 11:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Apr 25 2004, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Divine Wind" is the weapon name for the skulk's Xenocide ability. It counts as a suicide when you use it, since you blow yourself up in the process. Can't remember offhand if it negatively impacts your score, but I don't think it does.

    The phrase "divine wind" is the literal translation of "kamikaze." In WW2, approximately 7,000 Japanese kamikaze pilots gave their lives for the war by flying their planes into enemy targets (e.g. warships). Hence the name for the skulk's suicidal explosion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ^^


    Coil is exactly right, as usual
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    Yesterday, I was camping the MS vent from Sewer on ns_nothing. (I think it's nothing, anyway.) I waited a bit for the right time to strike, because I didn't want to get pwned by a bunch of guys camping the entrance or something.

    Then the comm hit the bacon.

    Xenos big enough to overload the death messages make my willy expand. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> According to their reports, I tagged five.

    I thanked the 'rines for my new onos, and proceeded to get horribly pwnt the first time I lumbered into combat, because some idiot blocked me. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    edited April 2004
    Divine Wind is a direct translation of the japanese word "kamikaze", which is used to signify Xenocide kills/deaths.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The phrase "divine wind" is the literal translation of "kamikaze." In WW2, approximately 7,000 Japanese kamikaze pilots gave their lives for the war by flying their planes into enemy targets (e.g. warships). Hence the name for the skulk's suicidal explosion.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not entirely correct, the origin of the word is instead the winds believed to protect the islands of Japan from outside invasion. On more than one occassion, a tsunami destroyed a fleet of approaching craft and saved the people of Japan from invasion, causing the myth of the 'divine wind' or "Kamikazi" around them. They had no such advantage in WW2, and therefor they attempted to emulate that with their loyal pilots, who gave their lives in protection of their homeland an emporer.

    As a side note, I highly respect those people, for what they did for what they believed. I would do the same for something I believed in so strongly.
  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    see "man on fire"
    the bodyguard--
    wait, i shouldent spoil the movie...

    giving your life for something, to me is both, dumb and great.
    dumb as in you will never see the change you make, and you cannot return to everything you love.
    and great as in you do the best thing for your country, for what you love, hopefully, you will win, and you make your loved ones life far better.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Asal The Unforgiving+Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asal The Unforgiving @ Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They had no such advantage in WW2, and therefor they attempted to emulate that with their loyal pilots, who gave their lives in protection of their homeland an emporer.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just a little piece of trivia - The Japanese almost had the help of a "divine wind" in WWII. Just a month or two after they surrendered, a hurricane struck one of the islands that the major assaults on mainland Japan were coming from (I think Guam, maybe not). Since the war's end, most of the island's military presence had been removed. Casualties and losses were still significant, in fact most of the installations on the island were destroyed. Had the hurricane struck earlier, potentially hundreds of American ships and planes could have been lost.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    You wanna know suicide? Try running out in front of 5 alien defense structures and 1 fade, backed by 2 of the fastest aliens, all in an effort to create a diversion for your squad and help their advance.

    Thats suicide... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+Apr 26 2004, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ Apr 26 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You wanna know suicide? Try running out in front of 5 alien defense structures and 1 fade, backed by 2 of the fastest aliens, all in an effort to create a diversion for your squad and help their advance.

    Thats suicide... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's a reason 'p' is bound to "say FOR THE GOOD OF THE MANY!!!"

    Or you can just play with me, and find out. I will even stand between aliens and heavies if I have no weapon to lose(or it's an onos), or aliens and lights if they carry weapons and I'm a heavy.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    And I would give one for the team any other day I could. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    Oh for Chao's sake, it's a **** GAME!

    I have perfect confidence that NONE of the people here (including me) would give their ACTUAL lives for a cause, no matter how noble.

    You know why? Because everyone who can read these forums has access to a computer, most likely in a Western country, who hasn't learned a single damned thing about group values, and animals are instinctually selfish.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Id give my virtual life for a cause, but if it came down to my actual self being then no, I would have to consider that. Did you really think I was talking about my real self?
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    No, I'm saying that it's useless and stupid to say you'd give your virtual life for a virtual cause.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    I find it quite satisfying and fufilling, knowing you helped to preserve your friends, and I always get commended for doing something to save an entire group of marines, with praise and weapons. I find myself as expendable, not a great-assed foot soldier.
  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Apr 26 2004, 09:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Apr 26 2004, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh for Chao's sake, it's a **** GAME!

    I have perfect confidence that NONE of the people here (including me) would give their ACTUAL lives for a cause, no matter how noble.

    You know why? Because everyone who can read these forums has access to a computer, most likely in a Western country, who hasn't learned a single damned thing about group values, and animals are instinctually selfish. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would not hesitate to give my life to protect my friends, whom I hold most dear. Please do not assume things.

    So yes, I would give my actual life for a cause. The preservation of my friends. Perhaps also the cause of justice, depending on what crime was commited.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    He has already done so.
  • someoneElsesomeoneElse Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11135Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Asal The Unforgiving+Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asal The Unforgiving @ Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They had no such advantage in WW2, and therefor they attempted to emulate that with their loyal pilots, who gave their lives in protection of their homeland an emporer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless you count the Jet Stream.

    Waves of US made high-altitude bombers encountered a previously unknown phenomena, that we now know as the Jet Stream which goes directly over Japan and around the globe in a pair of 'belts', winds of such extremely high speeds that simply pushed the planes backwards many times faster than their engines could carry them forwards. This forced them to fly far lower than they had been designed to make their bombing runs from, making them effectively useless.

    The Japanese military would later employ the infamous 'balloon bombs', cheap weather balloons that would float up into the jetstream, and move with it at very high velocity all the way to North America, where it would release their payload of explosives. Rather inexpensive and unexpected. There was a huge effort to intercept these balloons before reaching their targets, and this combined with the fact that it was only a test run, and not put into full effect, meant that they did very little damage in the short time before the war was over.
  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-someoneElse+Apr 26 2004, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (someoneElse @ Apr 26 2004, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Asal The Unforgiving+Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asal The Unforgiving @ Apr 26 2004, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They had no such advantage in WW2, and therefor they attempted to emulate that with their loyal pilots, who gave their lives in protection of their homeland an emporer. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless you count the Jet Stream.

    Waves of US made high-altitude bombers encountered a previously unknown phenomena, that we now know as the Jet Stream which goes directly over Japan and around the globe in a pair of 'belts', winds of such extremely high speeds that simply pushed the planes backwards many times faster than their engines could carry them forwards. This forced them to fly far lower than they had been designed to make their bombing runs from, making them effectively useless.

    The Japanese military would later employ the infamous 'balloon bombs', cheap weather balloons that would float up into the jetstream, and move with it at very high velocity all the way to North America, where it would release their payload of explosives. Rather inexpensive and unexpected. There was a huge effort to intercept these balloons before reaching their targets, and this combined with the fact that it was only a test run, and not put into full effect, meant that they did very little damage in the short time before the war was over. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You did more research than me, I was only going from memory.... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    I've already given my life for a cause... >_>


    Yeah


    But they are right, the Japanese Islands are suposedly surrounded by a mystic wind that will crush any outside invasion... unfortunately, they don't stop B 24's that well <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Japanese military would later employ the infamous 'balloon bombs', cheap weather balloons that would float up into the jetstream, and move with it at very high velocity all the way to North America, where it would release their payload of explosives. Rather inexpensive and unexpected. There was a huge effort to intercept these balloons before reaching their targets, and this combined with the fact that it was only a test run, and not put into full effect, meant that they did very little damage in the short time before the war was over.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They where made of f'ing laminated rice paper. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    They plague bombs where even more evil(plague infested fleas and sand to protect them from the heat of the bomb where dropped on China.)
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Even if we had this Jet Stream going, they still were doing horribly, due to lack of gas, and crappy fighters. Not to mention that the submarines we had were just capping them left and right in the ocean. We island hopped over to their main island and then bombed the hell out of them. We also had an airial advantage because our planes were much more armored then their weak Zero's, which were so thin-plated that a well-done Thompson round could bring one down, if it was close enough. Although fast, they were still paper thin planes, which gave us a large advantage. Not to mention the bad luck when their biggest destroyer just ran out of gas!
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