~pokes kwik~ I'm wondering more on the credability of your post, it just seems like some jump-in to try and gain some status by beating on another poster rather than anything the thread merrited, not to mention by trying to appear superior you've jumped even further from the topic than my post ever had.
My opinion is my opinion. That's all it is and while you might not see how it 'touched base' (in that superman is an immortal character of shallow design, therefore they didn't even bother handling the story arcs involved in why he never ages, nor had to because it's not important to a character of his sort), it's posted and whether I'd posted them back when the creators could've read it or now doesn't harm it's value any.
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Thought it might be good for the topic. Brian's a cool guy.
Oh and what I said about batman, there is no doubting that he is one of the more interesting characters precisely because he is so deficient. I still say he is useless as a 'superhero'.
If they included him for brains in the justice league why not stick Stephen Hawkings in some spandex? For his Detective ability? Imagine Inspector Columbo in a cape!
Batman just isn't super. He is a hero yes but nothing else.
lol CM, like I said he's more than just smart, he's an expert in stealth and a damn good fighter. Like you said though he's not really a 'super' hero but then again that's why I personally like him <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>Villian 1:</b> "hey... did you hear that?" <b>Villian 2:</b> "hear what?" <b>Villian 1:</b> "I dunno. Sounded like... a wheelchair?" ~steven hawkings rolls silently from the shadows like a dark reliant robin of justice!~ <b>Villian 2:</b> "what the-" ~Steven takes out the enemy before he can even finish the sentence with his deadly and precise electric wheelchair martial arts. He then turns to the other, his glasses and drool gleaming menacingly in the moonlight and filling the gangster with fear!~
Lol Gem ya crazy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I like both Batman and Superman simply because they're exact opposites. One the American boy scout with a squaky clean image, with tremendous super powers the other the dark knight, focused and mysterious with no super abilities. I also like the way their working relationship works on one of respect, even more amazing that Batan respects anyone, and Superman respects a normal human.
If i remeber correctly, in the mid 80s, Batman got old and somewhat weak, so he busted out guns and Batawp'd some bad guys, i think it was right before the whole Batman Vs Superman series started....
Was a good indicator of the Reagan Years....
... I saw it on "The History of Comics" on Yhe History Channel
Superheros are not much fun, cause they always win, no matter what. In real life, sometimes the bad guy does win.
Lets take spiderman for example, his main tool is a freaking SPIDER WEB, then you look at the villan, that has a fully outiftted <b>H</b><b>ovarsWithoutFlapping™</b> skateboard fitted with gatling cannons, heat seeking rocket launchers, shiny grenades, instant pizza, etc.
But, Spiderman whips him. Uh...? Does the villan not know how to use his tools or is spiderman wearing his lucky underpants? Or is spiderman using hacks? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'd like to see them make a movie where they hype up this superhero, he takes cares of a lot of baddies, then someone sets out to kill him, and they do it, not easily, but they get it done, then they can come up with a creative way to take care of the villan so that the movie has a happy ending or maybe not.
Oh yeah, are there any movies with unhappy endings, I dont think i've ever seen one.
Spiderman uses hacks, simple as. He can climb up walls without big claws on his feet and WHILE WEARING SOCKS! Plus he can sense people without seeing them (obviously he has a HUD built in to his mask and can see a little map thing in his screen.
Have you seen him bunny hop too? I mean I'm all for a showing a bit of skill but thats just a blatant script, no one can get it that perfect over such varied terrain so consistently.
O.k you've convinced me that Batman doesn't suck, but Robin is still a complete n00b <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+May 22 2004, 01:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ May 22 2004, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> O.k you've convinced me that Batman doesn't suck, but Robin is still a complete n00b <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Worst....sidekick....evar... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah but the butler kicked ****!
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superman doesn't have "superpowers". he's a perfectly normal alien.
if aliens are "superpowerful" then by that logic every fictional alien with any kind fo special attribute or skill or ability is a superhero/supervillain.
also:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Captain America's appeal was novel; he was not born with great power, but rather had it bestowed upon him as a gift. The champion of freedom started out as Steve Rogers, a scrawny 4-F rejected by the army and then redeemed by a dose of a "strange seething liquid" that turned him into a strapping specimen of heroic young manhood. It cold happen to anyone, even the ordinary reader. And part of the attraction was that Steve Rogers never became excessively gifted; he wasn't invulnerable - he was just tougher and braver and smarter than anyone else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-error 404 name not found+Jun 8 2004, 10:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (error 404 name not found @ Jun 8 2004, 10:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im not sure if anyone said it, but batman (and sidekicks) is the only "superhero" to NOT HAVE ANY SUPERPOWERS!
all he has is his funny suit (and the bat-utility-belt) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There are plenty of superheroes without powers. Iron Man, Hawkeye, Green Arrow, Huntress etc.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jun 8 2004, 09:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jun 8 2004, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> superman doesn't have "superpowers". he's a perfectly normal alien. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Technically he does, because Kryptonians don't have his powers, he "aquired them" from the sun.
Not perfectly normal if you ask me. Just like the Hulk, he "aquired" his power from somthing outside of his controll, making his powers "super"
<!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+May 6 2004, 09:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ May 6 2004, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gem, your so very right.
Saying that, I hate it when its the other way and the superheroes just aren't... super! I mean, how the hell is batman supposed to save the world from anything? I don't care who you give some fancy gadgets, unless you stick them in an ironman style suit your not gonna have a super hero. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pfft. Batman schools Superman all over the place. Batman is the one and only cape in the world cooler than Spiderman. That's hard to do. He's cool specifically because he doesn't need superpowers. He fights crime with a brain the size of a planet, ninja moves, and a huge wad of cash. That rocks.
<!--QuoteBegin-007Bistromath+Jun 9 2004, 04:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (007Bistromath @ Jun 9 2004, 04:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pfft. Batman schools Superman all over the place. Batman is the one and only cape in the world cooler than Spiderman. That's hard to do. He's cool specifically because he doesn't need superpowers. He fights crime with a brain the size of a planet, ninja moves, and a huge wad of cash. That rocks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Batman hides in a cave and has a ghei lookin sidekick and couldn't hold a candle to Supie if he was kryptonited.
That being said, you failed to answer my original question.
Christopher Reeves has died at 52. R.I P. dood ... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-voogru+May 21 2004, 03:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ May 21 2004, 03:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Superheros are not much fun, cause they always win, no matter what. In real life, sometimes the bad guy does win.
Lets take spiderman for example, his main tool is a freaking SPIDER WEB, then you look at the villan, that has a fully outiftted <b>H</b><b>ovarsWithoutFlapping™</b> skateboard fitted with gatling cannons, heat seeking rocket launchers, shiny grenades, instant pizza, etc.
But, Spiderman whips him. Uh...? Does the villan not know how to use his tools or is spiderman wearing his lucky underpants? Or is spiderman using hacks? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, it's weird - the Green Goblin always loses to Spiderman, but Norman Osbourne always wins. :/
There's an awful lot of character development done on Batman over the years, he's a much more human character than some omnipotent pansy in primary colours.
<!--QuoteBegin-Necrosis+Oct 11 2004, 01:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Oct 11 2004, 01:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, Batman kicks Superman's bottom. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not even when supie's having a bad day stoned on kryptonite. Besides... Batman plays with young boys e.g Robin. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Depends really... if bats was hunting superman he'd do his research, make an array of armour and gadgets that utilise crytonite and sun-blocking and then take supe apart.
If Supe was hunting bats without giving him time or notice then yeah... superman would probably win. Whenver the batman is ready to take something on though; it's going down <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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~pokes kwik~
I'm wondering more on the credability of your post, it just seems like some jump-in to try and gain some status by beating on another poster rather than anything the thread merrited, not to mention by trying to appear superior you've jumped even further from the topic than my post ever had.
My opinion is my opinion. That's all it is and while you might not see how it 'touched base' (in that superman is an immortal character of shallow design, therefore they didn't even bother handling the story arcs involved in why he never ages, nor had to because it's not important to a character of his sort), it's posted and whether I'd posted them back when the creators could've read it or now doesn't harm it's value any.
Oh and what I said about batman, there is no doubting that he is one of the more interesting characters precisely because he is so deficient. I still say he is useless as a 'superhero'.
If they included him for brains in the justice league why not stick Stephen Hawkings in some spandex? For his Detective ability? Imagine Inspector Columbo in a cape!
Batman just isn't super. He is a hero yes but nothing else.
<b>Villian 1:</b> "hey... did you hear that?"
<b>Villian 2:</b> "hear what?"
<b>Villian 1:</b> "I dunno. Sounded like... a wheelchair?"
~steven hawkings rolls silently from the shadows like a dark reliant robin of justice!~
<b>Villian 2:</b> "what the-"
~Steven takes out the enemy before he can even finish the sentence with his deadly and precise electric wheelchair martial arts. He then turns to the other, his glasses and drool gleaming menacingly in the moonlight and filling the gangster with fear!~
I like both Batman and Superman simply because they're exact opposites. One the American boy scout with a squaky clean image, with tremendous super powers the other the dark knight, focused and mysterious with no super abilities. I also like the way their working relationship works on one of respect, even more amazing that Batan respects anyone, and Superman respects a normal human.
Was a good indicator of the Reagan Years....
... I saw it on "The History of Comics" on Yhe History Channel
Lets take spiderman for example, his main tool is a freaking SPIDER WEB, then you look at the villan, that has a fully outiftted <b>H</b><b>ovarsWithoutFlapping™</b> skateboard fitted with gatling cannons, heat seeking rocket launchers, shiny grenades, instant pizza, etc.
But, Spiderman whips him. Uh...? Does the villan not know how to use his tools or is spiderman wearing his lucky underpants? Or is spiderman using hacks? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'd like to see them make a movie where they hype up this superhero, he takes cares of a lot of baddies, then someone sets out to kill him, and they do it, not easily, but they get it done, then they can come up with a creative way to take care of the villan so that the movie has a happy ending or maybe not.
Oh yeah, are there any movies with unhappy endings, I dont think i've ever seen one.
The Killing
Scarface (1930's at least)
Reservoir Dogs
...loads others
Have you seen him bunny hop too? I mean I'm all for a showing a bit of skill but thats just a blatant script, no one can get it that perfect over such varied terrain so consistently.
Possibly he just has his own supply of nanites.
Worst....sidekick....evar...
Worst....sidekick....evar... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah but the butler kicked ****!
all he has is his funny suit (and the bat-utility-belt)
if aliens are "superpowerful" then by that logic every fictional alien with any kind fo special attribute or skill or ability is a superhero/supervillain.
also:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Captain America's appeal was novel; he was not born with great power, but rather had it bestowed upon him as a gift. The champion of freedom started out as Steve Rogers, a scrawny 4-F rejected by the army and then redeemed by a dose of a "strange seething liquid" that turned him into a strapping specimen of heroic young manhood. It cold happen to anyone, even the ordinary reader. And part of the attraction was that Steve Rogers never became excessively gifted; he wasn't invulnerable - he was just tougher and braver and smarter than anyone else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
all he has is his funny suit (and the bat-utility-belt) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are plenty of superheroes without powers. Iron Man, Hawkeye, Green Arrow, Huntress etc.
Technically he does, because Kryptonians don't have his powers, he "aquired them" from the sun.
Not perfectly normal if you ask me. Just like the Hulk, he "aquired" his power from somthing outside of his controll, making his powers "super"
(I like to use "quotation" marks)
Saying that, I hate it when its the other way and the superheroes just aren't... super! I mean, how the hell is batman supposed to save the world from anything? I don't care who you give some fancy gadgets, unless you stick them in an ironman style suit your not gonna have a super hero. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pfft. Batman schools Superman all over the place. Batman is the one and only cape in the world cooler than Spiderman. That's hard to do. He's cool specifically because he doesn't need superpowers. He fights crime with a brain the size of a planet, ninja moves, and a huge wad of cash. That rocks.
Batman hides in a cave and has a ghei lookin sidekick and couldn't hold a candle to Supie if he was kryptonited.
That being said, you failed to answer my original question.
Lets take spiderman for example, his main tool is a freaking SPIDER WEB, then you look at the villan, that has a fully outiftted <b>H</b><b>ovarsWithoutFlapping™</b> skateboard fitted with gatling cannons, heat seeking rocket launchers, shiny grenades, instant pizza, etc.
But, Spiderman whips him. Uh...? Does the villan not know how to use his tools or is spiderman wearing his lucky underpants? Or is spiderman using hacks? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, it's weird - the Green Goblin always loses to Spiderman, but Norman Osbourne always wins. :/
There's an awful lot of character development done on Batman over the years, he's a much more human character than some omnipotent pansy in primary colours.
Also, Batman kicks Superman's bottom.
Not even when supie's having a bad day stoned on kryptonite.
Besides... Batman plays with young boys e.g Robin. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If Supe was hunting bats without giving him time or notice then yeah... superman would probably win. Whenver the batman is ready to take something on though; it's going down <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->