Pros. Vs Pubs.(normal Players)
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Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18103Members
Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18103Members
<div class="IPBDescription">what makes them different?</div> As you all know,NS is really a strategy game, played from a 1rst person view(except commander).That means it is not a shooter game... now that's what makes it different from shooter games, the Strategy.
In here, Pros and Pubs(normal players) gona be exposed to some very probable situations in a game... and as we go, we are going to compare them both.
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#1 Pubs.
<b>Game starts</b>,you are an alien, you decide to go gorg, after transforming into a gorg,you decide to drop a SC without asking your team... or you just go drop some OC. or RT.
#1 Pros.
<b>Game starts</b>,you are an alien, you check the score board, you see that you don't have enough gorgs on your team, so you decide to go gorg, after transforming into a gorg,you ask your team what chamber they want 1rst, then you drop the chamber chosen by your team... or you just go drop some RT or rush to secure 2nd hive by dropping some OC there(which is not yet built)
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#2 Pubs.
You are in <b>middle game</b>, you are an alien, you've just finished building 2nd hive, you decide to drop a SC or RandomC without asking your team and without checking the scoreboard.
#2 Pros.
You are in <b>middle game</b>, you are an alien, you've just finished building 2nd hive, after having a look at the score board, you decide that it is best to drop a MC, but before doing so, you ask your team and you explain what you think is best , after your team's decision, you drop the Chosen C.
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Known abbreviations:
MC : Movement Chamber
DC : Defense Chamber
SC: Sensory Chamber
C : Chamber
Pros. : professionals
Pubs. : Public players or normal players
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By the way....
When I say,"after having a look at the score board" or something with the score board, it means that the player is checking the fromes of his teammates (skulk,gorg,fade...)
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FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE PROBABLE SITUATIONS...GUIDE NS PLAYERS TO THEIR WAY OF "TEAM PLAY"
In here, Pros and Pubs(normal players) gona be exposed to some very probable situations in a game... and as we go, we are going to compare them both.
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#1 Pubs.
<b>Game starts</b>,you are an alien, you decide to go gorg, after transforming into a gorg,you decide to drop a SC without asking your team... or you just go drop some OC. or RT.
#1 Pros.
<b>Game starts</b>,you are an alien, you check the score board, you see that you don't have enough gorgs on your team, so you decide to go gorg, after transforming into a gorg,you ask your team what chamber they want 1rst, then you drop the chamber chosen by your team... or you just go drop some RT or rush to secure 2nd hive by dropping some OC there(which is not yet built)
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#2 Pubs.
You are in <b>middle game</b>, you are an alien, you've just finished building 2nd hive, you decide to drop a SC or RandomC without asking your team and without checking the scoreboard.
#2 Pros.
You are in <b>middle game</b>, you are an alien, you've just finished building 2nd hive, after having a look at the score board, you decide that it is best to drop a MC, but before doing so, you ask your team and you explain what you think is best , after your team's decision, you drop the Chosen C.
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Known abbreviations:
MC : Movement Chamber
DC : Defense Chamber
SC: Sensory Chamber
C : Chamber
Pros. : professionals
Pubs. : Public players or normal players
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By the way....
When I say,"after having a look at the score board" or something with the score board, it means that the player is checking the fromes of his teammates (skulk,gorg,fade...)
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FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE PROBABLE SITUATIONS...GUIDE NS PLAYERS TO THEIR WAY OF "TEAM PLAY"
Comments
Concur, little to do with gorges.
apart from that, i reccomend newer players to go gorge whilst using the minimap © and ask their team what he/she needs to build.
outdated examples.
DUH
thank you for stating the obvious.
Not really all that flame worthy.
well, you can't be a pro. in a game where you shoot, and the view is 1rst peson, i mean... you see the enemy, you shoot at him, that's it that's all...
But what i mean by saying pros. , is ppl with expirience, ppl that know what to do if aliens went SC 1rst, ppl that know how to win even if they did not tech up to HA or JP...
that's what i mean with pros. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND WHEN TO DO IT...(SOME TIMES HOW TO DO IT...)
I've never been in a clan, but Id doubt they would waste ingame time wondering which chamber goes when.
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more or less
Pro/Better then average pubber vs. pubber
I only pub at the moment, but I would guess the biggest difference is not that your average pubber is retarded. Rather the biggest difference is that you are playing with all twitch talented players and you know what your team is capable of/going to do in the begining of every match. I wager that there are MANY MANY pubbers that do things like talk to thier teams, check the score board, and play using stratagy, I'm one of them.
Examples. Ns_caged or is it nothing?..the one with via and powersilo..marines are seiging viduct. Another reg comes up with a plan to stop them. Eat the pg in marine base. He proceeds to get it down to red then is killed. However he knows there are other ppl on the team. He calls to me and i go and have a pop at the pg. I arrive just as two marines have their welders out, with incerdible good fortune they have their back to the door, quick work to chomp them, at this point im under fire from a 3rd, i still concentrate on the pg and it goes down. This means that the seige outpost wont have any reinforcements for a while. The hive has a breather. Next we move on to take the 3rd hive. We both meet up and go gorg. At the same time we start bilebombing, the one rine that has a chance to come through before it goes down is eaten by a lerk. Cargo is quickly lamed up. Next we bilebomb their rts and bile a seige outpost in gen. With no rts the marines fail to hold on at via and its all over bar mopping up the odd phasegate.
What marks the pros out? Relying on and using your teammates, using strategy to hurt the marines rather than going toe to toe all the time, watching for and taking down marines building phases. And also a certain amount of skill. Example, taking out three marines at the same time.
If you hadn't guessed im talking about a pub. Clanners..well see below.
You can tell the difference between a clanner and a pubber. The clanner will have put up the hive and gone fade with a nice kill ratio like 3:1 or against really crappy marines a final score of 43:2. There is lots of skill involved even if its a first person shooter. I wouldnt say as much skill as Warcraft 3. You have to micromanage so freakin much and at high speeds(protecting your hereo/magic units, using magic, matching up your units with enemy units to maximize damage, building more units, upgrading, expanding, creeping, and so on. It gets even harder when you have a teamate you have to corordinate with. 2 armies attacking 1 army is rape even if the other guys army arrives 10 seconds late that 10 seconds is enough to make a huge difference.
For example when i am attacking a skulk I know when a skulk is about to die, just by how much I have hit him. A lot of the time i stop shooting right as the skulk dies.
Its multiple things like the above mentioned that we just do as almost second nature that the pubbers dont do. Thats what seperates us.
Yeah except sometimes I've missed more than I thought I have, so I stop shooting and the skulk is... still alive. Oops.
But what i mean by saying pros. , is ppl with expirience, ppl that know what to do if aliens went SC 1rst, ppl that know how to win even if they did not tech up to HA or JP...
that's what i mean with pros. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND WHEN TO DO IT...(SOME TIMES HOW TO DO IT...)
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ive been playing NS since the day it was released
i know most tactics and how to counter them but i dont comm
i am in a clan and was vet the short time it ran
but now i dont take it as serious as i once did so this makes me just a pup ?
in early game, you need map control. sc put up at key locations, make this easier before rines get many ups. I always drop sc in pubs without asking cause it forces everyone to hurry for 2nd hive. No fade or onos should go without the 2nd hive, so the first guy goes right for that hive. Yes, late game it doesn't help much, but you shouldn't need mc or dc until 4-5 minutes in, which is when 2nd hive should be up. Droppin sc in pubs force this to happen. tough love. ive yet to see a pub with sc first to lose.
anyway, that i got that out, all clans aren't at the same level as silverwolf. Keep in mind he is part of the best clan out there period. While others still believe you can't blink/swipe or BH without scripts... Overall its coordination, teamwork, everyone knows eachother fairly well, and talk alot.
However, I do think it's important to communicate with your team. Dropping any chambers without even saying you are isn't a good idea...
I agree. Pros(clanners) take things more serious. This may also widen the gap in skill but not necessarly. Ive seen very skilled pubbers and very skilled clanners. The one major difference is teamwork. Clanners work together as a team much better than your avg pubbers.
Instead what i see mostly on pub's that is different from clan matches is the game is slower paced, and strategy seems more relaxed. Another inevitable thing in public games is uneven spreads of skill, you may have 5 good fades but no decent lerks or oni.
About the whole stopping when the skulk is dead thing. I knew somone who owned at the game and timed everything perfect. I totally mess with him by getting cara and hiding 3 d chambers in a vent. I killed him 3 times in a row by horse shoe and then he was like Act Chill are you hacking now??? I then laughed at him and told him what was up.