Nintendo Ds And Sony Psp...
<div class="IPBDescription">...at E3 (Gamespot)</div> Well, the two new portable consoles are all reveled and stuff now. So hop on over to gamespot and have a looksies.
<a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/11/news_6097116.html' target='_blank'>PSP</a>
<a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/11/news_6097113.html' target='_blank'>DS</a>
I'm pretty impressed by them both, the DS has alot more features than i thought it would, proprietry Wi-fi, standard wi-fi, backwards compatability with GB and GB (v.nice) etc. Though it looks pretty ugly to me. I hate that cheap looking blocko-plast.
The PSP, well very nice widescreen, 1.8Gb UMDs, nice layout, looks really sleek, USB 2.0, 802.11b wireless, music and movies too. Ooooh, just saw the UMD for GT4 Mobile, Shiiiiiny.
Both looking really good. I think price maybe the deciding factor here....well it will be for me anyway...(and the PSP dosn't look cheap <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I'd post the pics but they're pretty big and it seems gamespots having troubles as it is. So go clicky.
*Edit* In terms of specs theres not much to go on. But the PSP seems to be roughly PS 1.65 in terms of power. Although there no game demos at the mo. DS looks pretty lovely though. (about last gen of PS1 games quality)
<a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/11/news_6097116.html' target='_blank'>PSP</a>
<a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/11/news_6097113.html' target='_blank'>DS</a>
I'm pretty impressed by them both, the DS has alot more features than i thought it would, proprietry Wi-fi, standard wi-fi, backwards compatability with GB and GB (v.nice) etc. Though it looks pretty ugly to me. I hate that cheap looking blocko-plast.
The PSP, well very nice widescreen, 1.8Gb UMDs, nice layout, looks really sleek, USB 2.0, 802.11b wireless, music and movies too. Ooooh, just saw the UMD for GT4 Mobile, Shiiiiiny.
Both looking really good. I think price maybe the deciding factor here....well it will be for me anyway...(and the PSP dosn't look cheap <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I'd post the pics but they're pretty big and it seems gamespots having troubles as it is. So go clicky.
*Edit* In terms of specs theres not much to go on. But the PSP seems to be roughly PS 1.65 in terms of power. Although there no game demos at the mo. DS looks pretty lovely though. (about last gen of PS1 games quality)
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Here I thought PSP is gonna be light-year ahead of DS in term of graphic.
Kudo to nintendo on still being a threat to Sony domination.
Yes I am that much of a zelda addict. What can I say, link's a hottie.
I must...have..more...zelda....
And nintendo is of course keeping fairly quiet on that front, although there are of course Pokemon red/green, Metroid Prime Hunters, New zelda and a few mario game on the way and any developers asked about the DS gave a hearty response of "Huh...? Oh the DS, Um...yeah sure. Why not"
*Edit* Oh like flint just said Warioware too. God I love that game so much.
As for VJ never played it, need to though. Bah it's a tricky choice. Damn you Sony and Nintendo...release a single format ...<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Off to hibernate until the DS is released. Change my slacks every now and then, won't you? Bye!
<edit>The DS page isn't loading for me, anyone care to post a picture?</edit>
check out gamespy's articles on DS's games.
The DS is.. well. Disappointing. Its mostly like a portable N64, which if you didn't like the N64 (as I didn't), that's not a good thing. And reading about how Metroid Prime Hunters (a dumb name that bastardizes everything about Metroid) controls, you "mouselook" with the STYLUS, I really don't have much faith in the system. The whole thing just screams gimmick. I mean I'm still interested to see how it turns out, I just hope it doesn't turn into a Virtual Boy 2...
Also, I couldn't but help laugh at this, but I guess Sony expects an <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/11/screens_6097116.html?page=7' target='_blank'>increase in stair-related injuries</a>. :P
I really hope Super Mario 64x4 has the original single player game in it as well... dear god that would be awesome...
Warioware DS seems like a blast as well!
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Metal Gear Acid officially announced.
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Mmmm.....
Damn.....so badly want...
1) I like the underdog. Nintendo used to be the big bullies, now they aren't.
2) The PSP is poorly designed. Looks like Retro version of the Atari Lynx. It also looks as if Sony is about to make the same design mistakes as nintendo did. The horizontal layout isn't comfortable for gaming when hand held.
There's going to be SCRATCHES on that screen. The clamshell design is much better for a portable console due to the wear and tear it will suffer. I'm glad nintendo went with that. Battery life of PSP is supposedly "low" while its "high" for the DS.
3) PSP game library seems like a regurgitated PSone/PS2. There will be new interesting titles at launch for DS, next to semi-reguritated N64 games (like Mario 64x4).
4) back catalog for DS with old GBA games. Cool.
5) Price. Rumours has it that the PSP will be very expensive, DS will be price around the GBA SP, perhaps a bit more expensive.
6) Games will be cheaper for DS, or at least they can be manufactured for less cost (doesn't say that they will lower prices for games, however)
7) PSP is just another console for handheld, the DS has its two screens and touch pad. I look forward to see what will come of it.
8) Nintendo makes great games for "on the road". Loads of their GBA games just are good for the 5-20 minute gaming session that a short or long commute ride allows for. Sony will have to learn to make genuine games for their handheld, not just PS/PS2 ports.
I'm betting my money on the DS.
At that point, my lack of a GBA SP will make me the happiest man on the planet, and I will buy a DS as soon as it hits shelves.
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Its on the first page of the hands-on
i hope they start taking pre-orders soon, and i hope it's like when i got Zelda:ww, there were like 40 people crammed into a tiny shop(its a damn good shop) with the van driving up the road.... it was fun.
Nintendo really cleaned up at this E3, i'd have to say a job well done.
The PSP isn't original, nintendo IS the handheld market
The PSP is simply amazing. I can't really put it any other way. The thing just kicks ****. Only part that sucks is the 2 hours of battery life, they need to fix that asap.
The DS, well, my opinion is still out on that one. It has a "N64 in your pocket" vibe, and considering I hated the N64, that's not a good thing. I dunno, just from what I hear about the stylus being a primary means of controlling games, that just screams cheesy gimmick. I mean who the hell wants to use a stylus to mouselook in a FPS game?? Not me...
As for the touch screen... is it gimmicky? Maybe. Probably not always. The way I see it, it's almost necessary. One of the few annoyances I have with Crystal Chronicles is having to hit a button to switch control between the main screen and my GBA screen... with a touch-sensitive pad, there's no need to switch. You just reach your thumb over and hit whatever it is needs hitting.
All in all, I'm really looking forward to it. A lot more than the PSP, actually... compare:
DS: GBA compatible, so standing library of 500+ games
PSP: new console, very few games available.
(compare the PS2 and Xbox launches - Sony had the upper hand for the same reason).
DS: innovative dual-screen format, ergonomics similar to the original GBA (I always thought the SP was a little cramped)
PSP: wide-screen is new but not innovative. to be seen if extra-wide handheld is comfortable or not.
DS: 10 hour battery life. Probably will have an SP-like built-in rechargeable battery.
PSP: 2 hour battery life. Poo.
DS: $100-150
PSP: $300
(projected prices; just what I've heard)
I'm not sure how the PSP's networking works, but it says it has infrared and wireless (802.11b) capability as well as USB 2.0. The DS has a built-in wireless capability that allows up to 16 players in a 100ft radius to play or chat together, as well as a cellular-like wireless feature.
DS: voice-recognition.
DS: touchpad.
DS: clamshell design protects the screens.
DS: smaller case = more transportable
PSP: It's about 7" wide, at least. They actually put a ring on it to hang it from a lanyard... can you imagine something that size dangling around your neck? Bleh. If the DS is built anything like the SP, it's extremely durable. If the PSP is built anything like the PS1 or PS2, it'll break if you look at it wrong. /:
All in all, I'd say the DS is the much more interesting and innovative design, and with the given features at the given price points, an infinitely better value. Is it as pretty as the PSP? No, but it's no slouch either. Is it going to revolutionize gaming? Yes. Or should I say (for Nintendo), "yes... again."
1.) The power button is a button, not a switch. Guess what happens when you throw it in your backpack between lectures for example.... gonna turn on and drain the battery
2.) Wide-screen = more screen to scratch, and no way to protect it
3.) Movie playback. Ok well done. Now I gotta go out and buy the movies I like in minidisc format, hence spending more money before I can fully utilise and appreciate this feature.
That said it's essentially just a system where Sony are porting all their games onto.... way to innovate the industry and try to steal some of Nintendo's Market Pie~
EDIT: That's not to say I think it's a bad idea. I just think it's poorly executed and won't hold a candle to the DS.
PSP: new console, very few games available.
(compare the PS2 and Xbox launches - Sony had the upper hand for the same reason).
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While not all of these will make it outside of Japan. The PSP had 49+ games already announced in development and support from 100ish worldwide developers.
But some games we can probably expect around the launch are:
Viewtiful Joe
Gran Turismo 4
Metal Gear Acid
Tony Hawks Underground 2
Devil May Cry
and to be honest, while the DS has the back catalogue, many people could just keep their GBA and buy a PSP aswell.
Personally I think that theres no reason why both can't be a success as they are aiming for a slightly different market.
Sony has announced that it is definatly aiming for the 18-35 age range (AKA current PS2 owners and a fairly low market penetration for handhelds) and we all know that Nintendo does well with the lower age ranges and I can't see them changing that.
Still both have their good point's but like Doom said, it seems like a portable N64 and apart from Warioware and Advance (DS?) Wars, Nintendo's main licenses (Zelda, Metroid, pokemon, Mario Kart) have never held any appeal for me.
Of course if Rockstar announce a Wireless Multiplayer GTA for the PSP, then I'm sold...<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Zaheera:Go on.
PsychoJ:PSP is like a hot girl with full round C cup breasts.
PsychoJ:Is experienced and has alot to offer for relatively little effort.
Zaheera:And the DS?
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Maybe I'm more excited about the DS than I should be but the touchscreen 'gimick' opens new doors never even seen before on a console to me. They've basically just given you a panel that can change to any control figuration of buttons or sliders you want or a display or both... you could even use it as a mini-keyboard or something o.O
and it looks like the kind of screen that scratches easily, and seeig as how big the thing is, it ooks like it would be easy to drop
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It has a big strap you put around your neck to carry it. Looks sasy to grab too! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
82mm(L) x 145mm(W) x 25mm(D)
PSP
74mm(L) x 170mm(W) x 23mm (D)
GBA SP (Closed)
83mm(L) x 82mm(W) x 24mm(D)
N-Gage
133.7 x 69.7 x 20.2mm
Couldn't find any info on the DS though, but it looks about the width as the GBA but thicker.
I can tell the chat thingy'll be handy for people in school/university XD