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HaZy · October 2002

and to think i praised their mod in the ns irc room a couple of times...

<a href="http://www.aq2zone.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=008027" target="_blank">http://www.aq2zone.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=008027</a>

that Nighthawk and Gage have got some mouth on them... <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

richard_of_richardland · October 2002

They're all making fair comments, what's the problem?

Bill · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (richard_of_richardland @ Oct. 26 2002,08:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They're all making fair comments, what's the problem?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Um no, they're being babies over using the term "going gold". Maybe they're not extremely harsh comments, but they seem pretty torn up over the whole ordeal, and for no logical reason(unless you can supply one?). They simply used the term because in the gaming community "going gold" is synonymous with a close release.

Honestly, this whole elitist attitude in Half-Life mod communities is so pathetic, a lot of times it's worse than the "Counter-Strike n00bz" they all complain about so much. I think the funniest comment is from "Payback", he insinuates that they make up their news as a sales tactic. We can only hope he's joking.

richard_of_richardland · October 2002

News is a sales tactic in a way, I mean if news didn't get people interested in NS you wouldn't post it over all the news sites.

I think you're taking that to be something that is wrong or bad, when trying to 'sell' (not in the literal sense) a mod is a good thing.

humbaba · October 2002

Insane pretty much summed it up.

TychoCelchuuu · October 2002

Uhm, I think you people are a little too touchy. I myself think the gold thing is sort of silly, and you are going banzai on these guys just because they don't worship the ground the mod walks on (uh, metaphorically). Saying something bad about something that doesn't make sense to you isn't bad.

Bill · October 2002

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is something to get up in arms about at all, I just think they're being a bit immature. They're not even criticizing the actual game, they're putting them down for simply using the term "gold" with a mod. Doesn't really matter though, and in reality it's kind of a compliment to Natural-Selection if that's the only thing people can criticize.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">News is a sales tactic in a way, I mean if news didn't get people interested in NS you wouldn't post it over all the news sites.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I was referring to the fact that they seem to think the team invents news for publicity.

Fam · October 2002

The phrase "6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other" comes to mind. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

(Edit: Apart from the bit about the IRC channel of course.)

Sgt_X · October 2002

I personaly want to thank Insane for that bit of damage control, GJ.

HaZy · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Bill @ Oct. 27 2002,01:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They're not even criticizing the actual game, they're putting them down for simply using the term "gold" with a mod.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
maybe they're just jealous of natural selection as a whole and can't think up of one bad thing to say about it. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

in any case, bupkus to them! thats the last time i go around pimping their mod! <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

edit: just noticed insane's post. nice save. i should've thought of that... <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Venmoch · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (st@r69 @ Oct. 26 2002,12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">maybe they're just jealous of natural selection as a whole and can't think up of one bad thing to say about it. ;)

in any case, bupkus to them! thats the last time i go around pimping their mod! :p

edit: just noticed insane's post. nice save. i should've thought of that... ;)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Action Half-Life is one of the most underated mods EVER!

I left at Beta 3 and decieded (In my wait for NS) to come back to it! (It even gave me an excuse to go through Half-Life again, Woo Bullet-time and the Handcannon!)

I don't know, theres something real classy about taking someone down while diving through a glass window away from a grenade, or is that just me?

HaZy · October 2002

i won't deny i don't like ahl as im a big fan of action movies. in fact for all u aussie ahl players out there go check out <a href="http://action.axg.net." target="_blank">http://action.axg.net.</a> its home of australia's best ahl clan and where the majority of the aussie ahl community (as small as it is) hangs out at the forums. including moi. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

anyway, yeah ahl is a cool mod, i play it every now and again but ya gotta admit these guys are being a bit immature. i guess we'll see if they're bullheadedness (is that even a word?) doesn't subside once ns is released. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Insane · October 2002

Yeah...

I just figured that someone was needed to clear things up.

HBNayr · October 2002

They do raise at least one very real concern.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And as for the commander... itll be like playing RTCW with only 1 liutenat per team.

Need armor plz! Need gunz plz! Where si teh portal?!?

Im guessing the commander will get ###### off extremely quickly on a public server, as wil lany players who join late and so dont get any gear.

Still, Ive been wrong before. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

-Ryan!

Did you ever walk in a room and forget why you walked in? I think that's how dogs spend their lives.
-- Sue Murphy

Bill · October 2002

Not really, the two games have very little in common, and the commander mode will appeal to a certain type of gamer that can handle that type of gameplay anyways. Even if there are very few of those kind of gamers out there that's fine, because there is only 1 commander per server anyways. The quote man has never heard the saying, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the commander seat"? Well okay, I made that up, but it applies none the less.

I have a new favorite quote from that thread:

"Where's the predators"

Hah-hah-hah because we all know A vs P is the ONLY game that features aliens fighting humans, and that Natural-Selection is obviously ripping them off. *cough*

saint0z · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Insane @ Oct. 26 2002,17:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah...

I just figured that someone was needed to clear things up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Props to Insane for wading throught those flames...

Rob · October 2002

I like this discussion, can't say I agree with our friends at AHL, but hey, I'm a moderator of the NS forums for chipe's sake.

Just keep it professional, I really don't want to have to lock this. In their defense, I'm pretty sure they just don't know how involved the NS gameplay is. The commander-marine relationship is a fairly new concept, and it goes deeper than most people can imagine before they see it.

Spyder_Monkey · October 2002

^^^What he said, only I'm not going to hesitate to lock this the second it turns ugly. Keep it professional, and please... no mod bashing.

Eos · October 2002

Definition of "ugly" please.

This thread is half way there.

Brutus · October 2002

I didn't read anything to bad over there, or in here.

They have fanatical AHL fans just as NS has fanatical fans.

At least it isn't the CS bashing that you get on the BF1942 forums.

loofbote · October 2002

They are like most people that dont know about the mod: They hear a little about it and think its like CS with a little changes and they think its bad(cs because everyones played that and because they think others copy it to be good lol). They just need to be told everything and shown everything and they be hooked. When i first saw ns i read nothing, I thought it was a dm with some humans verse some aliens, I thought there was a 1player mode too(heh i read nothing) but then when i was bored and got a big push from people in lots of other forums i started to read it all and got hooked on ns. I mean people dont know about it and since the ns dev team isnt getting paid they think its bad so just let them know a lot about the mod and if they think its something different correct them and give them some more info and screen shots. Like if they say "commander mode sounds dumb, a guy that just can buy a couple of guns, You would say "no they can buy/make everything and they build stuff Then you would show them a screenshot of commander mode building a building.(Only a playtester can show that tho until its released.)

Bill · October 2002

Well I tried explaining the concept of the commander to "Seymoure Gibbs", but it was like explaining that Jewish people ARE A-OKAY to a Nazi.

loofbote · October 2002

lol maybe use teh screenshots! heh yea i read it he didnt understand, his mind is on teh cs!

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