Fade Movement Upgrade

ShotgunEdShotgunEd Join Date: 2004-01-02 Member: 24966Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Silence, Celerity or Adrenaline</div> Assume you have 2 hives, DC's and MC's. Which MC upgrade do you take?

I used to adore celerity because that extra speed is awesome and means those jumping marines have no chance of getting away from you. Should trouble appear then that extra blink speed comes in handy. The big draw back is that you have to manage your adrenaline quite well lest you try and blink away with nothing left, which I'll admit is possible but has also been the death of me too many times. Celerity in my opinion is great for quick in and out strikes.

Adrenaline is now my choice of upgrade though simply because you can do crazy blinking manouvers. A tall room is just a dream when you have adrenaline. Blink in, hit, blink up and to the side, blink back towards then, hit and repeat. Most marines won't have a clue what to do or a chance in hell. You also never have the problem of running out of energy to blink (You can fly if you have adren). Some jumping marines can cause some problems though which is just countered by blinking really.

Now silence I've tried experimenting with and often you get some nice benafit out of it, even if they have MT. You come up behind a marine start swiping and its almost by the 2nd swipe that they realise whats going on. His team mates don't have a clue whats going on until he starts spraying madly. Its great for ambushing marines and can cause a lot of confussion. Useless in my opinion for attacking outposts and end game because sight is all they need to know your coming.

As I said I almost always pick adrenaline but I'm interested in what the rest of you use and why?

Also do you think certain MC upgrades work better with different DC? For instance Celerity and Cara, for the tank fade. Adrenaline and Regen for the ever present fade. Even Silence and Redemption for the silent dissapearing fade.

As a seperate point... You have 1 hive and 3 MC's, which upgrade do you choose?

Silence is probably most effective at the start of a game.
Adrenaline will make sure you can get out of there.
Celerity again for quick strikes then back to the hive to heal in no time.

So far I've used silence to best effect

Comments

  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited May 2004
    Celerity. Speed is most anything the Fade has. And while Adrens energy can be converted into speed too, that just doesnt happen as universally as with Celerity. Moreover, you can almost constantly blink with Cel too - just Fade-pancaking doesn't work quite right with Cel, thats its biggest drawback. Anything else you can pretty much do with a bit of midflight Metab.

    Although, if I'm just a backup Fade and not a primary, Adren to fight near a Hive is pretty fun. Its main disadvantage, lower speed, is really secondary when you're just flying circles around the Hive and coming back down to swipe Heavys again once you're at full health. But honestly, in all other situations its just a bit icky having less speed vs heavy weaponry.

    Silence is sweet too, but while you get in a bit easier, getting away will be like you're a standard Hive 1 DC Fade. Makes you less effective against those focused assaults that are already a Fades worst nightmare. But its hours of fun on pubs <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    Celerity. For one I feel like a sitting duck vs shotgunners without celerity, sure blinking works, but ultimately you'll have to run for a short while if you don't time the swipe perfectly.
  • SkydancerSkydancer Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14959Members, Constellation
    Celerity. Now that metabolize gives back stamina I can enter the fight, swipe a little, run, metabolize 2 times and I'm ready with full stamina again.
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    What they said. It's tricky to time metabolize and switch back to blink/swipe , but the speed advantage is well worth it. Adren is only useful with just 1 hive remaining.
  • SkydancerSkydancer Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14959Members, Constellation
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  • jamespsxjamespsx Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
    adren, i like pancaking rines with regen (they try and shoot u but ur already out of there sight lol)

    iv tryed silence and cel before and silence is ace if ur a assasin kinda player, but celerity is best if u wanna break group of marines into seperate, smaller groups...

    off-topic;
    whats the best upgrades for fade in combat??? once u have those last points after u have just faded without any other upgrades, what should u get first, second, thrid etc... i allways own as a skulk in combat... as u can c from my sig if i cen get piccy on there (p.s. 2 had hmg's 1 had gl and other had lmg... plus they were in a group around corner lol)
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Adren and Cara for me. I go Fade very late game, when there's no need for my gorging skills.

    I take adren so I can spam meta and blink swiping. I take cara so that I can take that little bit more damage from marines if I get trapped/screw up. With adren, meta healing is very effective, and at mid-late game you can almost guarantee a DC near you anyway.



    Early game my choices would change, but I rarely if ever go Fade in the early game. Much more useful as a gorge.
  • ShotgunEdShotgunEd Join Date: 2004-01-02 Member: 24966Members
    edited May 2004
    Metabing during blinking isn't a problem. Your style of fading will choose your upgrade. For instance I love adren because i can blink in and hit a few times, blink away, then reverse and blink back in hit, run away, metab maybe once then blink back in. You simply can't do that with celerity, your adren goes down to fast.

    I find with celerity you kind of have to blink in one direction, you can't do zig zag blinking which adrenaline lets you.

    Thinking about it, I think celerity fades and adren fades are like sg's and hmg's. Both are great, but are so much better when deployed together...

    EDIT: Perhaps I should use the word think a bit more :/
  • e_Nadagaste_Nadagast Join Date: 2003-10-30 Member: 22149Members
    Celerity is much better imho <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    I use adren because I'm not leet with meta yet. I like not having to think about meta except to speed my health recovery. Barely use it really. Adren lets me cut zigzags easy, and I never run out of energy swiping things. Plus if we get a third hive before I die and respawn as a skulk, adren means I get to spam bilebomb. :D
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    I've actually never tried being a silenced fade, but I know what it feels like being on the other end of a silenced attack, scary shite right there for low-level rines.

    And I still enjoy celerity fade, meta does the job almost as well as adren.

    And hive 1 fade...never. I'm saving for the second hive, or putting up rts or chambers or something. Only when I'm the ONLY one with res and a fade is desperately needed do I fade with one hive.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Silenced cloaked Fades are the ambush gods of NS. I've seen then snipe off whole squads. Its not pretty.

    Early game they're terrifying. Late game they're a bit of waste unless you're *very* good or have a death wish. Only problem is once they spot you, you're dead. Or at the very least 2 miles from the nearest hive with no way to heal.

    However, worth it for the 5 minutes of fun you have chuckling around marines before dicing them like carrots.



    Silence itself is nice if you don't need adren or celer. If you've got good gorges, and you plan to snipe ninjas/scouts, then silence can help. I'd probably team it with regen since without adren metahealing will take a looong while. Just remember the marines will get wise to you, and if you attack a group then silence won't help hide the sound of gunfire from the marine you're killing.
  • NukeAJSNukeAJS Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28443Members
    Celerity is my top choice. Blink/meta/swipe/swipe/blink/blink/meta/meta is just far superior with celerity than adrenline.

    Silence is truly **** until they get MT and constantly have their map up making an ambush darn near impossible. Swipe, swipe, gun falls down, swipe, swipe, gun falls, swipe, swipe, gun falls and marines finally realize WTH is going on.

    Adrenline is nice if you can not switch your weapons like a crazed idiot =-p.
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