Forgive Me Post

NzNexus · May 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Im sorry</div> Im sorry. Very sorry for decompiling..My first decompile was ns_veil and then it was ns_nothing. Im so sorry and the last was my own map using Dave Js Open source.

I am so sorry. I cant explain how sorry i am.

Moderators Forgive me. People forgive me.
Thursday- forgive, i was very stupid.
JezPuh..forgive me please. I never do that again. I promess.
Mendasp forgive me for powerhouse project, my topics allways ends with "locked"
Shdwstal forgive me for never finnish my maps.
NS Comunitty Forgive me For decompiling others work
Map authors fogive me. I never gonna do that again. Now i promess never again!
Sorry, i was a very stupid person who decompiled and copyed others work.
Now for last time i have understand that it dont makes anything, only flaming what push me down.

I apologize so much for all my unuseful posts and unfinnished maps i maked and decompiled and copyed and used for my self own maps.

<span style='color:red'>I'm very sorry! Please : Forgive Me.... </span><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

I need some person who helps me with mapping, i cant make it yet by my self.
I dont get any ideas to a map. Someone help me plz and someone explain me plz how to make a nice map. I allways want to make a map but allways faills..So hard to tell you all why..I'm sorry forgive me. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> I mean this!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Lazer · May 2004

Well you could TRY to make your own map. If you can't get ideas just look at other maps and see what looks nice and then don't copy, but use the same techniques that they use and you might find yourself mapping better.

Olmy · May 2004

It's not just decompiling nexus, but use of open source maps without saying what they are, claiming they are you own work. You have to understand where people are coming from with this. If you made a map that took you a long time to complete, wouldn't you find it awful if someone started tampering with it, or claiming to start a project to complete one of their maps (no matter how good your intentions may have been). Just... try... to make your own work. Showing editor shots of your future work may help to convince people you are doing your own thing (decompiled maps look different when loaded into hammer because each face in game gets a brush when decompiled).

Mendasp · May 2004

Why would I have to forgive you? You made the most hilarious thread ever! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> (that's a good thing)

Epidemic · May 2004

Man, he only wanted the best and you act like ken's old half-finished map was godiva himself.

Coblet · May 2004

Why do you bother posting these things? All you are doing is pointlessly confirming what we already new - you decompile maps or just use other people's work. If you want my advice it would be one of three things:

1. Develop your English but don't bother posting for a while (say 4 months)
2. Learn to make your own maps and improve your technique, in conjunction with point one
3. Come back under another name, in conjunction with points one and two.

moultano · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 24 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I dont get any ideas to a map. Someone help me plz and someone explain me plz how to make a nice map. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If lack of ideas is a problem for you, I find the best thing is to come up with a unifying concept for the map. Figure out why that place exists/ what its used for. Once you've done that, you can figure out what types of locations they would need. Just make a big list of those. Once you've done that, take your list and pick the ones you think would be most compelling in a map and design a layout with them. From here I'd say there are two options. You can start making one of those rooms that you have a good visual image of, and then when completed take elements of that style to influence the rest of your map. You can also start by defining the style that you are going for through a few sample rooms or halways and then designing your rooms to fit within that style. All of this is made a lot easier by knowing what each place in your map is there for in the game universe.
good luck! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Why do you bother posting these things? All you are doing is pointlessly confirming what we already new - you decompile maps or just use other people's work.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
He has the dignity to apologize. I value that and think more of him because of it. Don't be so rough on him.

DrunkenMonkey · May 2004

If you want help with mapping, I suggest you visit:
<a href='http://www.leveldesign.nu/' target='_blank'>Leveldesign.nu</a>
They got loads of guides in Swedish, and a friendly forum too if you got mapping-questions. I've learned a great deal from those guys.
Looking forward to see some of <u>your own</u> work soon. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Once_Only · May 2004

Dont worry nexus, I still love you <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

Keep up the mapping, and work on the english, and then mabye you could really make a name for yourself.

marcos · May 2004

I think you put too high goals for yourself.
Mapping takes time, and it takes a awefull long time to get good at it (but sometimes ppl like Drunken Monkey shows up <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />~ )
Just read tutorlials and map some sort of maps without realisng them untill your work satisfy you. Pluss if you are new to mapping (about 1 year experiense) map something else then NS. NS mapping is hard and it takes time.

Decompiling maps is a evidense that you are not very creative. Play some games, look at art, play other maps, draw a layout to get inspiration before you start mapping.

Clem · May 2004

I don't get it why some of you people start flameing him again. I mean give me a freaking break. He made a mistake, yes he did. But at least he is man enough to appologize for it. Everyone is makeing mistakes so get over it and accept his appology. Don't become flamers like all those cs kiddes.

ShenTraX · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clem @ May 24 2004, 11:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don't get it why some of you people start flameing him again. I mean give me a freaking break. He made a mistake, yes he did. But at least he is man enough to appologize for it. Everyone is makeing mistakes so get over it and accept his appology. Don't become flamers like all those cs kiddes.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
yar... where you been? this is like his 3rd apology...

Olmy · May 2004

He seems to be admitting his own failings though. Not that i am particularly getting my hopes up.

statusq · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShenTraX @ May 24 2004, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yar... where you been? this is like his 3rd apology...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
So does it make it any worse? He realises he has done stupid things, admits it, and still everyone just has to flame him because they are so used to it. Same people over and over again, word after word, just flaming. None of you is a saint, so please don't act like one. I have no hard feelings against Nexus anymore, now I am only ashamed because of you people. Get over it, seriously.

Delarosa · May 2004

nexus, as we've said before... don't do it again..

you can use other maps as "insperation".. but please, delete the decompiler, and re-make them by hand.

<span style='color:red'>**LOCKED**</span> (flame prevention)

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