Welders

SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
edited May 2004 in Frontiersmen Strategy
<div class="IPBDescription">Overlooked</div> NS has been out a long time. And yet, welders (one of the most useful marine tools by far) are still widely shunned.

<u>1. Medpacks aren't so great.</u>

Oh, sure, they think they're <i>soooooo </i>classy with their 2 res cost and ability to drop mostly anywhere. Well, I got news for you, <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>; you can only bring a marine up to 100 hp. If he has no armour, he'll still die in two bites. If the marine's on 25 hp, he'll still die from one bite even after recieving a single medpack.

Although they'll never admit it, medpacks need a welder to make a marine withstand 3 or 4 hits once again. And welders can be reused. <i>That's </i>usefulness. <i>That's </i>awesome. <i>That's</i>.....<b>the welder</b>.

<u>2. Buildings aren't the only benefactors from a welder!</u>

Sure, it fixes them up reeeeeal purty-like (something a <i>med-pack </i>won't do, I might add). Use them to repair your buddies, too! Come on, coms: they only cost 5 res! And as for combat, it's one upgrade level that will make you the most popular human on the server!

<u>3. Don't neglect your welder!</u>

Often, the com will drop one single, measly welder. The Law of Welders dictates that "<i>the one person most likely to not use the welder will be the one to pick it up, hoping it's a shotgun</i>". <b>Don't be that chump</b>! Welders are like precious children; they need love, attention and nanites to become useful in any way!

<u>4.</u> <span style='color:blue'>shiny</span>

<u>5. Don't abuse your welder!</u>

This is most often the case with HA trains. The marvellous powers of the welders is addictive; if one HA gets his welder out, everyone else will follow suit, in a beautiful orgy of weldering. However, despite their winsome ways, welders are not good as an offensive tool. Please use your welder correctly, and don't let it be tarnished by the blood of welder-ecstacied fools.




Spread the word! Make people aware of the welder's potential! Make coms aware of its joys! Stick a [Welderer] tag onto your name, and show that you (yes, <i>you</i>) are a great person.

Comments

  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    Heh, nothing more annoying than dropping a welder to base, one marine runs over it, and POOF: "What welder, commander?" Most people just don't use welders when they have a chance, or check if someone has less than 50% of armor left...
  • HydraHydra Join Date: 2003-06-14 Member: 17366Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    YES! Totally agree, USE THE SHINY WELDER! Imagine how much res the comm will save on medpacks, 5 medpacks = shotgun, simple math for rambos who are too busy dying.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    mmmm shiny welders. shinyshinyshiny!!!

    is true though - i love welding marines, and i love it even more when marines weld you.. is such a good feeling going from damaged from battle back to being as good as you were when you spawned
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    Maybe there should be a "welder" icon, the same way you get one for HA or JP. That way, people who never scroll through the weapons (fastswitch and use of slot1/slot2 commands) will know that they have one of these darlings.

    And if there was some way to tell whether a marine had a welder on him other than when he's using it, maybe people could ask that marine for welding if he isn't doing his job.

    And it would help if those marines had a quick way to say, "Weld me!" other than by typing it out (ignored or lost among spam) or using the mic (ignored or indecipherable).

    So, yeah. Devs, coms, grunts...welcome the welder into your hearts.
  • Mr_ChuckletrousersMr_Chuckletrousers Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28799Members
    I like your style, Snidely.

    This has been said before, I'm quoting this :" If you have a welder on your hands, there is no reason why all Marines around you shouldn't have 100% armor all the time."

    An unused welder is a wasted welder.
  • rockst4rrockst4r Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19682Members
    listen to him and spread the word...

    perhaps we need a little bit more bling bling on the welder <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-shanks+May 24 2004, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (shanks @ May 24 2004, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> is true though - i love welding marines, and i love it even more when marines weld you.. is such a good feeling going from damaged from battle back to being as good as you were when you spawned <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aye, now if only welder's removed parasite too...fresh marines... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    How would a welder remove parasite? By welding surgical operation... bloody...

    Yeha welders are very overlooked sadly enough, I usually pick one when I have 1 cO point left... I pick the shiny... my shiny... MY SHINY
  • CrazySailorCrazySailor Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28510Members
    i always loved the welder, but the problem is chasing my teammates in co maps when they r too busy trying to get frags...looks like they don't want to have full armor, cept for the odd HA
  • rockst4rrockst4r Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19682Members
    i personally like circlestrafing the armory when its full of humpers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    As we can see in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70981&st=45' target='_blank'>this</a> off-topic thread my deft rememberence of the welder has made it best the 'hookshot' as the best item/weapon combination of all time (albeit that the welder does very little damage - if any anymore).

    When I've got a welder: weldings all around. I rarely comm though, so I can't really say much for dropping them often (I usually only see 2 or 3 dropped until HA comes along).

    You also forgot that they can block off important parts of levels, which can be very important (like the vent in reactor room, or the vent in sewer, or the one leading to base (hey...I actually remember that one's map name, ns_eclipse! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->).
    [...pffft, names are so hard to match with maps <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]

    Welder ?ber alles!
    ...or something.
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    you've been pubin again i see
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How would a welder remove parasite? By welding surgical operation... bloody...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe the parasite isn't in the marine, but in the armor? A tiny blob of bacteria between the layers of nano-kevlar, flamed out when welder fixes it?
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    I agree. Make sure to use your welder in your teammates face all the time, they will appreciate you for this.

    "Do you need welding now? Do you need welding now? Do you need welding now? How about now? Do you need welding now? Now? Do you need welding now? What about now? Do you need welding now?"
  • tanathostanathos Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4949Members
    I played a game once in wich the commander handed out welders to everybody at the start. We all moved as a group (I think we were 5 or 6) and proceeded to capture the hives. Of course there was the random skulk here and there, but as soon as we finished splattering it's gut all over the ground, we welded ourself back at 100 and our commander dropped medpacks for those concerned. Never ever seen an easier game. Oh.. and then the shotguns came...
  • SilverwingSilverwing bulletsponge Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23395Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tails+May 24 2004, 11:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tails @ May 24 2004, 11:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How would a welder remove parasite? By welding surgical operation... bloody...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe the parasite isn't in the marine, but in the armor? A tiny blob of bacteria between the layers of nano-kevlar, flamed out when welder fixes it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope, it's gotta be <i>in</i> the marine. Look at the "Parasite-kill" icon... The critter actually <i>enters</i> the skull of its victim.

    /silverwing
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's usefulness. That's awesome. That's.....the welder.
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    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    Welders are awesome, but like teamwork on most pubs either needs to be enforced with an iron fist by the commandant or it is non existant. Basically the commander needs to only hand out two welders, or two welders per group, but lets say for one group. Then the two welder guys can weld eachothers armor, and everyone elses. I played a game on metal, and started out as the only welder on my team. Me and this other guy made it to a building hive, and the comm dropped us an armory. He dropped both of us shotguns, and the other guy a welder. We blew the hive away, killed a fade, and welded eachother. From then on we stuck together the rest of the game, and neither of us died. Welders = GG aliens for any type of marines, LA or HA.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Welders unfortunatly are only as good as the marines that wield them.
  • e_Nadagaste_Nadagast Join Date: 2003-10-30 Member: 22149Members
    Ah, and they say clanners are all selfish ramboes!
  • Red_SquirrelRed_Squirrel Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24414Members
    There should be a global upgrade like or even combined with the grenade so every marine gets given a welder when they spawn.
  • SADE-yXSADE-yX Join Date: 2003-08-30 Member: 20392Members
    yea, no doubt welders are usfull for everything mentioned.. but noone has yet mentioned about all the lovley gadgets around the map that you can weld!

    I love weld-shutting vents!

    give one or two welders and one or two shot guns at the very beggining, send everyone in a group to get res points, soon pwn the aliens <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    SADE-yX
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <span style='color:white'>***Moved.***</span>
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SADE-yX+May 25 2004, 01:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SADE-yX @ May 25 2004, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love weld-shutting vents!
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    I'm a bit weary of welding any old vent these days, you never know if they might be handy for jetpackers.
  • RushakraRushakra Join Date: 2004-03-25 Member: 27523Members
    Hi, my name is Rushakra, and.. I am a Welder Addict. (Hi Rushakra~)

    I have a welder story to share.
    ns_tanith. Blueblurr (let's play some tetris mother@#$%er!) is clamoring for a welder and our nice comm drops one. He runs out to weld everything on the map, and I follow. We locked down Satcomm and Cargo, killing about 20 skulks in the process, all because of our wonderful welder. Skulk dies, weld up. We switched it back and forth and kept each other at full armor. Blue eventually got raped in double by a bunch of OCs and a tricky little skulk, but such was our love for the welder that I dashed back in, killed a Gorge, hopped over the OCs, and made my way out with just TWO hp and boogied back to base.

    The welder is awesome. Remember to use the buddy system with it!
  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    I once gave two good players a shotgun and welder each on ns_nothing. whee, they kept 7 aliens locked in cargo. the only ones who got out, were the ones who used that vent leading to viaduct access west.
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