Assault Rifle: Hechler & Koch G36K (the beta-c variant is extra nice. it's on securityarms.com) runner up: Steyr AUG second runner up: M4 with doodads attached
Machinegun: Old-style M60 with a rusting bipod. Bullets hanging off the side = must. runner up: M249
Sub Machinegun: Fabrique Nationale F-2000 modular! WOOOOOOOOOT!!!! runner up: FN P90
Pistol: All pistols look the same to me, bah. I'd go with any pistol with extra doodads (flashlight, LAM, grenade launchers). Except I HATE revolvers. Yuck!
Sniping Rifle: Barrett Light Fifty, because it looks awesome and is totally hardcore. runner up: H&K SL-8. Looks cool.
Anti-materiel Rifle: Dunno what one of those are.
Big Gun: Flamethrower! wooo! runner up: Stinger Missile
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<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 04:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, metal was invented for the sole purpose of swords.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jun 5 2004, 05:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jun 5 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 04:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, metal was invented for the sole purpose of swords. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> well, almost
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I never said they were.
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
<!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 07:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I never said they were. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think that's guilty's problem.
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst & Gemuese+Jun 6 2004, 12:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst & Gemuese @ Jun 6 2004, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Windelkron+Jun 6 2004, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Jun 6 2004, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Assault Rifle: Hechler & Koch G36K <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ... Please. One more Hec<b>h</b>ler & Koch, and I'll kill a kitty.... with my bare hands.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hey, I just quoted the original post, and I happened to agree with him on the g36k <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I admire guns not because they were designed to kill people (I despise them in that way) but because I recognize their blend of aesthetic and power. Its like the sleek, curvy assassin in movies. So smooth but underneath that there's undeniable power, there's real worksmanship, determination, and function. I admire how a gun incorporates ergonomics, looks, and purpose. That's it, purpose. I look at a gun and I see that every little knob has a purpose - a fire selector, an adjustable sight - and then when you zoom out all of those little details become tiny, and they're part of a bigger idea, a conglomeration of purpose and visceral fulfillment and beauty.
Also, "We tried to make it beautiful because it's the last thing some people will ever see." -designers of cobra helicopter
<!--QuoteBegin-Bl/\ck_\/!p3r+Jun 6 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bl/\ck_\/!p3r @ Jun 6 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do they call it a mini gun when its not all that mini? There you go... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> because it's a mini version when compared to other gatling guns like vulcans
As for favourite guns....lever action Winchesters shotguns. They're so damn classy (especially when they appear in a game and they do that "spin-the-gun-and ready-it-for-the-next-shot" thing. That just rocks.
BTW, what's the difference between liking a gun "in real life" and liking one in any other sense?
#1 - MG-42: 1200 - 1300 rounds/min. I <i>think</i> it's the fastest non-minigun firing rate... but i might be wrong. Also because it was the base model for the Smartguns [i think, cant remember properly] in the Aliens series. (yes, i'm serious. just look at it! doesn't it look similar?) As well, it doesn't have any overly-insane firing rate, like the miniguns do, so you could <i>technically</i> carry a backpack of belt-fed ammo goodness (though it would be heavy) and shoot it up for minutes... 1200 rounds later. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#2 - FN P90: looks seksy and has a niiice magazine size. Reloading doesn't look like a chore nor would it happen much, either, considering it might be able to go through kevlar...
#3 - Jackhammer: A fully automatic shotgun with 240 rounds per minute?! That'll blow any part of whatever the hell you're shooting at off and out of it's body... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Need I say more? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
edited June 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 03:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i have a good idea: let's not like SHOTPUT, JAVELIN, or ARCHERY anymore. everyone has to calm down, it's possible that FIREARMS is one more sport/hobby for some people.
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <img src='http://www.biggerhammer.net/mgshoot/kcrfall2k/flamethrower_upward.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> although the flamethrower is a horrible, horrible, horrible weapon and is brutally cruel and evil. still, it's just freaking cool.
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jun 5 2004, 10:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jun 5 2004, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 5 2004, 03:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 5 2004, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Jun 5 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how you people like something that can take a life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i have a good idea: let's not like SHOTPUT, JAVELIN, or ARCHERY anymore. everyone has to calm down, it's possible that FIREARMS is one more sport/hobby for some people.
edited for less rage <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey man, im an avid hunter, im just trying open to both sides.
I should shoot myself for posting in a thread like this... but hell, I think it would be pretty cool to own my own FN90 someday. Or at least a legal replica.
Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
edited June 2004
From sheer gaming experience: the FN-FAL for being above average overall, and the AK-47 for power and ease of maintenance/reliability. Both also have the benefit of fairly common [read: cheap] ammunition, which guns like the H&K G11 can't boast about.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun.
[edit in response to some posts below]I'll correct my above statement by saying it doesn't take away *all* honor and challenge in hunting if you use a gun. I'm still certain it removes a certain quality to the experience that I personally find important.
<!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From sheer gaming experience: the FN-FAL for being above average overall, and the AK-47 for power and ease of maintenance/reliability. Both also have the benefit of fairly common [read: cheap] ammunition, which guns like the H&K G11 can't boast about.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You do know that in a majority of states a 21+ year old with a clean record can get a permit to carry a concealed firearm, right? Self defence isn't a crime, just make sure it's a last resort.
Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
<!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Jun 5 2004, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 5 2004, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From sheer gaming experience: the FN-FAL for being above average overall, and the AK-47 for power and ease of maintenance/reliability. Both also have the benefit of fairly common [read: cheap] ammunition, which guns like the H&K G11 can't boast about.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You do know that in a majority of states a 21+ year old with a clean record can get a permit to carry a concealed firearm, right? Self defence isn't a crime, just make sure it's a last resort. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If you want to make a thread in the Discussion forums about it, I'll be happy to post a reply, but I think we've seen enough gun control threads there to know most people will just stick to their opinions through the end.
Back on-topic: I recently heard that trying to promote a gun for a slightly larger magazine size is useless, because the poor spring mechanism often means that (example not gun-specific) you'd only load an mp5 to 25 rounds instead of a max 30 if you knew you'd have a more extended period of time before a firefight. Is this true?
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
edited June 2004
not always true... but it's good to replace your magazine spring every few years anyway.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey man, im an avid hunter, im just trying open to both sides. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
k... i just get so angry when people say that guns are bad because they're designed to kill. it's a ridiculous point to make.
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Jun 5 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ever been hunting?
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(the beta-c variant is extra nice. it's on securityarms.com)
runner up: Steyr AUG
second runner up: M4 with doodads attached
Machinegun: Old-style M60 with a rusting bipod. Bullets hanging off the side = must.
runner up: M249
Sub Machinegun: Fabrique Nationale F-2000 modular! WOOOOOOOOOT!!!!
runner up: FN P90
Pistol: All pistols look the same to me, bah. I'd go with any pistol with extra doodads (flashlight, LAM, grenade launchers). Except I HATE revolvers. Yuck!
Sniping Rifle: Barrett Light Fifty, because it looks awesome and is totally hardcore.
runner up: H&K SL-8. Looks cool.
Anti-materiel Rifle: Dunno what one of those are.
Big Gun: Flamethrower! wooo!
runner up: Stinger Missile
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, metal was invented for the sole purpose of swords.
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, metal was invented for the sole purpose of swords. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, almost
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Please. One more Hec<b>h</b>ler & Koch, and I'll kill a kitty.... with my bare hands....
btw <b><3</b>
<img src='http://mgdon.best.vwh.net/dummies/MG42.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said they were.
There you go...
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said they were. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think that's guilty's problem.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Please. One more Hec<b>h</b>ler & Koch, and I'll kill a kitty.... with my bare hands.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
hey, I just quoted the original post, and I happened to agree with him on the g36k <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
btw: <3
<img src='http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/beta-cmag/g36_front.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Also,
"We tried to make it beautiful because it's the last thing some people will ever see."
-designers of cobra helicopter
There you go... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
because it's a mini version when compared to other gatling guns like vulcans
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/machine/minigun-e.htm' target='_blank'>http://world.guns.ru/machine/minigun-e.htm</a>
As for favourite guns....lever action Winchesters shotguns. They're so damn classy (especially when they appear in a game and they do that "spin-the-gun-and ready-it-for-the-next-shot" thing. That just rocks.
BTW, what's the difference between liking a gun "in real life" and liking one in any other sense?
AR-15
Otherwise:
Spas-12 Shotgun
H&K Two-tone USP
Sig Sauer P228
M16A2
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh16-e.htm' target='_blank'>USAS-12</a>
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn56-e.htm' target='_blank'>RT-20</a> and <a href='http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn46-e.htm' target='_blank'>Steyr IWS 2000</a>, which make the M82 seem weak.
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg04-e.htm' target='_blank'>Browning M2HB</a> (or the .50 caliber Browning machine gun)
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/machine/minigun-e.htm' target='_blank'>And any miniguns.</a>
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh, and, no, I've never shot any of these, obviously. However I <i>have</i> shot a Beretta 92FS, Colt Python, M1 Garand, and a SKS Simonov before.
#2 - FN P90: looks seksy and has a niiice magazine size. Reloading doesn't look like a chore nor would it happen much, either, considering it might be able to go through kevlar...
#3 - Jackhammer: A fully automatic shotgun with 240 rounds per minute?! That'll blow any part of whatever the hell you're shooting at off and out of it's body... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"This...Is my BOOMstick!"
Need I say more? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: TheSavior wins.
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i have a good idea: let's not like SHOTPUT, JAVELIN, or ARCHERY anymore. everyone has to calm down, it's possible that FIREARMS is one more sport/hobby for some people.
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it seems that this annoys only me:
AW/M:
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>A</b></span>ccuracy International <b><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>W</span>eapons System</b> / <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>M</b></span>agnum
AW/P:
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>A</b></span>ccuracy International <b><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>W</span>eapons System</b> / <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>P</b></span>olice
<img src='http://www.biggerhammer.net/mgshoot/kcrfall2k/flamethrower_upward.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
although the flamethrower is a horrible, horrible, horrible weapon and is brutally cruel and evil. still, it's just freaking cool.
well, lookie at some other places like<a href='http://www.accuracyinternational.com/' target='_blank'>www.accuracyinternational.com</a> and
"Arctic Warfare" was a nickname given to the AW (by the SAS iirc) because it was primarily used in cold places
Then give up all your cars, books, pencils, pieces of metal, TVs (nasty shock) and cut off your arms, legs, pull out your teeth, and live in a bubble. (one that can't suffocate people) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
None of those items were designed with killing in mind. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i have a good idea: let's not like SHOTPUT, JAVELIN, or ARCHERY anymore. everyone has to calm down, it's possible that FIREARMS is one more sport/hobby for some people.
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Hey man, im an avid hunter, im just trying open to both sides.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun.
[edit in response to some posts below]I'll correct my above statement by saying it doesn't take away *all* honor and challenge in hunting if you use a gun. I'm still certain it removes a certain quality to the experience that I personally find important.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You do know that in a majority of states a 21+ year old with a clean record can get a permit to carry a concealed firearm, right? Self defence isn't a crime, just make sure it's a last resort.
Favorite for personal use: give me a compound bow. Guns for US civilians only serve two purposes these days: committing crimes and taking all the challenge/honor out of hunting. Sure, Native Americans had less technologically enhanced bows than even compound bows, but there's still no arguing that either is better than a gun. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You do know that in a majority of states a 21+ year old with a clean record can get a permit to carry a concealed firearm, right? Self defence isn't a crime, just make sure it's a last resort. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you want to make a thread in the Discussion forums about it, I'll be happy to post a reply, but I think we've seen enough gun control threads there to know most people will just stick to their opinions through the end.
Back on-topic: I recently heard that trying to promote a gun for a slightly larger magazine size is useless, because the poor spring mechanism often means that (example not gun-specific) you'd only load an mp5 to 25 rounds instead of a max 30 if you knew you'd have a more extended period of time before a firefight. Is this true?
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k... i just get so angry when people say that guns are bad because they're designed to kill. it's a ridiculous point to make.
Ever been hunting?
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I like the Beretta 92 as well, but I really would like to get some of the Grammaton Cleric Berettas... mmmm....