How Many Of You Use Legal Scripts?
Bulletproof_McBain
Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28735Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28735Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">A poll.</div> I've been playing for over a year now, and yes some nights I kick a lot of ****... other nights I play like a total n00b.
But in all my time of playing, I've never been able to master the fade, I simply cannot change weapons fast enough, even now that I've used the options menu to bind keys to weapon 1 and weapon 2 nearly my movement keys (the arrows... I used the right side of the keyboard) in order to try and get better with the fade... but I still mess up.
I'd never been able to understand how people could get so good with the fade or change weapons quick enough, especially since with the mouse wheel (my weapon-changer) in the heat of battle attempting a fade strike, I'll panic and overshoot with the wheel and accidentally click on an unavailable ability at the time (like acid rockets).
I only started looking here a few weeks ago, when I found that reloading bug (because prior to that, the forum never worked for me, kept saying i needed to be registered to enter, but the registration page would never load)... and now I'm seeing all these comments about using scripts, especially with fades.
Now I don't use any scripts whatsoever, simply because I have no idea where to even start with any, but secondly the very nature of them doesn't seem to sink right with me, feels like taking advantage of the game when I'm happy to just use the designed options menu and default game limitations. Certainly if in fact most players are using them, it gives me extra satisfaction to know the nights when I kicked their **** were done in the old-fashioned way.
So I'm curious to know...
* how many of you use scripts, of any kind whatsoever
and secondly
* how dependent is the fade on scripts to be deadly?
But in all my time of playing, I've never been able to master the fade, I simply cannot change weapons fast enough, even now that I've used the options menu to bind keys to weapon 1 and weapon 2 nearly my movement keys (the arrows... I used the right side of the keyboard) in order to try and get better with the fade... but I still mess up.
I'd never been able to understand how people could get so good with the fade or change weapons quick enough, especially since with the mouse wheel (my weapon-changer) in the heat of battle attempting a fade strike, I'll panic and overshoot with the wheel and accidentally click on an unavailable ability at the time (like acid rockets).
I only started looking here a few weeks ago, when I found that reloading bug (because prior to that, the forum never worked for me, kept saying i needed to be registered to enter, but the registration page would never load)... and now I'm seeing all these comments about using scripts, especially with fades.
Now I don't use any scripts whatsoever, simply because I have no idea where to even start with any, but secondly the very nature of them doesn't seem to sink right with me, feels like taking advantage of the game when I'm happy to just use the designed options menu and default game limitations. Certainly if in fact most players are using them, it gives me extra satisfaction to know the nights when I kicked their **** were done in the old-fashioned way.
So I'm curious to know...
* how many of you use scripts, of any kind whatsoever
and secondly
* how dependent is the fade on scripts to be deadly?
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then
mwheelup = slot1
mwheeldown = slot2
mouse5 = slot3
mouse4 = slot4
Then you can switch instantly for leap biting and blink swipe.
And mousewheel blows for weapon changing. Definitely use your left hand (assuming right mouse) and keys very close to your move keys for your weapons. I guess you could use q and e for wpn 1 and 2 if you don't like reaching alllllll the way up to the numbers. That might help.
Don't use arrow keys, they're not near many other keys. On that note, I think one day soon I'll be switching from wsad to edsf, so I can reach more keys faster.
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And I should add, mousewheel blows when you use it to select through a LIST of weapons... but just up and down bound directly to the weapons works nicely.
Any non-wireless mouse with 5 programmable buttons will help greatly in any first person shooter. Get one if you can. =] *shakes his fist at wireless gear*
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then
mwheelup = slot1
mwheeldown = slot2
mouse5 = slot3
mouse4 = slot4
Then you can switch instantly for leap biting and blink swipe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Si senór!
(no i dont use any scripts)
I don't play enough to warrent the use of scripts. I use hud_fastswitch 1, thats it.
and the mp_fastswitchtime .0 [I think thats what is is called]
and then just use the regular slots
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corrected one command so far
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then
mwheelup = slot1
mwheeldown = slot2
mouse5 = slot3
mouse4 = slot4
Then you can switch instantly for leap biting and blink swipe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Si senór!
(no i dont use any scripts) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
mmmm mx 500 goodness.
i have almost the same setup as you, except mouse4 is reload <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There really isn't one. There is no Uber script that turns a newb into a veteren.
All a script does is simplify a set of commands that could be done manually. Its just efficiency. Its part of the game code. The Developers of NS have added a server variable that will block the more complicated scripts, so if for some reason you have issues with efficent people, go play on the servers that have that variable turned on.
Oh and also, you should have started a real poll so we could clearly see the results.
Indeed. In my opinion, there are two types of scripts:
1. Efficent Scripts: Simplying functions that can be already performed by a series of key presses. Generally two categories, scripts that perform game functions, and communication scripts, the latter of wich has been pretty much retired with the advent on in-game VOIP support. These scripts comprise 99% of all available scripts out there.
3. Exploit Scripts: These scripts are specificly designed to exploit something in the game. Probably the most famous one would be the 1.0 Pistol Script. Back when the ROF of the Pistol was uncapped, this script allowed the player to unload the entire Pistol clip in a fraction of a second, something even the most hyped up coffee junkie couldn't manage by purely clicking. This was recognized as an exploit, and the Pistols ROF was capped to compensate. Pistol Scripts still exist, but they are buggy, and due to the nature of the wait command, its possible to click faster than the script.
As of 3.0, I'm unaware of any scripts that exploit <b>anything</b> in the game. Cheats exist but they are <b>NOT</b> scripts in any way.
I use the clientside lastinv script, nothing else. And I think I unbound that recently, after getting annoyed at... stuff.
Also pretty useful for ducking while blinking to avoid getting hit as much.
If I had a better mouse I could easily hold abutton down with my thumb but I just have a 5 year old 2 button + mousewheel Intellimouse, with the word "Microsoft" partially worn off so it now reads "roso".
So, I use scripts to compensate for my inferior hardware.
I jut want to be able to improve as a player.
When I was referring to 'legal' scripts, I dont have a clue what I'm talking about, so dont get all veteran and big-headed on me. I was simply basing it on what I'd read here. I play the game every night, but that's it... I rarely spend time reading here in order to learn all the ins and outs of the games development and exploits. I was simply referring to the exploits that as far as I was aware were hacks or scripts or whatever that were done using the console. I just play, so excuse my lack of knowledge on the situation.
I've tried using the letter keys for my arrows, but I simply keep fumbling it up, and in every game I play on my PC , I ALWAYS use the arrow keys, that's around 9 years worth of habbit and instinct that I no cannot really tear myself away from.
For the record... this is my controls:
backspace - flashlight
return - use
right-shift - reload
right-control - pop-up command
forward-slash - walk
period - crouch
comma - voice chat
arrows - the obvious
p - spray paint
h - request health
m - request ammo
o - request orders
mouse wheel - weapons change
page down - weapon 2
page up - weapon 1
delete - suicide (seems to be defaulted there)
mouse button 1 - fire
mouse button 2 - jump
c - map
As you can see, all based on the right of the keyboard.. which is something that I'm just instinctly stuck to these days.
Although I considered getting a five button mouse, I can easily see how that would be more than effective with simply more weapons keys to the mouse buttons... only problem is I'm a cheapass (my current mouse was free)... haha... but if I can find one cheap enough, I'll definately take advantage of the moment.
I'll add more scripts as I determine I want them... I guess you could consider it a "script" when I exec a different config file every time I change life forms as an alien (really really helpful for gorge...not enough keys on the keyboard to bind all the upgrades I want for lerk/fade/onos and bind all the chamber upgrades and bind communications for marines without separate configs)
People seem to be under the impression that scripting is somehow altering the game... Scripts use half-life commands, in ways that half-life commands ARE INTENDED to be used. If it wasn't intended to be able to have a single key do multiple things at once, the commands would not exist. That said, most good players use very few scripts. Good bunnyhoppers either use a 3jump or 5jump script or their mwheel to time their jumps perfectly, and pistol scripts are common. Other than that there really aren't many scripts used. I guess romano's lastinv script is pretty popular too.
The #1 most important thing to Fading is efficient binding of the first 3 slots. The mousewheel won't work for exactly the reason you specified. If you want an example, my Fading binds:
WSAD - Movement
Q - Slot 1
E - Slot 2
Mouse 2 - Slot 3
Q and E allow Blink/Swiping without moving my fingers away from the movement keys. Scripts are completely unnecessary for this(and a Blink/Swipe script will hurt you more than it helps), with a little practice you can easily do it just as fast yourself without being limited to a certain timing. Metabolize on Mouse 2 is to allow extremely easy Blink/Meta combos, which are extremely helpful namely because they allow you to take Celerity or Silence without worrying about Blink adrenaline. Hit E, hold down the button and immediately click Mouse 2, then let go and switch back to Blink or Swipe. I only stop using Meta if I get in over my head and want to make sure I get through the door as fast as possible. Other than that, there aren't any tricks to Fading, just practice Blink control and work on gaining an intimate understanding of exactly how much damage you're able to take before running away. Safety always comes first as a Fade, the #1 newbie mistake is to get cocky and try to finish off a marine before running from a dangerous situation.
Some people prefer lastinv to switch between Blink and Swipe, but that prevents you from easily using metabolize and lastinv is also subject to server lag which will screw you up once in a while. One button for one attack prevents any mixups.
You are using hud_fastswitch, right? It's practically impossible to hold your weight as a Fade without it.
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bind mouse1 hax
But in all my time of playing, I've never been able to master the fade, I simply cannot change weapons fast enough, even now that I've used the options menu to bind keys to weapon 1 and weapon 2 nearly my movement keys (the arrows... I used the right side of the keyboard) in order to try and get better with the fade... but I still mess up.
I'd never been able to understand how people could get so good with the fade or change weapons quick enough, especially since with the mouse wheel (my weapon-changer) in the heat of battle attempting a fade strike, I'll panic and overshoot with the wheel and accidentally click on an unavailable ability at the time (like acid rockets).
I only started looking here a few weeks ago, when I found that reloading bug (because prior to that, the forum never worked for me, kept saying i needed to be registered to enter, but the registration page would never load)... and now I'm seeing all these comments about using scripts, especially with fades.
Now I don't use any scripts whatsoever, simply because I have no idea where to even start with any, but secondly the very nature of them doesn't seem to sink right with me, feels like taking advantage of the game when I'm happy to just use the designed options menu and default game limitations. Certainly if in fact most players are using them, it gives me extra satisfaction to know the nights when I kicked their **** were done in the old-fashioned way.
So I'm curious to know...
* how many of you use scripts, of any kind whatsoever
and secondly
* how dependent is the fade on scripts to be deadly? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I use scripts
I use no scripts for the Fade, lerk, gorge, onos.
Lastinv=win
I use a +3jump script, because I don't feel like useing my mousewheel (which is easier, but I like useing it to switch weapons on occasion) to bunnyhop up slopes and on level ground- what the heck man, you gotta use the mousewheel otherwise it's lame!
I have a clientside lastinv script but that's lame too, I mean, you should have to fight with lag, because it's a part of the game!
Oh, I use config.cfg kinda frequently as well. It's a bit lame, huh.
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alias "+whatever" "slot2"
alias "-whatever" "slot1"
bind "key" "+whatever"
alias "weapon1" "slot1;bind key weapon2"
alias "weapon2" "slot2;bind key weapon1"
bind "key" "weapon2"
Don't use them, they will make you godlike.
Take a look at the half-life readme file. There are some information on scripting.
Edit: Scripts aren't so hard, I had no previous experience with them and knowing some commands I made this myself.