Bad Commanders...

Communist_Kirby

i just started playing NS a few hours ago, and iv ran into 2 really abusive commanders....they dont give you anything and they give you orders to run directly into an enemy hive and stuff..is there a way to get rid of them?

ZiGGY

nope, this isnt the game for you.

proteinstain

ZiGGY^ your not exactly helping, the point of forums isnt to get people to stop playing. Anyways Communist_Kirby their are only a few like that, and you should just try listening to them instead of expecting stuff.

Slink

Well, to be honest Communist_Kirby, a lot of the time that's how the game works...

There are a lot of times in Natural Selection where you're just throwing yourself at the enemy, and staying alive isn't really an option. I suppose i'm used to that, and don't really even notice it, because i play on dialup and i die a lot no matter what game i'm playing. But in NS, i'm more often charging toward certain death, simply because that's all that you CAN do when the other team has a resourse advantage and is sending fades at you non-stop, or you're trying to take down a hive and it's lamed up with OC's. In other objective based games like DoD, there aren't things like Onos to rip you apart. If you want to enjoy Natural Selection, i suggest starting to think about some of the aspects that make it different from DoD and CS, namely it's resources, and the strategies that involves.

Good Luck, and stay with it, cuz it's worth it.

GhostBomber

Another thing to remember is to NEVER ask for anything as a player. There are very few exceptions, such as: Resource towers, phasegates (when you're in the right place), and welders. Your commander will decide who to give weapons to, and when. Get used to following orders, and unless you do very, very well, expect no rewards or recognition. However, be a whiny jerkoff asking for a shotgun every time you spawn, and the commander will make a point not to give you equipment (At least, I do).

Just be patient, and get used to your light armor and light machine gun.

SinSpawn

Also an important thing to know about commanders is that they have their own commanding techniques, their own style of tactics, if you wanted a commander to have the same game style all of the time, NS shoulda made the commander abot which woulda made it less fun.

Commanding is also hard, you try it sometime, it gets annoying when you want something done but your team just runs of doing what they like.

jamespsx

y dont u become commander? heck we all started commanding some game right <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

if u still dont like the marines point of view (i.e. being shouted at by comm to do suicidel runs) then simpley go aliens... they are more independant, because of res sytem meaning u can get what u want, when u want...

Sky

<!--QuoteBegin-GhostBomber+Jun 23 2004, 12:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GhostBomber @ Jun 23 2004, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another thing to remember is to NEVER ask for anything as a player. There are very few exceptions, such as: Resource towers, phasegates (when you're in the right place), and welders. Your commander will decide who to give weapons to, and when. Get used to following orders, and unless you do very, very well, expect no rewards or recognition. However, be a whiny jerkoff asking for a shotgun every time you spawn, and the commander will make a point not to give you equipment (At least, I do).

Just be patient, and get used to your light armor and light machine gun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
roger that.

but please don't get the idea that aliens don't use teamwork, they need it too in order to beat an organized marine team.

napi

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put this in big red letters when NS starts up to be honest...

it's amazing how much some people are convinced that a single alien can win the game alone :/

waller

They also need it to beat an un-orgainsed alien side.

Zunni

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jun 23 2004, 03:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jun 23 2004, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but please don't get the idea that aliens don't use teamwork, they need it too in order to beat an organized marine team. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
put this in big red letters when NS starts up to be honest...

it's amazing how much some people are convinced that a single alien can win the game alone :/<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Did you ever face Cloud King when he was fading, or any of the other priemier fades out there?

An excellent fade can defeat an entire marine team by themselves, especially when playing on a pub..

napi

<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Jun 23 2004, 05:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Jun 23 2004, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Did you ever face Cloud King when he was fading, or any of the other priemier fades out there?

An excellent fade can defeat an entire marine team by themselves, especially when playing on a pub.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i know... but i was thinking more of the average players - there are always exceptions to the case

amarc

I looked at the title of this thread and though of myself!

crono1

amarc, you're new, but i love you.
at least you're not jas0 :: "i'm the next team.uk com"
my god, if he gets in team uk then the whole thing would be more of a shambles than they're actually campaigning to put right.

ZiGGY

my favourite european team atm is cu@boulangerie makes me want to buy a shotgun and start hunting me some english wannabes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (wannabes which are english oddly enough)

ekent

ogm euro drama tbh? B<

Sanguin

you realise amarc is already in teamuk crono? :o

Dadden

<!--QuoteBegin-crono^+Jun 23 2004, 08:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (crono^ @ Jun 23 2004, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> amarc, you're new <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well harsh B<

Lito

I believe he's looking for the Eject Commander option.

Pull out your pop-up menu, go up, then right. (correct me if i'm wrong on this)

crono1

yeah i know, they've got a petition to take away team.uk from relentless and reform it because they're saying it's 2nd rate atm. but if jas0 gets in team.uk then i'll lol until i cannot lol anymore.

comrade

UK has no superb commanders, I say we smuggle in starfox from Sweden.

amarc

Have any of you ever played with Rel? Seriously, there isn't a better comm around than him atm. He reminds me of the 1.04 AngryMonkey, mad hax <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

All the people slating team UK couldn't do any better except the one person who was already offered a place but wanted everything his way... no names.

CU@UK2 crono!11 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

crono1

i think relentless is a great com, angrymonkey is getting back into the game too, let's see what happens.
just a shame the euro ns scene is ruined by arrogant clanners who think they're much better than theyr'e actually are.. hahaha you remember echelon? he was arrogance personified but at least he actually had some skill, there's just no feeling of fun as everyone is bitching about each other all over the place.
i used to think you were one of the biggest **** going, amarc, but i realised the opinions i were getting of you were from the arrogant wannabes who were just jealous of your recent achievements.. :/
i'm not a brilliant player, and i don't really even wanna bother playing ns until this community sorts it's self out.

comrade

<!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Jun 23 2004, 06:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Jun 23 2004, 06:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All the people slating team UK couldn't do any better except the one person who was already offered a place but wanted everything his way... no names.
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If you're referring to me then, hi amarc <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->


When you get twice the score of the next guy when trialing for your national team in all the games you play and then get told you're a reserve what would <i>you</i> do? Especially when 2-3 members of the team don't communicate. At all.


As for Rel, I haven't played under him for a while but when I did he seemed kinda clumsy and made bad decisions. Don't get me wrong, he was above average but not one of the best by far. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

No hard feelings, we just gorge rush some more public servers some time <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->

ZiGGY

<!--QuoteBegin-Sanguin+Jun 23 2004, 08:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sanguin @ Jun 23 2004, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you realise amarc is already in teamuk crono? :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
tis a sad sad day for all mankind... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

amarc

I agree crono sometimes I just can't be bothered with it, but just look at it like this: At the end of the day it's just a game which, lets face it, isn't really that important in the grand scheme of things. And of even less importance is the happenings within the online scene of that game considering most players are <18 and you will probably never meet them. No one gets on with everyone and behind a computer screen people take things too seriously/take jokes literally/say things they can get away with - everyones done it and it's the bane of every scene, not just NS. Though I agree most of the clanners are not as good as theyre cracked up to be (especially in other games/with default settings <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

moomin I was just going on what I was told, maybe it's wrong - I would say try again &

<!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> rush4life!

ZiGGY - <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

ZiGGY

I can feel there was a lot of irony removed in that edit <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Jared101

just do what they say,most the time

youll understand when you start comming,im still a really bad comm.although i am good at saying "shut the **** up,im commander,and i say what the he11 we are doing" to the annoying person who keeps saying

"commander im only good with shotgun"
"commander i can win it for us with a jetpack"
"gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl gl"**3 minutes go past** "what a noob comm,eject"

Jared101

shortgun commander
commandoer shortgun

who took my mines!

commander you give me welder i know a good spot to weld a spot at that place

eject eject eject eject

shortgun

ZiGGY

awww man i moan for stuff all the time and I GET it, then I die cause I lag or they hax or he doesnt spam me a million medpacks <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Bait_Boy

I usually ask the comm to get the team things ie when there are fades about Ill say something like:
"comm there are fades I think we might need shotties" or something like that, usually just something like: *gets fragged by fade* crap fades
I dont ask for the stuff personally because i like the lmg cept against <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> and <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> and <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->

LMG rules when you can aim (unlike me)