Getting Pubbbers To Do Things

eVox

<div class="IPBDescription">my trick</div> at the beginning of the game, one of the most frustrating things is getting people to go out and get rts. so after i drop the ip and armory, i say

"First 3 people to get me res towers get shotguns"


This magical phrase has the power to send 5 armory humping marines out into the field capping rts. And only sometimes do you have to deal with them asking for their shotguns. If they do, tell them either

"since you all got RT's we'll be able to ALL get shotguns really soon"
or
"you didnt win, no sg for you"

Just because you are commander, doesnt mean you cant lie...
And with the power of this statement, usually you win and they dont complaign when you end with a heavy train and pleanty of goodies.


Ive tested it, it works. Telling wandering/useless marines there might be a shotgun involved if they follow orders works.





now if i can just get the comm exp to be able to USE the res to win more....

Tang

Wow, sadistic.

Mr_Chuckletrousers

It may be sadistic, but it sure as heck works better than screaming at pubbers to do your every whim and fancy. People respond to positive encouragement rather than negative threats. Of course, the commander has to follow through with his promise to a certain extent to avoid losing credibility.

ZiGGY

I just sing and talk bollocks constantly, I think that works just as well :/

999Hydralisk

Once a comm cried into the microphone to get us to do what he wanted <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> .


ya....try that if you shotgun lies don't work. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->

ZiGGY

oh I forgot to mention that if my techinique fails you usually get ejected anyway, so its all good :S

eVox

yeah im a somewhat evil comm. if one person spends too much time humping the armory, it get recycled. that means we lose. Its kinda funny to watch people frantically try to build one when i drop it in base again, only to recycle it. heheheh. might as well make some people laugh.



and btw, I dont bother upgrading to adv armory (or jp/ha eventually). if i cant win by then, o well. recycle, hop out, and go kill things

jamespsx

i say, "alright ladies, if u cap dr ill give u all shottys..." hell iv never seen marines run so fast <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

DJ_Niems

I read this in a previous post:: The F.O.O.D. principal (follow orders or die).

Basically, if you get to the comm's waypoints to pop a cap in a res's backside, he treats you with med and ammo packs along the way. You are also usually given the new technology first.

The armoury humpers have their day ruined when they run into kharaa trouble, and com simply ignores them, and their day is turned to tears when they leave after their bum-chums are recycled.

Sure you may get ejected once or twice for being hard but they will eventualy learn that the only way to win is to follow orders.

That_Annoying_Kid

<!--QuoteBegin-Mr Chuckletrousers+Jun 23 2004, 08:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr Chuckletrousers @ Jun 23 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It may be sadistic, but it sure as heck works better than screaming at pubbers to do your every whim and fancy. People respond to positive encouragement rather than negative threats. Of course, the commander has to follow through with his promise to a certain extent to avoid losing credibility. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
^^


I used to give people the "guard person" waypoint on top of themselves, it would murder there FPS and make skulks hard to see


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aonomus

Yes rawr new emote <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->

This is a good idea that I really dont follow, but it wouldn't matter cause usually the marine are so stupid that they either kill each other, or hump in base and get killed cause they have thier backs turned... would I really trust em with 30 res of shotties just for a few rts? no.

TheMunch8

I give out my regs shotguns and say "They got me res towers. Do something usefull like that, and i will give you nice purty weapons." It seems to get those armory lovers away from the first love of their life to the out on their own phase

What really gets me is when they go out, and it is 1 v 1 or 2 v 1 against a Decent, but not really good skulk, and they can't kill them... That really proves to me that giving them a shotgun is a waste of res.

Lito

Or you could find a server with lots of regulars that actually do things with, get this, only winning the game as an incentive.

Crazy idea isn't it?

I consider the F.O.O.D. commanding tactics and its variants to be demeaning as a commander since you have to bribe, lie and cheat your way just to get any control.

This isn't a democracy, this is an autocracy.

RiotingNerd

needs more sox imho tbh

ekent

<!--QuoteBegin-Lito+Jun 30 2004,10:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lito @ Jun 30 2004,10:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or you could find a server with lots of regulars that actually do things with, get this, only winning the game as an incentive.

Crazy idea isn't it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Then no one builds the ip.

BobTheJanitor

<!--QuoteBegin-(e)kent+Jun 30 2004, 04:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ((e)kent @ Jun 30 2004, 04:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Then no one builds the ip. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong server. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Chods

when you have capped the whole map and have locked down 1 hive, you get p!ssed off when you tell ppl to go out and save an rt or to go somewhere and kill something and they dont and we end up losing because nobody saved the hive that we had. thats when i get angry and swear at the team. when we are eventually stuck i give out stuff to the best player, usually the only one who follows my orders. everyone else complains and stuff but telling them off usually shuts them up.

the other thing i hate is when people always ask for stuff. "get motion, im dying to much" or "get jps so we can fly". some people dont understand that you have to research jps at the protolab which can only be built when the armoury is upgraded. the worst is when useless players sit around spawn humping the armoury requesting guns.

thats the whole reason i dont really like comming, because nobody listens and everyone requests

Firewater

<!--QuoteBegin-eVo.x+Jun 23 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eVo.x @ Jun 23 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> at the beginning of the game, one of the most frustrating things is getting people to go out and get rts. so after i drop the ip and armory, i say

"First 3 people to get me res towers get shotguns"


This magical phrase has the power to send 5 armory humping marines out into the field capping rts. And only sometimes do you have to deal with them asking for their shotguns. If they do, tell them either

"since you all got RT's we'll be able to ALL get shotguns really soon"
or
"you didnt win, no sg for you"

Just because you are commander, doesnt mean you cant lie...
And with the power of this statement, usually you win and they dont complaign when you end with a heavy train and pleanty of goodies.


Ive tested it, it works. Telling wandering/useless marines there might be a shotgun involved if they follow orders works.





now if i can just get the comm exp to be able to USE the res to win more.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I find that when I give pubbers a reason to do something, they follow rather than just giving them waypoints.

"Get me those two RTs, I want to do a quick armory upgrade" It usually gets done.

"build the obs in base so I can get you guys phase gates and start MT for the team."

Give reasons, that way A)they know you aren't a nub comm B)so they have something to look forward to when they are done building, or going wherever you told them to go.

Electric_Gerbil

Nice idea, though it wouldn't work with me - I tend to follow orders anyhow. It'd probably work like a charm for some of the players I've seen, though.
Sadly, I never command, so I'll likely never use this idea...