WON will be missed by many a 56.ker <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I will miss WON.. i have many memories with that noble being.
RIP..
Also, WON, you might want to not talk to STEAM before you die.. I cant help but think of what you will feel like when you find out what has become of your empire <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Why I liked WON better than STEAM: Every time i tried to install steam, it cosistently does not work. I know there are *some* people who it works perfectly for, first go, but for the majority of us, there are too many problems, and too hard to fix. You just randomly get all these errors.
And the whole worry about cheaters is still there?!?! I don't know if there still are cheaters [can anybody clarify this] but just the other day there was someone accusing of cheating <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And yes, counterstrike sucks. DOD sucks. in fact i really hate most of the games now <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> You gotta play it as just a muck around 10 minute game, otherwise you get really **** off at all the flaws.
<!--QuoteBegin-Infinitum+Jun 29 2004, 11:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Jun 29 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *sigh* I still think WON was the better system... but how do you argue with the creators... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The same way you argue with the government.
Just start drinking and don't stop till the plants are talking.
Good riddance. Most of the problems (That I never even experienced, anyway) have been sorted out with Steam and it's now a great system to use. You can still play old versions of NS on Steam (With a little work for 1.04, I think. I'm guessing here, though.) and you don't have to have Counter-Strike or DoD or anything.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Actually, for 'the majority', Steam works perfectly. That's why they're killing off WON. When less than 3% of players have a problem with actually running Steam (as opposed to whingeing about having to use it), it's seen as being at a stage of development where some of the problems for certain people are caused by those people themselves.
After all... of course Steam won't run if you never download it and give it a chance. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Actually, WON never worked for me. Ever. Double-Click on a server, try to connect, get disconnected, apply 3 filters to server list, no response. I had to use GameTiger and enter individual IPs.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
And Steam will be even better, once it's had the development-time WON has. Hell, Steam's already off to a *much* better start than WON was, when it was first introduced.
<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Jun 30 2004, 01:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Jun 30 2004, 01:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's not that steam doesn't work, it's that WON worked much, much, much, much better <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Did it? I don't see how, and that's not even counting Steam's Friends and advanced server finding capabilities.
I admit, I used to HAET HAET HAET steam, but now that its settled down and gotten better i only mildly dislike Steam itself, but the benefits of the l33t stuff added to HL outweight it. Autocomplete in the console + command history = teh win for debugging SECRET PROJECT B
An optimistic view would be "its one tiny step closer", whereas a pessimistic view would be "the two things aren't related", but it it isn't a big step forward in getting hl2 out the door either way :P
optimistic - omg.. hl2 is coming out in the next few days.. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->:D
pessimistic - um, you EEDIOTS, cant you see theyre just doing this to overshadow and distract from HL2?? its an excuse theyre making, HL2 NEVER EXISTED GNRAWR
So then, not all of steam is being pushed towards those 2 people then <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Sizer+Jun 29 2004, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sizer @ Jun 29 2004, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can bash WON, but not Steam. LEWLS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wha? You must be new here, because Steam gets "bashed" often. The posters become so passionate about the argument that the topics are locked: most threads turn into flame war. So no, Steam gets criticized just as often as WON does - more so, actually.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 30 2004, 12:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 30 2004, 12:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sizer+Jun 29 2004, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sizer @ Jun 29 2004, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can bash WON, but not Steam. LEWLS <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wha? You must be new here, because Steam gets "bashed" often. The posters become so passionate about the argument that the topics are locked: most threads turn into flame war. So no, Steam gets criticized just as often as WON does - more so, actually. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> He probably didn't get a taste of the Steam forum the first few weeks after steam was released either. That would have wizened him up some.
<!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Jun 29 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Jun 29 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Steam brings up 10+ menus, somekind of overlayer, and 10 button each time you try to enter the console, stop assuming every complain is ridiculous
Won were smooth integrated in the game and it only overlapped 10-40% (depending on resolution) and you could play while having, it's fruitless to argue steam's a better solution.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Accidently bringing steam console down is alot worst than WONs console. No I am not going to bind the console key ~ to another.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jun 30 2004, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jun 30 2004, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I admit, I used to HAET HAET HAET steam, but now that its settled down and gotten better i only mildly dislike Steam itself, but the benefits of the l33t stuff added to HL outweight it. Autocomplete in the console + command history = teh win for debugging SECRET PROJECT B <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have to agree on this one Dewm, Steam isn't as bad as it was and we've been given some miniscule amounts of bling (read: detail textures) to help soften the blow <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Steam has gone from evil to bearable in my books now. Whether we like it or not, we gotta live with it anyway....
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jun 30 2004, 03:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jun 30 2004, 03:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I admit, I used to HAET HAET HAET steam, but now that its settled down and gotten better i only mildly dislike Steam itself, but the benefits of the l33t stuff added to HL outweight it. Autocomplete in the console + command history = teh win for debugging SECRET PROJECT B <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I also used to despise steam as if it were the bubonic plague, but h4x0red so it was badder and sutff
<!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Jun 29 2004, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Jun 29 2004, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Jun 30 2004, 01:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Jun 30 2004, 01:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's not that steam doesn't work, it's that WON worked much, much, much, much better <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Did it? I don't see how, and that's not even counting Steam's Friends and advanced server finding capabilities. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because the client side bullet registry worked roughly twice as good.
I don't choose WON over STEAM because of stupid things like a damn chess board, but of how it preformed in game.
And WON preformed miles ahead of steam. No hitbox issues, just so smooth.
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the other ones steam girl... pay attention <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
WON will be missed by many a 56.ker <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
RIP..
Also, WON, you might want to not talk to STEAM before you die.. I cant help but think of what you will feel like when you find out what has become of your empire <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Why I liked WON better than STEAM: Every time i tried to install steam, it cosistently does not work. I know there are *some* people who it works perfectly for, first go, but for the majority of us, there are too many problems, and too hard to fix. You just randomly get all these errors.
And the whole worry about cheaters is still there?!?! I don't know if there still are cheaters [can anybody clarify this] but just the other day there was someone accusing of cheating <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And yes, counterstrike sucks. DOD sucks. in fact i really hate most of the games now <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> You gotta play it as just a muck around 10 minute game, otherwise you get really **** off at all the flaws.
meh.
WON > STEAM
but won is being put to rest
*salutes*
The same way you argue with the government.
Just start drinking and don't stop till the plants are talking.
After all... of course Steam won't run if you never download it and give it a chance. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Good riddance, WON. You sucked.
Qua -> I think you still could control with the arrows, of course every number and alphabet was locked..
Rot in hell, WON.
Did it? I don't see how, and that's not even counting Steam's Friends and advanced server finding capabilities.
An optimistic view would be "its one tiny step closer", whereas a pessimistic view would be "the two things aren't related", but it it isn't a big step forward in getting hl2 out the door either way :P
pessimistic - um, you EEDIOTS, cant you see theyre just doing this to overshadow and distract from HL2?? its an excuse theyre making, HL2 NEVER EXISTED GNRAWR
Wha? You must be new here, because Steam gets "bashed" often. The posters become so passionate about the argument that the topics are locked: most threads turn into flame war. So no, Steam gets criticized just as often as WON does - more so, actually.
Wha? You must be new here, because Steam gets "bashed" often. The posters become so passionate about the argument that the topics are locked: most threads turn into flame war. So no, Steam gets criticized just as often as WON does - more so, actually. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
He probably didn't get a taste of the Steam forum the first few weeks after steam was released either. That would have wizened him up some.
For the uninformed, Steam had a sucky start, but not as bad as WON.
Especially when you could only play HLDM once a week, and get banned because of a typo in the code :\
Well, WON had its merits, but it's finally time to let it die. The only way we'll be able to play HL is through Steam or sticking to regular HL LAN.
Won were smooth integrated in the game and it only overlapped 10-40% (depending on resolution) and you could play while having, it's fruitless to argue steam's a better solution.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Accidently bringing steam console down is alot worst than WONs console. No I am not going to bind the console key ~ to another.
I have to agree on this one Dewm, Steam isn't as bad as it was and we've been given some miniscule amounts of bling (read: detail textures) to help soften the blow <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Steam has gone from evil to bearable in my books now. Whether we like it or not, we gotta live with it anyway....
I also used to despise steam as if it were the bubonic plague, but h4x0red so it was badder and sutff
But steam likes me now.
Did it? I don't see how, and that's not even counting Steam's Friends and advanced server finding capabilities. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because the client side bullet registry worked roughly twice as good.
I don't choose WON over STEAM because of stupid things like a damn chess board, but of how it preformed in game.
And WON preformed miles ahead of steam. No hitbox issues, just so smooth.