First Time Dived Into Linux - Via Knoppix

StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
<div class="IPBDescription">its l33t</div> I was reformating my work comp and decided that I try to do some fancy partitioning. Then i thought to myself that I should try out Linux on one of them just to learn it and to use it as a testing server for web development testing.

Then I found out about Knoppix, a Linux OS distribution that allows you to have a Linux OS all running from the CD.

So downloaded (its sweet when u dl all 600mb of in 30 min), and ran it. Make it rocked. Now I can make use of a that hunk of my prev work comp on the other side of the office <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

although havent managed to get it workin with the net yet. To connect to the net at my workplace, all you do is set your PC/laptop to your designated IP to get access to JANET. I am trying to figure out wat ip settings that i need to pass on to Knoppix to access the net as weel. IP address, gateway and subnet are easy to copy over but when Knoppix ask for name server etc i get totally confused on waht settings to copy over frm my windows machine (prefered DNS server, Alt DNS server, default gateway)

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  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    Nameservers are the DNS servers. I haven't used Knoppix with a network for a bit, so I'm not certain but it should ask for a few. Just put in however many it asks for, starting with the primary and working your way down.
  • littlewildlittlewild Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9467Members
    Hmm strange, mine worked straight without any prompts.
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    If you use DHCP it does, but if you need to set a static IP, you have to enter the nameservers.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    If you de<span style='color:orange'>cide to install l</span>inux instead of just using knopix, get Mandrake 10 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    had to randomly colorize a part of a sentence, because I can! WOOT!
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    but how to burn knoppix? i have always the newest version sos of it.. but when i burn it, im just gettin non bootable cds.. with html info pages on it about what knoppix and open source is , and the knoppix runtime files.. its on the disc, but i cant boot it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    is there annywhere a burning howto?
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Jun 30 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 30 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but how to burn knoppix? i have always the newest version sos of it.. but when i burn it, im just gettin non bootable cds.. with html info pages on it about what knoppix and open source is , and the knoppix runtime files.. its on the disc, but i cant boot it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    is there annywhere a burning howto? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean the latest ISO file? You'll need a burning program that is compatible with ISO files. Most programs support ISO files.. you just need to look around in the menus for something along the lines of "Burn CD from Image" or "Record from CD image"
    Then select that, point it to the ISO and burn. All the files should show up on the CD...

    If of course they did show up, you probably need to set your bios to boot from your cd drive..
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Jul 1 2004, 05:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Jul 1 2004, 05:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Jun 30 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 30 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but how to burn knoppix?  i have always the newest version sos of it..  but when i burn it, im just gettin non bootable cds..  with html info pages on it about what knoppix and open source is , and the knoppix runtime files..  its on the disc, but i cant boot it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> 
    is there annywhere a burning howto? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean the latest ISO file? You'll need a burning program that is compatible with ISO files. Most programs support ISO files.. you just need to look around in the menus for something along the lines of "Burn CD from Image" or "Record from CD image"
    Then select that, point it to the ISO and burn. All the files should show up on the CD...

    If of course they did show up, you probably need to set your bios to boot from your cd drive.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ahm.. have you read my post?



    i already know how to boot from cd?s
    i already know how to burn a iso image.

    but it wont work.
    there are all files on the cd , with a complete documentation and the runtime files, but its not bootable.


    how to make it bootable.. or better how to burn it bootable.. because nero doesnt burn it right somehow.

    thx
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    Hmm
    well i download Knoppix Eng ver
    Burnt the iso with Nero

    and it worked fine with me

    perhaps redownload it?
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    According to the site, the bootable image is stored in the "knoppix" directory on the disk and is called boot.img...

    This too might help:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Q: I have downloaded the ISO file, now what ?

    A:Several possibilities again:

        *

          Windows quick answer: You will need one 700M blank cd. Use a program such as Nero burning rom. You can get a httpfree trial of Nero from their site. To burn with this program, skip the wizard and choose File>Burn Image. Select KNOPPIX_Vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.iso file,>Burn. (Notice, Nero 6 has a bug preventing it from burning large images, for a patch see: httphttp://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4974#23520)
        *

          Linux: you can use the command cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,3,0 filename where dev=0,3,0 is your cdwriter

    (Attention, use "cdrecord -scanbus" before cdrecord to be sure that dev=0,3,0 is you cd-writer. If you own SCSI hds, you could lose all data of one hd when you use cdrecord with a wrong dev=(controler,id,partiton) !)

        * Windows long answer: Of course the answer depends on the individual program you are using to burn CDs, but all common CD-Writing programs should support the option of burning bootable ISO-Images, you probably just have to find the right menu option. At the address httphttp://www.knopper.net/knoppix/docs/ and on some of the KNOPPIX-Mirrors in a directory with the same name, you may find some examples written as short step-by-step documentations from users who successfully completed the procedure. KNOPPIX_Vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.iso -files are ISO-Images, which uses "El Torito"-Specification (httphttp://www.phoenix.com/resources/specs-cdrom.pdf).

    In the ISO-Image there is not only user-data, but also information about the file structure of the CD itself. If you want to see the file structure, have a look at Isobuster (httphttp://www.IsoBuster.com).

    To get the image-file on CD use RAW-Mode of your burning-software (have a look at Bild 1 WinOnCD German Edition).

    Select the KNOPPIX_Vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.iso as filename of the image. Select 2048 Bytes/Sector as the correct data format (see Bild 2 WinOnCD German Edition).

    Burn your CD as a "Single Session CD" or select finalize. The Mode "Disk at once" or "Track at once" should be irrelevant for a data-CD (have a look at the Online-Help of your burning software). If the CD boots, but they are read errors, try "Disk at once".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    you mean i burn the image from another image on a cd, just to burn this image from this cd? omg.. this is way to complicated for me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> thx, i will look into the knoppix folder on my cd
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Jul 1 2004, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jul 1 2004, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean i burn the image from another image on a cd, just to burn this image from this cd? omg.. this is way to complicated for me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> thx, i will look into the knoppix folder on my cd <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What program are you using to burn the CDs with anyways?.. I had some problems with one, then switched over to nero and it worked fine
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