Derelict: Ressurection

Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee!~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">AKA "Help crabby with parts selection"</div> Alright, After much thought, i know that i need to upgrade from the smoldering ashes of the Derelict (hmm... suddenly im thinking of renaming her Phoenix)
Anyway, i need a new motherboard, CPU, and ram, anu suggestions? The two frontrunners are:

Nforce2 Motherboard
+?
-or-

Processor: Athlon 64 3400+ Retail - $398
Cooling: Thermalright SLK-948U w/Vantec Stealth 92mm - $40
Motherboard: ASUS K8V Deluxe - $99
Memory: 2 X 512-MB Corsair TwinX XMS DDR400/PC3200LL - $304


any better suggestions?

(In case your wondering, i do prefer AMD. My Duron 733 still runs after 4 years and even after being OC'd to 1.001ghz. Product loyality is always good (as is the fact i own stock in AMD <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    *Bump*


    Come on guys, i know ya know more than i do with all this new fangeled technology
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Sorry, nobody likes helping HELPFUL members of the community. To get any assitance you need to have 34 posts and no avatar, and never start any threads <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Assuming you want to pay that amount of money, your parts look fine to me. Dunno if you really need the fancy Corsair RAM, but some people swear by it.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Nice setup (the second) But why cooling? Are you planning to overclock? What about harddisc?
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Jul 5 2004, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Jul 5 2004, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nice setup (the second) But why cooling? Are you planning to overclock? What about harddisc? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read the original thread.
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    What could we suggest more, A64 is the best prozessor you can buy nowdays.
    /me drolls
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  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    Not really for home use unfortunatly, save your self some cash, go for a 32 bit system now (nothing too pricey) and then when 64 bit apps run ablaze, the 64 bit cpu costs will drop, and everybody wins =)
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The A64 is a 32/64 bit processor and is even under 32 bit faster then anny normal 32 bit proc.
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  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    But still, the price, you can buy something similar in the 32 bit only range for much less <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But still, the price, you can buy something similar in the 32 bit only range for much less <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, or you can by something in the 64-bit range for much less.

    A nice comparison of a 2 GHz athlon XP and athlon 64: <a href='http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cpu_mobo/amd/3200_64/' target='_blank'>here</a>

    Especially take a look at game performance.
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    Allright, after much consideration, i have decided on this setup:

    CPU 2.2GHZ AMD ATHLON XP 3200+ 400MHZ 512k $202.19
    MOBO ASUS ATH/DUR SOCKET A NFORCE2 CHIPSET 400MHZ DDR AUDIO/LAN $74.67
    RAM 256MB DDR PC3200 400MHZ KINGSTON $51.40 (between 1 and 3 sticks, depending on if i want to pawn my paintguns)
    So, what do you think?

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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    That processor is horribly over priced... A 2.2 ghz with only 400 fsb for 200$?!
    I picked up a 2.4 pentium 4 with 800 fsb that was able to overclock to 3.6 ghz for 125$
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  • RuByRuBy Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10732Members
    yeah I'm seeing that particular processor at about $170 in France, I think you can get a better price on it!
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Allright, after much consideration, i have decided on this setup:

    CPU 2.2GHZ AMD ATHLON XP 3200+ 400MHZ 512k $202.19
    MOBO ASUS ATH/DUR SOCKET A NFORCE2 CHIPSET 400MHZ DDR AUDIO/LAN $74.67
    RAM 256MB DDR PC3200 400MHZ KINGSTON $51.40 (between 1 and 3 sticks, depending on if i want to pawn my paintguns)
    So, what do you think?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think you need to check a few more reviews, do a few comparisons, even a low end athlon-64(such as the 3000+ or 2800+) beats the snot out of that processor for gaming IF the game is not limited by your graphics card.

    When checking reviews, there's a few things you need to be aware of. When the CPU is being bottlenecked by the graphics card or something, you will see allmost the exact same results from all processors, when the reviewers where kind enough to include performance from nearly identical systems with other processors you will easily see this, but if you have to go check separate reviews you might not.

    Games should be run in a very low resolution to benchmark the CPU, because CPU load will not decrease, but load on the graphics card is greatly reduced. In many newer games you will not see a difference between these processors at all because your graphics card is limiting you, but there is no sensible reason not to buy a processor that's better if the difference in cost is justifiable or even in your favour.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    You want a high-end or middle-end computer? Anyway, Anandtech have a good guide for both purposes, check it out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> (google)
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    sonofabitch!

    Anyway, the chip, overpriced as it is, should be fine, im bottlenecked by my Gefroce4 Ti 4200 anyway. Plus, i got a big discount on it, total cost for all the parts: $360, better than what i payed for my Duron 733 4 years ago!

    /me simmers waiting for the mailtruck
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    /me preforms a necromancy spell and ressurects the topic/


    I finally got the parts! but i have a new, huge problem.
    As it seems, Windows XP doenst like me swapping out 90% of the componets, so i had to reinstall. Finding my old reliable burn copy (I accually bought it, but i have the original in my backup archive, wich is cross town in case i have a fire). All went well until it had to reboot to finish the process. Old reliable had a nasty chip in the disk, it loaded fine so i thought it woul;d be ok. Boy, was i wrong, it would finish setup then reset! After ejecting Old Reliable and tossing it, i burned another backup and try repairing my mistake, no dice. It seems the instillation of the first disk did somthging to my system thast makes reinstillation iimpossible without reformatting. Im a second away from pulling ym c drive and loading up on my spare, but im wondering Is my data still ok? and has any6one had a simmilart problem? Thanks


    -Mr. Headcrab
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  • Rage7Rage7 Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23883Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    You know it's better to have a fine balance with your components, having a super fast processor, with lots of fast ram, and a horribly ageing Ti4200? Sound's kinda silly to me with all the new games that are coming out to take advantage of these hot-rod video card's. I would somehow factor in a new video card into the equation to keep the system more outdated-proof. Try one of ATI's Radeon 9800 Pro, their getting pretty dirt cheap now, for a mere $229.00 bucks. (Pricing Via <a href='http://www.pcprogress.com/)' target='_blank'>http://www.pcprogress.com/</a>)

    Just a thought....
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    tempting, although the TI4200 is the most recent componety in the system, and i'm waiting for a sub 100 really good card (probably a Geforce 6).




    UPDATE: System is currently formatting the new C drive

    oh yeah, and she has 4 hard drives noe for a grand total of 340gb of space


    WD 30
    WD 80
    Maxtor 200
    Maxtor 40
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    I am operational!


    Let the doncing commence!!


    EDIT: Great, now my rear channel isnt working....
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    BumpDate ™


    Alright, Death, or Redeath ghas accured. The Drivers didnt play nice and promptly killed the system YET AGAIN!It doenst have the courtesy to give me a bsod. I shoulda gotten a Dell.....
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    The drivers didn't play nice? They KILLED THE SYSTEM? What did you do, hit it with golf drivers?
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    no, the update to the Video overrode the CPU update, and vice versa, giving me a glitch where if i tried to do ANYTHING it would rerstart. not even BSOD then restart, just restart out of the blue (could also be the old drivers for my MOBO, but that's impossible bewcaust i had to boot off a new HD to get it to start!) so now, the ZombieBox (Doenst get the name Derelict until it works again goddamnit!) is being a nice, 400 dollar Paperweight
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Reformat is what I'd reccomend. Or perhaps your harddrive is about to kick the bucket, which is a strong possiblity.
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    yeah, that's the odd thing, the HDD is brand new.

    after i installed XP, it rand fine, but then it started tghe ramdom crashes and now it wont5 boot at all, or even let me load iun the OS.

    I need to find someone with 90 gigs of space so i can backup and then reformat my former C:\ drive (Now currently I:/)
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    Bumpdate™ EDITED


    Well, the XP direct install didnt work, so im calling in a pro...
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    /me obtains an Orb of Necromancy from DooM's Time traveling Toolshed (or was that Hondo...)

    Update, yes, an update to a 3 month old thread


    I shall inform you of what has happened in the space of the past few months.

    1) the problem was a shoddy disk controller, i returned it at the end of AUGUST

    2) a month after no contact, they inform me i fogot an IDE cable, a case badge, and the instalattion CD. I mutter many obsenities and send it out on SEPT 20th

    3) after ZERO contact from them for a week, i call. they received it and will send me a replacment, finally i can sever all ties from the spawn of Satan. The guiy says the package will arrive NO LATER than Monday of next week.

    4) "Next Monday" came and went, im fuming and checking Priceline.com for airfare to their HQ and Cheaperthandirt.com for a surplus Sherman Tank. Rather than start an international incident (my Aim's so bad when im ****, i'd probably miss their Washington state HQ and hit Canada) I commmence "Operation: Rack-up-a-huge-bill-by-calling-their-1800-number-a-bajillion-times" I finally get to talk to a human being, although he sounded like he was making a quarter a day for his phone answering. He informs me that a large Goverment contract delayed my order, and he gave me a tracking number. the motherboard i ordered in the first two weeks of FRICKEN JULY will arrive Friday. Let's all hope this one accually WORKS.


    Oh, and free Caek and Pai. For information why, look at the bottom of the forum main page.
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  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    After sifting through 8 pages of forum posts, only to remember the SEARCH button as i hovered over the link to this topic, i'll be damned if i let it sink to page 2 already


    <span style='font-family:Impact'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Quad Bumpdate™!!!!</span></span></span>
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Heh, missed this first time around <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Best of luck finally getting a new system, which is really kindof old now...
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yeah good luck for your new system.
    And HAPPY BIRTHDAY, old headcrab you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I never had any problems like this with my


    <b>Intel</b> Motherboard


    Yes it was low, I apologise <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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