Ns Custom Fgd V. S1

Enceladus

This custom fgd is the original one, but with customs sprites for usage in the
Valve Hammer Editor. Alot of the pink entity boxes will be replaced with a
custom icon so they can be recognised more easily in Hammer 3D view.

Example (3 of 29):
<img src='http://www.sorcerer.de/ns/multimanager.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><img src='http://www.sorcerer.de/ns/envrender.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><img src='http://www.sorcerer.de/ns/infotarget.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Installation:
extract the sprites to "Valve Hammer Editor" folder and keep directory structure.
(the sprites should be in "Valve Hammer Editor\sprites\NS" afterwards)
Place the ns_custom_s1.fgd where ever you want it.
Set Valve Hammer Editor to use the ns_custom_s1.fgd instead of ns.fgd

<a href='http://www.sorcerer.de/ns/ns_custom_s1_fgd.zip' target='_blank'>ns_custom_s1_fgd.zip</a> ~90kB

esuna

Hmm, i'd suggest making a info_null sprite over info_target since when it comes to NS mapping, the info_target entity is generally a waste of an entity.

Enceladus

The three displayed are just an example. Alltogether there are 29 icons build in the fgd.
But I must admit, I forgot the info_null. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll fix it in the second version, when there are enugh ppl who want to work with that custom fgd.

Crash

Nice work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Dorian_Gray

Awesome <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> *uses and waits for v2*

Hypergrip

A simple yet very nice idea. I think this might make the work a bit easier, especially for people new to mapping. Also when you try to explain something the different looks of entities in hammer screenshots will be helpfull.

/Hyper

Hibame

As stated above, making tuts will be all the easier thanks to this

BigD

Nice work! Quite useful.

May I make a suggestion? For the light_spot, could you put a cross hair or dot or something to show the exact middle of it? It's always a pain trying to get one as close as possible to geometry that is really angled, so I end up trying to use the 3d view a bit. I think something like that would really help, because it's the very center of the entity that matters in those cases. (maybe for the plain light as well.) Thanks for the time and effort!

moultano

Very nice. My only complaint is that the light spot sprite is not colored to the color of the light in the way that the original one is. If you can fix that, you've got a real winner.

Actually, it would be even cooler if you could put in a model that points in the direction the light spot is pointing, but I have no idea if that's even possible.

Enceladus

Heh that response was enugh for me to keep on the work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll fix the missing one for v2 and also change that crosshair idea. The light spot itself I think the original light bulb didn't have the exact color either, but when I change the yellow color to white it should display the color more correctly.
About the models. well, I think it would be possible to replace the light spot with a model and having it point to the correct position, if you would use the angle of it to determine it's direction instead of an info_null. But I doubt, that the VHE is capable of shading models in color. and in my opinion it's more useful to be able to see a light spots color instead of it's direction. But nevertheles I'll have a look into it, and check out if it can shade models.
About v2. I'll resease it, after the Beta 5 is out, because I don't want to make it ready right now, and then a week later I have to change everything because the fgd eventually has changed.

Invader_Scoot

I would really like some good info_team(_?)start sprites for the next version, and hopefully an info_null.

Reebdoog

IIRC doesn't the sprite rotate as your camera does? So the light spot idea is kinda useless seeing it all depends on your camera angle. VHE at the moment adjusts the light spot sprite to an angle when you do, but moving the camera keeps the sprite in the exact same position. (i.e if its facing left, it will always face left regardless of the camera position)

Enceladus

The idea was about making a model which replaces the light_spot and therefore points to the direction of the adjusted angle. because a model displyed in VHE will always face towards it's set angle.
I just tried replacing it with a model and it will display the set angle (using a target instead of the angle to adjust the lights spot with a model won't change it's appearance) and it works. But then you won't be able to see the set light of that lightspot, because the model can't be shaded in VHE. As a workaround for that I tried changing it to display a model and a sprite so the sprite get's shaded in the light spot color. And that's somthing which works. so you would have the sprite with the color and the model to display it's direction and origin.
Now I just need an arrow model for that. But sadly I can't really make any models for HL since I never learned it. So if anyone would please make a simple right facing arrow model with the origin at the start for it, it would make me pretty happy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
for the arrow I had something like this in mind:
<img src='http://www.sorcerer.de/ns/arrow_origin.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
but if you want to make it different I don't mind, as long as it's a nice simple easy to recognize arrow <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
for the info_team_start ones.. it's a bit tricky and I doubt it will work that you can make different models for alien and marine since there is just one entity for both teams. But an option for that might be the sprite/model combination at that point aswell. like a marine model as a base and the hitbox of an onos around it as sprite. something like that. we'll see <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

edit: just wondering.. what does IIRC mean?

moultano

Dude, that would so rock. It would seriously have saved me hours of work. I'ts gotten to the point that I don't even bother trying to reorient light spots, I just copy and paste them because I hate trying to figure out where they are actually pointing. Get over to customization and request a very low poly arrow immediately! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->