<!--QuoteBegin-|ds|meatshield+Jul 21 2004, 10:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|ds|meatshield @ Jul 21 2004, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look EEK. Bunnyhopping is impossible (due to lag) without binding +jump to mwheel or without the use of a 3jump script. Take it out, and you take out bunnyhopping.
On anotehr note. How do you guys use the 3jump script well? I can't bhop nearly as well using that compared to when I use the mousewheel <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Liar. I can bunnyhop. Mousewheel is "Request Orders" My spacebar means one jump. It takes time and *gasp* effort to learn how, but it is possible. I may not be the best bunnyhopper, but I didn't even try to learn for some time, and I get better consistently. Bunnyhopping is not dependant upon scripting in any way.
Meh, it's a simple solution. Servers are allowed to disable scripts at will, and two equally ignorant sides stop fighting with eachother. The anti-scripting side gets their relief in knowing the evil reign of scripting has ended, or whatever, and the pro-scripting side simply adjusts to playing without something they themselves often state gives an incredibly minimal advantage. Afterall, truly skilled players can easily adapt to such a thing (Or so they often state). Both sides come out happy.
I don't see why this always turns into an argument. The simple fact is most people who have played the game for awhile script. Most good players script. The scripts didn't make them good, practice and experience makes them good. The scripts help them and give them a slight advantage, kinda like tweaking your sensitivity till it fits you perfectly and you can hit those bunnyhopping/leaping skulks. The one thing the scripters have on their side is that ANYONE can do it. So your argument is invalid. For example, if we were running a marathon, and you showed up without shoes, you would demand everyone take their shoes off to make it fair to you because you were too retarded to go to Foot Locker and buy a pair.
So, in closing, if scripters are **** you off and you feel nubbed due to scripts, go get them and shut up about it. Just don't be surprised if you don't become the leet player you hoped you would be after getting them.
Scripting has been left in for a reason. I don't understand why so many people act like scripts are such evil things. I also refuse to let people like eek, who blindly attack people for things they don't understand hijack this thread. This thread was made with the purpose of PROVING that scripts are not some type of hack, or something that needs to be blocked. They're a part of the game for advanced players to use to make the game more convenient or simpler. If you're going to sit here and **** about them, then at least go and put some in your config and try it out. If you're suddenly doing things you've never dreamed of like going 100-0 then maybe you have a right to complain. However, since I know this won't happen (unless you're already insanely good) you really have no basis to hate, let alone block. scripts. Open your mind for a moment and accept that scripts aren't some evil thing that needs to be stamped out, and maybe you'll see that this really is the case, like I did.
<!--QuoteBegin-moomin.+Jul 21 2004, 10:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moomin. @ Jul 21 2004, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OK, so why does mp_block<b>scripts</b> block the binding of +attack and +jump to a perfectly valid key? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because every conversation on scripts, someone pops in and says "well I can just do that with my mousewheel if you take out scripts". Someone noticed, I guess.
<!--QuoteBegin-blackholedreams+Jul 21 2004, 11:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackholedreams @ Jul 21 2004, 11:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Scripting has been left in for a reason. I don't understand why so many people act like scripts are such evil things. I also refuse to let people like eek, who blindly attack people for things they don't understand hijack this thread. This thread was made with the purpose of PROVING that scripts are not some type of hack, or something that needs to be blocked. They're a part of the game for advanced players to use to make the game more convenient or simpler. If you're going to sit here and **** about them, then at least go and put some in your config and try it out. If you're suddenly doing things you've never dreamed of like going 100-0 then maybe you have a right to complain. However, since I know this won't happen (unless you're already insanely good) you really have no basis to hate, let alone block. scripts. Open your mind for a moment and accept that scripts aren't some evil thing that needs to be stamped out, and maybe you'll see that this really is the case, like I did. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Makes me laugh,
I know how to make scripts, I have never used them, and I'm not a nobody NSplayer. (not even close)
Three questions that needs to be answered!
Why do you use them?
If they dont make things easier, then why do you use them?
If there is no advantage, why do you use them?
I know many people that can compete on the level of people who use them. I just all around respect those players more becauses they dont use "shortcuts".
Another thing that Makes me POed is all those people who are ok with scripts call those who are against noobs, nubs and other names. While these players are at the level if not higher than them. The name calling goes both ways.
If it doesnt aim for you or tell you if someone is coming, I'm all for it.
I don't script myself, personally, for two reasons. One, I don't need to, I like the hands on gameplay and full control. Two, I am too lazy to write scripts. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Why must we complain about something over and over again? If you don't like scripts, don't use them! Simple solution for a simple problem! Have you ever thought that people have some sort of handicap? Shoot, I get 20 fps on a good day! Maybe I should have a bhop script! Would be easier for a computer to bhop than me. And those pistol shootin scripts! Big deal! Just because you didn't think of it first doesn't mean you should complain about it!
From a non-script using point of view, I don't see the problem in scripting. So lets quit the complaining and play some NS! Shoot, I play NS religiously, and I still realize its a game, not reality! (By the way, reality doesn't get nerfed, does it?)
Lol I found this picture posted by Trev somewhere... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Made me laugh GJ good post!
<!--QuoteBegin-TheDestroyer+Jul 21 2004, 11:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheDestroyer @ Jul 21 2004, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (By the way, reality doesn't get nerfed, does it?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ya it does, its called Old AGE
I know how to make scripts, I have never used them, and I'm not a nobody NSplayer. (not even close)
Three questions that needs to be answered!
Why do you use them?
If they dont make things easier, then why do you use them?
If there is no advantage, why do you use them?
I know many people that can compete on the level of people who use them. I just all around respect those players more becauses they dont use "shortcuts".
Another thing that Makes me POed is all those people who are ok with scripts call those who are against noobs, nubs and other names. While these players are at the level if not higher than them. The name calling goes both ways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I use them because they streamline the game. They give me an additional level of customization and expedite some commonly used tasks I do. I really don't think they make me better, but they help make the game more comfortable. I had plenty of skill before I ever used them, so I don't see any validity to your argument.
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jul 21 2004, 05:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jul 21 2004, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ahah the second voogru got dev i knew ns would start dieing when he started implementing stuff <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I did not implement anything.
I fixed something that was already there before I even started.
<!--QuoteBegin-blackholedreams+Jul 22 2004, 12:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackholedreams @ Jul 22 2004, 12:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They give me an additional level of customization and expedite some commonly used tasks I do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I aim commonly
I'm sure this isn't the first time scripting's been discussed, but this has gotten a bit too flamey to be allowed to continue. If you guys can't have a rational, sensible discussion, then you won't be having any discussion at all.
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On anotehr note. How do you guys use the 3jump script well? I can't bhop nearly as well using that compared to when I use the mousewheel <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Liar. I can bunnyhop. Mousewheel is "Request Orders" My spacebar means one jump. It takes time and *gasp* effort to learn how, but it is possible. I may not be the best bunnyhopper, but I didn't even try to learn for some time, and I get better consistently. Bunnyhopping is not dependant upon scripting in any way.
Also: Scripting is built into the engine, aimbots are not. Shut up.
For example, if we were running a marathon, and you showed up without shoes, you would demand everyone take their shoes off to make it fair to you because you were too retarded to go to Foot Locker and buy a pair.
So, in closing, if scripters are **** you off and you feel nubbed due to scripts, go get them and shut up about it. Just don't be surprised if you don't become the leet player you hoped you would be after getting them.
alias -3jumps "-jump"
bind space "+3jumps"
is that all this is about? gah noob brain freeze
If this is implemented, and the players start owning again, we are going to get OMG H4x.
No key should do more than 1 action. That is my stance.
Because every conversation on scripts, someone pops in and says "well I can just do that with my mousewheel if you take out scripts". Someone noticed, I guess.
Makes me laugh,
I know how to make scripts, I have never used them, and I'm not a nobody NSplayer. (not even close)
Three questions that needs to be answered!
Why do you use them?
If they dont make things easier, then why do you use them?
If there is no advantage, why do you use them?
I know many people that can compete on the level of people who use them. I just all around respect those players more becauses they dont use "shortcuts".
Another thing that Makes me POed is all those people who are ok with scripts call those who are against noobs, nubs and other names. While these players are at the level if not higher than them. The name calling goes both ways.
I don't script myself, personally, for two reasons. One, I don't need to, I like the hands on gameplay and full control. Two, I am too lazy to write scripts. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Why must we complain about something over and over again? If you don't like scripts, don't use them! Simple solution for a simple problem! Have you ever thought that people have some sort of handicap? Shoot, I get 20 fps on a good day! Maybe I should have a bhop script! Would be easier for a computer to bhop than me. And those pistol shootin scripts! Big deal! Just because you didn't think of it first doesn't mean you should complain about it!
From a non-script using point of view, I don't see the problem in scripting. So lets quit the complaining and play some NS! Shoot, I play NS religiously, and I still realize its a game, not reality! (By the way, reality doesn't get nerfed, does it?)
Lol I found this picture posted by Trev somewhere... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Made me laugh GJ good post!
Ya it does, its called Old AGE
Every Ten, you get nerfed, 18-27 are prime!
I know how to make scripts, I have never used them, and I'm not a nobody NSplayer. (not even close)
Three questions that needs to be answered!
Why do you use them?
If they dont make things easier, then why do you use them?
If there is no advantage, why do you use them?
I know many people that can compete on the level of people who use them. I just all around respect those players more becauses they dont use "shortcuts".
Another thing that Makes me POed is all those people who are ok with scripts call those who are against noobs, nubs and other names. While these players are at the level if not higher than them. The name calling goes both ways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I use them because they streamline the game. They give me an additional level of customization and expedite some commonly used tasks I do. I really don't think they make me better, but they help make the game more comfortable. I had plenty of skill before I ever used them, so I don't see any validity to your argument.
FOR THE LAST TIME:
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><b>SCRIPTS =/= SKILLS
</b></span>
I did not implement anything.
I fixed something that was already there before I even started.
They give me an additional level of customization and expedite some commonly used tasks I do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I aim commonly
I think I'll expedite that!