Ns Co Vr 68.400

Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Just a thought of kool things for NS</div> I thougt of something kool over a couple of days and thought it might be nice to give my thoughts to you about things that would own in NS (new version, long from now)

Ill seperate what i think into 4 collums: Marines,Aliens,Game Changes,ALT fires

MARINES:
- marines should now have ALT fire for all their weapons
- NEW WEAPON: smoke grenades : has about 20 smoke
- NEW WEAPON: med pack: infante heal with the cost of loosing primary weapons and other equipment.
- NEW WEAPON: triggered bombs: 500 damage
- NEW WEAPON: gauss riffle: instant kill on gorges and skulks and takes down half of everything else except onos: can shoot through walls with motion on: has a scope with thermal
- NEW UPGRADE: Building deffence: adds some more HP to buildings
- NEW UPGRADE: Shock Field: adds range to electrified structures
- NEW WEAPON ABILITY: instead off haveing a unit run over mines they have lasers so a unit walks infront of it and it detonates (can still be walked on)

ALIEN:
- aliens should now have alt fires
- NEW UNIT: Hive Guard: costs 10000 res and needs to be onos:has 1000 hp and 1000 armr: this unit has 4 attacks: bite, devour groups (means you can devour 5 players at a time),Carrier picks up units that are small like gorge, skulk, and lerk (can only have 5 units at a time, and takes off spawning on this unit when that limit is reached), leeches (CPU units that have 1 hp but if contact can instantly kill a marine)and you can spawn from this unit.
- NEW BUILDING ABILITY: Ocs are now for weapon upgrades: and they can still attack
- NEW BUILDING ABILLITY: when ever you stack buildings the bases attach to the bbuilding below it.
- NEW UPGRADE: plus 5 dmg to all bite attacks (skulk lerk and onos attack)
- NEW UPGRADE: plus 5 dmg to spit and slash attacks (Fade and gorge)
- NEW UPGRADE: webs are barely visible

GAME CHANGES:
- you can choose where you spawn (marines IPS aliens HIVES and HIve Guards)
- you must kill the remainiing aliens or marines when their hive/comm/ip go down
- Comm can now give different commands to players like: repair that structure, guard this area, this unit needs a medic.
- The comm chair has a radius for spawwning ammo and med kits and catalist
- when being devoured you can only have your knife and knife open an onos or HG but only does 2 dmg to player.
- When completly devoured body and weapons do not show up on floor and your view goes black inside the stomacha than it shows the death message
- new devour bar so mariens have a little blue bar going across and the alieans have a little orange bar tht looks alien ish (the marine and alien bar are not the little white bar with the blue thing, they are like the combat bar except the bars keep going to the right and when reached the player dies.
- the flash light for aliens shows thermal now so they can see the marines
-you can have 10000 res for aliens ( the little 100/100 thing will be eliminated)

Alt FIRES:
PISTOL: pistol Wip 8 dmg
LMG: small scope (no thermal)
KNIFE: through knife 16 dmg (can be picked up again)
SHOT GUN: insinarary shots (flame shots)
HMG: make it stationary
GL: different type of grenades : smoke : timed : regular:
GRENADE: roll the grenaee
MINES: enable laser pointers (press e on them; MARINES ONLY; and lasers go off)
WELDER: can weld doors shut
MED KIT: take a diegnostic
GAUSS RIFFLE: scope (thermal)

BITE: a harder bite
PARASITE: an attack not a tracer
LEAP: leap farther using all energy
XENOMORPH: time the explosion
SPIT: spit on ally units to tell them that you need help (higlight you on thermal vesion to that player)
HEAL: as an attack not a heal:
WEB: web a player (more afective than the web player on vs 3.0)
BIOBOMB: hurts armour
LERK BITE: those little spikes from 2.0
SPORES: lasts alot longer but takes up all energy
UMBRA: lasts less with less energy (this is primary secondary is the normal attack in 3.0)
PRIMAL SCREAM: bigger radius and alot longer for all energy( normal takes half energy now)
SLASH: you can cary a player to a unit and they can only knife you
BLINK: telaport to whare your looking
METOMORPHIS: heal a unti your looking at
BIO ROCKET: tells unit to attack this plaer
STOMP:stops multiple units for more nergy
DEVOUR: devour a small building turret ip
CHARGE: go for half the energy for a shorter distance (this is primary the normal 3.0 attack is seconddary)
DEVOUR GRUPS: devour big and small bui9ldings (all structs)
PICKUP: drop units
LEECHES: call them to a certain area
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Comments

  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Hoo boy.. Something tells me this isnt going to end nicely.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    1) should be in I&S
    2) violates almost ever faq rule in there from what im guessing. only read the first 4 suggestions. but i dont see it getting any better.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xain90+Jul 24 2004, 08:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xain90 @ Jul 24 2004, 08:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thougt of something kool over a couple of days and thought it might be nice to give my thoughts to you about things that would own in NS (new version, long from now)

    Ill seperate what i think into 4 collums: Marines,Aliens,Game Changes,ALT fires

    MARINES:
    - marines should now have ALT fire for all their weapons
    - NEW WEAPON: smoke grenades : has about 20 smoke
    - NEW WEAPON: med pack: infante heal with the cost of loosing primary weapons and other equipment.
    - NEW WEAPON: triggered bombs: 500 damage
    - NEW WEAPON: gauss riffle: instant kill on gorges and skulks and takes down half of everything else except onos: can shoot through walls with motion on: has a scope with thermal
    - NEW UPGRADE: Building deffence: adds some more HP to buildings
    - NEW UPGRADE: Shock Field: adds range to electrified structures
    - NEW WEAPON ABILITY: instead off haveing a unit run over mines they have lasers so a unit walks infront of it and it detonates (can still be walked on)

    ALIEN:
    - aliens should now have alt fires
    - NEW UNIT: Hive Guard: costs 10000 res and needs to be onos:has 1000 hp and 1000 armr: this unit has 4 attacks: bite, devour groups (means you can devour 5 players at a time),Carrier picks up units that are small like gorge, skulk, and lerk (can only have 5 units at a time, and takes off spawning on this unit when that limit is reached), leeches (CPU units that have 1 hp but if contact can instantly kill a marine)and you can spawn from this unit.
    - NEW BUILDING ABILITY: Ocs are now for weapon upgrades: and they can still attack
    - NEW BUILDING ABILLITY: when ever you stack buildings the bases attach to the bbuilding below it.
    - NEW UPGRADE: plus 5 dmg to all bite attacks (skulk lerk and onos attack)
    - NEW UPGRADE: plus 5 dmg to spit and slash attacks (Fade and gorge)
    - NEW UPGRADE: webs are barely visible

    GAME CHANGES:
    - you can choose where you spawn (marines IPS aliens HIVES and HIve Guards)
    - you must kill the remainiing aliens or marines when their hive/comm/ip go down
    - Comm can now give different commands to players like: repair that structure, guard this area, this unit needs a medic.
    - The comm chair has a radius for spawwning ammo and med kits and catalist
    - when being devoured you can only have your knife and knife open an onos or HG but only does 2 dmg to player.
    - When completly devoured body and weapons do not show up on floor and your view goes black inside the stomacha than it shows the death message
    - new devour bar so mariens have a little blue bar going across and the alieans have a little orange bar tht looks alien ish (the marine and alien bar are not the little white bar with the blue thing, they are like the combat bar except the bars keep going to the right and when reached the player dies.
    - the flash light for aliens shows thermal now so they can see the marines
    -you can have 10000 res for aliens ( the little 100/100 thing will be eliminated)

    Alt FIRES:
    PISTOL: pistol Wip 8 dmg
    LMG: small scope (no thermal)
    KNIFE: through knife 16 dmg (can be picked up again)
    SHOT GUN: insinarary shots (flame shots)
    HMG: make it stationary
    GL: different type of grenades : smoke : timed : regular:
    GRENADE: roll the grenaee
    MINES: enable laser pointers (press e on them; MARINES ONLY; and lasers go off)
    WELDER: can weld doors shut
    MED KIT: take a diegnostic
    GAUSS RIFFLE: scope (thermal)

    BITE: a harder bite
    PARASITE: an attack not a tracer
    LEAP: leap farther using all energy
    XENOMORPH: time the explosion
    SPIT: spit on ally units to tell them that you need help (higlight you on thermal vesion to that player)
    HEAL: as an attack not a heal:
    WEB: web a player (more afective than the web player on vs 3.0)
    BIOBOMB: hurts armour
    LERK BITE: those little spikes from 2.0
    SPORES: lasts alot longer but takes up all energy
    UMBRA: lasts less with less energy (this is primary secondary is the normal attack in 3.0)
    PRIMAL SCREAM: bigger radius and alot longer for all energy( normal takes half energy now)
    SLASH: you can cary a player to a unit and they can only knife you
    BLINK: telaport to whare your looking
    METOMORPHIS: heal a unti your looking at
    BIO ROCKET: tells unit to attack this plaer
    STOMP:stops multiple units for more nergy
    DEVOUR: devour a small building turret ip
    CHARGE: go for half the energy for a shorter distance (this is primary the normal 3.0 attack is seconddary)
    DEVOUR GRUPS: devour big and small bui9ldings (all structs)
    PICKUP: drop units
    LEECHES: call them to a certain area <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oddly, half of your suggestions were in a old NS.

    They didn't work well.

    ...and as John said- you are obstructing just about every rule there is in there.
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    Hey i was just thinking about AVP2 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> adn it seemd lkool to me causs i had AVP2 skinz
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    actually now that i think about it, we might need some more rules for i&s...



    welcome to the forums though!
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    im just new to the fourms and thats all and WTH is up with that color crap on my sig?
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    [SG][COLOR=<b>yellow</b>]AsSaSsIn[COLOR=<b>green</b>][XK]

    conflicting colours. Should be <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->[COLOR=yellow]Insert text here[/COLOR]<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    when you what to finish a color you have to end with [/COLOR]

    so your sig would be like

    [SG][COLOR=yellow]AsSaSsIn[/colorr][COLOR=green][XK][/colorr]

    except with only 1 r in color
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xain90+Jul 24 2004, 11:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xain90 @ Jul 24 2004, 11:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> - NEW WEAPON ABILITY: instead off haveing a unit run over mines they have lasers so a unit walks infront of it and it detonates (can still be walked on) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hay that's crazy why would anyone ever do that

    IBTL ftw lollerz
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    thnx and does any one think anything i said seemed to be a little kool?
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i few things would be cool, but most of them either arnt possible, have been done and didnt work, would completely unbalance the game, or are against the faq in the i&s forums.
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=5' target='_blank'>in case you didnt know this is the i&s forums.</a>
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    Dear Xain90,

    We here at the Natural-Selection forums are writing to infom you that your attempt at being the next smart_bomb has failed. Better luck next time kid.

    With Love,
    The denizens of the forums.
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    ill make a AVP game when i get older and it will be a kik **** game with mechs and all the other **** the FAQ says <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xain90+Jul 24 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xain90 @ Jul 24 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thnx and does any one think anything i said seemed to be a little kool? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry to say it but, No.

    You list too many weapons, most of which would be totally unbalanced and pointless to have, especially the "Insta-kill" and "wall-shooting" weapons, motion tracking on or not.

    Think about it, Marines can see every alien on the map with Motion on. And now they can shoot them through walls before aliens can even see them? That would totally destroy the game.

    Alternative fire is not going to happen, being able to weld every door on the map? Aliens would then have to rely soley on vents.

    Hand grenades can already be rolled by throwing them while crouching.

    I'm not going to go through all of them. It might be wise to think ideas through before posting them.

    and its spelt "cool" not "kool" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    grrr i was just speaking my mind adn the Hive guard could own but i failed as a gamer to bring you some thing that would be "cool"
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Well hey, if anyone other than Flayra had come up with Onos devour and Structure electrication we would have laughed and called them crazy.

    The original NS Plan has crazy stuff like smoke grenades and Alien commanders in it too.
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    You forgot an alien that hovers without flapping.

    God i can't believe i posted that pathetic joke.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Holy.. some of the ideas are good. But eh.. you're basicly suggesting a whole new game.
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    i think somne one needs to make a AVP mod
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    Well granted, he is new. A few weeks of ns and he'll realise why these ideas just won't work.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xain90+Jul 24 2004, 04:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xain90 @ Jul 24 2004, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> grrr i was just speaking my mind adn the Hive guard could own but i failed as a gamer to bring you some thing that would be "cool"
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It might be cool, but ask yourself this: Is it really needed? Right now aliens can defend their hive pretty well w/o a guard. So it's useless to add it. Who in gods name would save 10000 res to sit a hive and defend it. And that while the hive can be defend w/o the guard. Not me..
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    and im not new you jack **** im new to the forms ive been playing NS sense 1.4




    THE GUARD WILL OWN see i tried to even it out with he gauss but no....
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    Plus these ideas would pose months of content creation work, and would ultimately be impossible to balance ; it would just get too complicated.
  • IceBaronIceBaron Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13954Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xain90+Jul 24 2004, 10:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xain90 @ Jul 24 2004, 10:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and im not new you jack **** im new to the forms ive been playing NS sense 1.4




    THE GUARD WILL OWN see i tried to even it out with he gauss but no.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I find that hard to believe. No offence, you just sound like you are new to this game with these kind of ideas.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Lol, if you're gonna start like this.. things won't be too pretty for you..
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    Please don't be offended <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> also its 1.04.
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    fine think that im new but i still kik at being comm and dont even show up on Sven
  • Xain90Xain90 Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30079Members
    now that i think of it those are pretty **** (except for the HG)
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Hmm, just wondering. What does Ns Co Vr 68.400 mean anyway :\
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