Hiding Files On A Pc

Sky

IM your brother with the link for this topic...he'll get the idea <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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TheWizard

Comprox, I suggest you check this out.

I completely forgot about encryption.
<a href='http://www.iopus.com/guides/efs.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.iopus.com/guides/efs.htm</a>

With encryption you can prevent other users from accessing the data. Even if the other user reinstalls windows. You should play around a bit (create a dummy account with admin rights) and see if you can delete it.

Or you can try the <b>really sneaky </b>approach.

1. Place all of your important data into a single folder or uncompressed zip (rar even).
2. Write a small program (less than a page) that 'opens' this file and locks it (opening it should lock it by default)
3. configure windows to run this program on startup (simple registry hack)
4. Give the program a nonconspicuous name such as windows32.exe

Now, when this program runs it will lock your data and windows should prevent any access to this file (other than read) while the locking program is running. It is highly unlikely your brother would realize that windows32.exe is the process that is causing the file lock.

Whenever you want to delete/move data all you have to do is terminate the process (or better yet, give it the command to release the filestream)

Check out this Knowledgebase article (Cause 2) for more information.
<a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320081' target='_blank'>MS knowledgebase article</a>

Zig

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DragonMech

Why don't you send it to a Gmail account? Break it up into pieces the size of GMail's max attatchment size and mail them to yourself. Is that an option, or are the files too big?

Sky

Hundreds of floppies

Comprox

Lets justt say I would need about 25 Gmail accounts to do that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Someone did mention that create a program to open the file and run on startup which is another good idea. At 2am last night, I did not have any coding programs on the family PC to do so tho... maybe when I get home to be safe...

antifreeze

I have over 80Gb of stuff hidden on my pc. Well how did i do it simple. Set access rights to a folder so nobody else can even open it. Nomatter if your an admin or not, you can only access the drive or change its permissions if you a user thats allowed to <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Dorian_Gray

<!--QuoteBegin-antifreeze+Jul 28 2004, 03:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (antifreeze @ Jul 28 2004, 03:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have over 80Gb of stuff hidden on my pc. Well how did i do it simple. Set access rights to a folder so nobody else can even open it. Nomatter if your an admin or not, you can only access the drive or change its permissions if you a user thats allowed to <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I tried that, but another admin could access it, even when that account was specifically denied rights to said file/folder. So far, Marik's solution is the best though. Unless he knows that there's a lot of spacing suddenly missing from his drive, and knows how to put the drive letter back, that'll work perfectly.

Edit: And the "Administrator" account can override those permissions as well.

antifreeze

I hevent been able to get into that folder with being given specific access. Must just be a windows 2k sorta thing

CommunistWithAGun

my friend is so dumb he hides his porn in the recycle bin (no lie) whats even more sad is his parents never notice.



(Tweak-XP has a function to hide files)

antifreeze

yeah, well. I could think of more stupid places. And i dont think its sad, it's smart if it works.

SoulSkorpion

Swap all the desktop and startmenu shortcuts. What you swap them <i>with</i> is an exercise left to the reader.

RaVe

Meh....I know the best way to extract revenge for teh muh!

1) Bring up a picture of ye olde desktop (hopefully non of the dynamic/animated sort)
2) PrintScreen!
3) Open up any image editing program and save (Yes Paint can do that)
4) Set said image as wallpaper
5) Hide desktop icons.

Voila! Non-clickable icons!
FOR TEH MUH! (muh)

devicenull

Easy way:
Create a few dos batch files that rename a folder to something with high ascii characters.. Anything that you wouldnt normally see will do.
Explorer chokes on em, and cant do ANYTHING with them..
Just keep those on a floppy.
Theres actually COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE that does this, but dont bother with it.

Theres another more evil way, but I dont want to go into it on public forums, for fear it will be patched.. its actually a windows bug.

How bout
attrib +r +s +h?
Read only hidden system files?

Chrono

i suggestion would be to just put the files on his computer say SUYF and sit down my new HD will be here soon you can take the slow down for a bit and if he argues you back hand him across the face o this only works if you can kick his **** <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

im_lost

Antifreeze, how did you get to that window for changing file access?

Bry

<!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Antifreeze, how did you get to that window for changing file access? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
your drive must be formatted to ntfs instead of fat32

V_MAN

<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 28 2004, 07:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 28 2004, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Format the computer and leav a sticky note saying windows was taking up too much space. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This sounds funny

Codeman

<!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Jul 29 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Jul 29 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh....I know the best way to extract revenge for teh muh!

1) Bring up a picture of ye olde desktop (hopefully non of the dynamic/animated sort)
2) PrintScreen!
3) Open up any image editing program and save (Yes Paint can do that)
4) Set said image as wallpaper
5) Hide desktop icons.

Voila! Non-clickable icons!
FOR TEH MUH! (muh) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
YUS!

a friend and i did this to an entire computer room in highschool.
plain blue backgrounds, no icons (school standard desktop) and a notepad window in middle of screen.

we did the printscreen thing and made taskbar disappear.... omg so funny when all the nubs can't go look for games or porn (or do schoolwork even... muahaha)

another fun thing if you've got 2 pc's facing away from each other (at a lan perhaps?) is to swap their rat and keyboards over so you are controlling the 'other' pc while it's owner/user watches you do stupid things like mash ctrl+alt+delete (they panic enough when the kb/rat dont respond.... then when it restarts sudenly, muahahaha!)

honestly though comprox if you're bigger than he is just beat his **** and delete all his stuff, then change the password on his account (or disable it, either works well)

another evil trick is to boot knoppix off a cd and leave it running (smart-arses generally dont know linux very well, and using knoppix means when you take cd out and reboot you're back in windows....)

antifreeze

<!--QuoteBegin-Bry+Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Antifreeze, how did you get to that window for changing file access? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
your drive must be formatted to ntfs instead of fat32 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correct, So even if i re install windows without the correct username and password i cant access the folder

RaVe

<!--QuoteBegin-Codeman+Jul 29 2004, 04:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Codeman @ Jul 29 2004, 04:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Jul 29 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Jul 29 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh....I know the best way to extract revenge for teh muh!

1) Bring up a picture of ye olde desktop (hopefully  non of the dynamic/animated sort)
2) PrintScreen!
3) Open up any image editing program and save (Yes Paint can do that)
4) Set said image as wallpaper
5) Hide desktop icons.

Voila! Non-clickable icons!
FOR TEH MUH! (muh) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
YUS!

a friend and i did this to an entire computer room in highschool.
plain blue backgrounds, no icons (school standard desktop) and a notepad window in middle of screen.

we did the printscreen thing and made taskbar disappear.... omg so funny when all the nubs can't go look for games or porn (or do schoolwork even... muahaha)

another fun thing if you've got 2 pc's facing away from each other (at a lan perhaps?) is to swap their rat and keyboards over so you are controlling the 'other' pc while it's owner/user watches you do stupid things like mash ctrl+alt+delete (they panic enough when the kb/rat dont respond.... then when it restarts sudenly, muahahaha!)

honestly though comprox if you're bigger than he is just beat his **** and delete all his stuff, then change the password on his account (or disable it, either works well)

another evil trick is to boot knoppix off a cd and leave it running (smart-arses generally dont know linux very well, and using knoppix means when you take cd out and reboot you're back in windows....) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My method actually makes fake icons. They look like they're there, but they aren't.

I suppose the best way to hide to files would be to zip them, change the extensions to .dll/.sys/.<important file suffix here> and move them to a folder named 'backup' in the Windows folder.

raz0r

But you should put some porn icons on the fake desktop aswell, so if the parents come in, he's frantically trying to delete them.




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RaVe

Meh. That's easy.

IDIOT'S GUIDE TO FAKING PR0N! (Not implying that you guys are, but the general populace I've been with are, or have been)
1) Copy an image file to desktop
2) Renamde file to something like err....'hot chick.jpg' or something.
3) Resume steps to fake desktop
4) Delete file from desktop.
5) Hide icons.

And while I'm at it, I think I'll erase their taskbar XD

1) Color taskbar in whatever base color it is (probably the default Windows dull grey)
2) With taskbar out, PrintScreen
3) Continue with said fake desktop.
4) Activate auto-hide on taskbar and put it on top of the screen so you actually have to move your mouse up.
5) *optional* reduce size of taskbar so that it isn't possible to see
6) Hide icons.

Zaggy

Pff can't you just have a good conversation with your brother or at least try to back up that 100 gig onto DVD's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, or as said you could try to use some encryption method...but if your bro is smart enough he WILL find out...

BlackMage

encrypt with <a href='http://www.gnupg.org/' target='_blank'>gpg</a> (or just rar/zip it) change the ext to .dll and save it in the windows folder (dont forget to set read only, hidden and system flags)

im_lost

<!--QuoteBegin-antifreeze+Jul 29 2004, 02:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (antifreeze @ Jul 29 2004, 02:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bry+Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Antifreeze, how did you get to that window for changing file access? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
your drive must be formatted to ntfs instead of fat32 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correct, So even if i re install windows without the correct username and password i cant access the folder <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure I understand what it does, I just can't get to that screen in the first place. My computer is formatted to ntfs, and when I go to properties the tabs I see are General, Sharing, and Customize. I don't have any particular need for doing this right now, I would just like to know how.

TheWizard

<!--QuoteBegin-Comprox+Jul 28 2004, 05:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Jul 28 2004, 05:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lets justt say I would need about 25 Gmail accounts to do that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Someone did mention that create a program to open the file and run on startup which is another good idea. At 2am last night, I did not have any coding programs on the family PC to do so tho... maybe when I get home to be safe... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am feeling benevolent today, so when I get home from work I will code an example for you.

I would do it at work, but I think the govn't would think strangely of me writing code that behaves like a virus.

Thansal

Wiz:
Acts like a virus? I what way
isn't the deff of a Virus simple self replicating (or self modifying) code (aka, it spreads)?

Or am I confuzling things again?

antifreeze

<!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 29 2004, 03:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 29 2004, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-antifreeze+Jul 29 2004, 02:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (antifreeze @ Jul 29 2004, 02:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bry+Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Jul 29 2004, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Antifreeze, how did you get to that window for changing file access? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
your drive must be formatted to ntfs instead of fat32 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correct, So even if i re install windows without the correct username and password i cant access the folder <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure I understand what it does, I just can't get to that screen in the first place. My computer is formatted to ntfs, and when I go to properties the tabs I see are General, Sharing, and Customize. I don't have any particular need for doing this right now, I would just like to know how. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What OS?

im_lost

XP, with administrator access.