Natural Selection Criticism

NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">New But Harsh Look On NS</div> After reading the thread about the discrimination thing, Iv'e come to the conclusion that this fourm should be run however it wants to be run. This is indeed a private froum because people have to register and not a public fourm. It is indeed associated with the company that is making NS. But I don't you agree that this forum is still discrimatory a little bit? Some of the poss that was linked by some guy to Federalist's list of posts seem not to be very thought out. That can mean that NS is kind of giving people with unique and special though orocesses a hard time. Furthermore I believe that while NS is one of the best mods for the Half-Life, I believe that it is unfair to be so deticated in this one game. It seams like people spend more time on these fourms than actually playing the game. Ther are a lack of good servers and full servers by players. In all on steam there are few servers that are actually active. In contrast to the posts per day on these fourms it seems like people are just here to think that they are better than other Mod communities. Like a feeling that they are superior than people who play CS. It seems to me more people play cs than care about the fourms.

To my point about NS. I feel that it is a rip off game... NS is probablly "inspired" by Starcraft, Gloom, Aliens movies/games and than to blatenly try to copyright it is offenive. The term Natural Selection is coined by Darwin. And for Flayra to steal it and put it in a game and then copyright it so no others can use the name is obtuse. You shouldn't steal a term and use it and then copyright it so no other groups can use the name in a game or whaever. I suppose I can start a mod for HALF-LIFE 2 and call it Natural Selection. Does it matter if it gets objected to? NS has no case because it stole a term for itself. Can I use NS what do you think? Also maybe I can make the gameplay be inspired by NS but not identical?
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  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    edited July 2004
    Although this fourm is private does it still have the right to discriminate? Can I make a game called NS? Those are the two main points or questions.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    edited July 2004
    Although I do believe that federalist and snipermarine's posts even subversive trooper's were aimed at putting humor back to ns... To put much effort in the posts and getting "rewarded" for making people laugh...
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Sniper Marine, stop pretending like you care one iota about NS. You hate NS and this is yet another attempt at trolling because you enjoy disrupting this forum for whatever reason.

    If you want this guy to go away, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD OR ANY OTHER THREAD THAT HE POSTS.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    What is the out look from NS deticated players? NS is the best and admins have the totalitarian right on the fourms? The fourms is made up of posters, too.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 30 2004, 02:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 30 2004, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sniper Marine, stop pretending like you care one iota about NS. You hate NS and this is yet another attempt at trolling because you enjoy disrupting this forum for whatever reason.

    If you want this guy to go away, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD OR ANY OTHER THREAD THAT HE POSTS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Although I don't know why you think i am snipermarine. this guy sniperchance has a name resembling it. however if you read the marine's posts like i have. You may find out that some people think his or her posts were funnny. We need the community and all of it to decide on a poll if snipermarine should ahve been banned. And don't lock because we oppose.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    Now this is a flame, and TBH, i could prob get a temp-ban for this...

    Shut up.

    "This is indeed a private froum because people have to register and not a public fourm."

    First of all, it's public. Everyone can read it, but you have to register to POST. It stops smacktards spamming and posting offensive material.

    "Furthermore I believe that while NS is one of the best mods for the Half-Life, I believe that it is unfair to be so deticated in this one game. It seams like people spend more time on these fourms than actually playing the game."

    And? It's their choice...

    "Ther are a lack of good servers and full servers by players. In all on steam there are few servers that are actually active. In contrast to the posts per day on these fourms it seems like people are just here to think that they are better than other Mod communities. Like a feeling that they are superior than people who play CS. It seems to me more people play cs than care about the fourms."

    Alot of people believe the NS community is better than the CS community, so what? In general the CS community is full of cheaters and smacktards who have nothing better to do than ruin other people's fun.

    "To my point about NS. I feel that it is a rip off game... NS is probablly "inspired" by Starcraft, Gloom, Aliens movies/games and than to blatenly try to copyright it is offenive. The term Natural Selection is coined by Darwin. And for Flayra to steal it and put it in a game and then copyright it so no others can use the name is obtuse. You shouldn't steal a term and use it and then copyright it so no other groups can use the name in a game or whaever. I suppose I can start a mod for HALF-LIFE 2 and call it Natural Selection. Does it matter if it gets objected to? NS has no case because it stole a term for itself. Can I use NS what do you think? Also maybe I can make the gameplay be inspired by NS but not identical?"

    "OLL DESE GAMES HAVE TEH SAME WEAPONS OLL DAY IS STEALING OMGZ BANT"
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    We shold put a decision on this once and for all and let all members to post and not just lock this. If the members agree than this post will die out. If not it will live on.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jul 30 2004, 02:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jul 30 2004, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now this is a flame, and TBH, i could prob get a temp-ban for this...

    Shut up.

    "This is indeed a private froum because people have to register and not a public fourm."

    First of all, it's public. Everyone can read it, but you have to register to POST. It stops smacktards spamming and posting offensive material.

    "Furthermore I believe that while NS is one of the best mods for the Half-Life, I believe that it is unfair to be so deticated in this one game. It seams like people spend more time on these fourms than actually playing the game."

    And? It's their choice...

    "Ther are a lack of good servers and full servers by players. In all on steam there are few servers that are actually active. In contrast to the posts per day on these fourms it seems like people are just here to think that they are better than other Mod communities. Like a feeling that they are superior than people who play CS. It seems to me more people play cs than care about the fourms."

    Alot of people believe the NS community is better than the CS community, so what? In general the CS community is full of cheaters and smacktards who have nothing better to do than ruin other people's fun.

    "To my point about NS. I feel that it is a rip off game... NS is probablly "inspired" by Starcraft, Gloom, Aliens movies/games and than to blatenly try to copyright it is offenive. The term Natural Selection is coined by Darwin. And for Flayra to steal it and put it in a game and then copyright it so no others can use the name is obtuse. You shouldn't steal a term and use it and then copyright it so no other groups can use the name in a game or whaever. I suppose I can start a mod for HALF-LIFE 2 and call it Natural Selection. Does it matter if it gets objected to? NS has no case because it stole a term for itself. Can I use NS what do you think? Also maybe I can make the gameplay be inspired by NS but not identical?"

    "OLL DESE GAMES HAVE TEH SAME WEAPONS OLL DAY IS STEALING OMGZ BANT" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i said i agreed that it is private. I just thought just because it is private does it have the moral right to discriminate?
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Don't feed the troll kids.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    If we all think that whoever that opposes NS or criticizes it is marine sniper than we have a modern day witch hunt.
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited July 2004
    yes.. private means they'res....
    they're boards, they're rules,

    wana ask an important question.. yer age, location
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    whats up with the rule of ban evasion? If it is true that a troll comes back and acts and conforms to society than is there a reason to be angry at him or her? I am not spamming am i? I am puting my points here? And why do ypou think i am sniper marine?
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    this thread is incredible

    god bless you
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    just cause u learned yer lesson doesn't mean your punishment is over...

    can't go to prison and say.. ok, u have learned yer lesson, u can go.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-ssjyoda+Jul 30 2004, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Jul 30 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yes.. private means they'res....
    they're boards, they're rules, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if some person like anti-fed or someone posts some suggestion that he or she believes is the best suggestion he thorught of and gets banned because the admins think he is trolling while he does not than why is it that this board discriminates on people less fortunate?
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 30 2004, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 30 2004, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't feed the troll kids. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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    This guy is more persistent than Scooter-Blue, and the only way he's ever going to stop is if we IGNORE HIM. I'm no admin, so I shouldn't recommend punishment....but this is ridiculous. Anyone who responds to any new threads made by this guy or any of his future identities should be punished somehow.
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited July 2004
    u need to explain yourself better.

    im havin my fun talkin with this guy.. heh
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-ssjyoda+Jul 30 2004, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Jul 30 2004, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just cause u learned yer lesson doesn't mean your punishment is over...

    can't go to prison and say.. ok, u have learned yer lesson, u can go. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes i think Bush imprisons people who are democrats and wont forgive. what crime has been committed? ohh ya Mr. Execute Him?
  • AmplifierAmplifier Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26708Members, Constellation
    Dude WTH call of duty has the same weapons that DOD has... OMG COPYARR11111
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    this isn't a political discussion.

    nothing you are saying makes any sense..
    did u just get out of huggies..?
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    the weapons are absed on real weapons. ns is imaginary and so in Aliens.
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited July 2004
    so.. wolfenstien was first 3d fps, no one else is allowd to make one where u shoot ppl?

    its the way the world works, ppl make similar things all the time...
    if credit is given, all the better, which most mod teams do. NS does
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    but ns went out of its way and copyrighted the term Natural Selection for a game.
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    so no one would object if i amde a hl mod called NS?
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    I wonder if I'll see parts of this on somethingawful.
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited July 2004
    soo.. its a term, spielberg copyrighted the term jurrasic park...

    creative copyrighted their term to audio equipment.

    look at any product/company, it was a word before it became.



    ppl would object, but u can't use the ns name, and the game can not be too similar.
    many products are like that, different enough so i can be pattented
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-ssjyoda+Jul 30 2004, 02:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Jul 30 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> soo.. its a term,  spielberg copyrighted the term jurrasic park...

    creative copyrighted their term to audio equipment.

    look at any product/company, it was a word before it became. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    jarassic park has not been a term thought up before. It is a combination of 2 words while NS is already coined by science. Therefore it is wrong for them to copyright ns and would anyone object if i made a game called NS?
  • NSPlayer5NSPlayer5 Join Date: 2004-07-30 Member: 30253Banned
    edited July 2004
    jarassic park may have been said before but NS is a well known theory.
  • EmooEmoo Ibasa Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11198Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->so no one would object if i amde a hl mod called NS? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well the dev team wont be too happy about it and seeing as they own copyright on the words Natural-selection they can sue you on it. So if you want go ahead just be warned it might end up with you paying Flayra <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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