QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 6 2004, 09:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 6 2004, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Indeed. And I followed the instructions to the letter. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then try the "Nitro-Gore" mod. It should do it.
For the 32 player mod, which 2 files do i copy? the playerfix and connect tool or the doom3sp and connecttool or all 3? And will I still be able to play on Normal doom 3 servers?
wow; i unpacked the pk4s and did all the autoexec.cfg stuff and went to play; the game looked a lot better and i was getting only five FPS.
yeah kinda choppy...
went to check on video settings and noticed i was on 1024 at Ultra High Detail!
set it back to 800@Medium and im getting great frames on my geforce3ti!
unpacking the pk4s has helped with load times whenever soemthing new enters the area; i used to lag as a new monster teleported in to the room with me, but now they come in quite smoothly. --- Quanaut; did you say 1.28GB of ram or 128mb? the minimum reqs are 512, and ive never seen anyone with 1280...
I run at 800x600 at medium detail and for the most part my framerate is ~30. However, in some parts it drops drastically and I have to back into a corner and spray while praying that I hit them more than I don't.
In case I didn't post these before: Athlon 1.2Ghz 512MB RAM GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB
I tried setting detail to high but it made no difference, not in frames, not in appearance. And I still can't get guns or projectiles to produce light - the particle and muzzle flash is there, but they don't throw any photons!
I'm still gutted that I can't stretch to 1024x768 Medium Detail on a R9600 XT, 2600 XP+ and gig of DDR333 RAM and after a host of these tweaks <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium.
but seriously; the radeons will pick up dramatic performance increases in the next few driver releases.
the way i see it is that the older geforces just did raw number crunching, and the radeons have all sorts of higher level tricks that give them performance boosts for any mainstream game, but since doom3 is doing rendering in a whole new manner, radeon's tricks arent doing anything, while the geforces are performing mediocrely. give ATI a month to play with it and then theyll be back to beating the nvidia line.
edit: and my athlonXP 3600+ makes up for my geforce3ti200's limitations.
Yeah, the 4.9 CATs are a step in the right direction. It still looks bloody good at 800x600 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
No, I definately meant 1280mb of DDRAM. I had a spare $150, and I only had 256mb of RAM, so I got 2 512 sticks. They were the only pieces on my custom PC that I actually put in myself.
Also- yes, Radeons will be getting SIGNIFICANT bumps pretty soon, though if I were you, I'd do all you can to really pull out the extreme tweaking.
I myself am going to try unpacking the pk4s just so I can try going for 1024x768 detail. I'm just gonna have to copy the PK4s and swap them with my unpacked ones every time I want to MP, though I don't think I will be for a while.
...maybe if I unpack ALL the pk4s I can pull some even more extreme stuff. Who knows- I'll try after I beat it. Which I finally got to my 5th Standard enemy(I think its 5th- its the [possiblespoiler]floating heads[/possiblespoiler], and man that boss battle kicked ****, I actually almost died on it on easiest settings! But I"ll have to remember that grenades are my friend on that battle...oi vei <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Uh, which boss? I just beat Sarge... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The first one. All I have to say is "Spiders".
Oh, also, <span style='color:red'><b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>HERE IS A FIX FOR CWAG'S INSTA-HELPER!</span></b></span>
...thank God for mistakes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Basically, before you do CWAG's thing, just copy your base folder to the same folder. It should auto-rename itself to "Copy of Base"- after that, rename it to "mpdoom" or something to remind you, its multiplayer.
After that, just do CWAGs thing. Now, whenever you want to play Multiplayer, you just launch the game as usual, then go to mods, and launch mpdoom! Tahdah, no more having to switch out and stuff. GG.
You know, I just tried Doom 3 on Ultra settings and it ran at... a playable framerate. Look higher on this page and you'll see my specs. People, I think my computer has been posessed by Satan himself.
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The texture quality is almost entirely dependant on how much video ram you have and won't effect your fps, so that is normal. You'll notice that the game will freeze for a few seconds every time you enter a room when you play on ultra quality.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 07:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But it actually looks a hell of a lot better than the texture quality I had before. I mean extremely crisp stuff. This is starting to scare me... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Now for AA and ASF fulling, with vsync! I tried it too, got about 20 fps average, though it didn't look much different than high for me.
<!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Aug 7 2004, 02:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Aug 7 2004, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm still gutted that I can't stretch to 1024x768 Medium Detail on a R9600 XT, 2600 XP+ and gig of DDR333 RAM and after a host of these tweaks <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm doing 1024x768 with same ram P4 3.0Ghrz, and 9800pro 128Mgb on high settings, runs perfectly, and is friggin gorgeous.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 8 2004, 10:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 8 2004, 10:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, I just tried Doom 3 on Ultra settings and it ran at... a playable framerate. Look higher on this page and you'll see my specs. People, I think my computer has been posessed by Satan himself. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can run ultra setting with only 128mb video ram?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Doesnt it take like 500mb or something?
Here's a pretty good tweaking guide to help you maximize your FPS: <a href='http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/Doom3Guide.htm' target='_blank'>http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/Doom3Guide.htm</a>
I've been running on high detail getting a steady 40fps in 1024*768 and 50fps in 800*600
BizZy_9mm_MessiahOld School MemberJoin Date: 2003-07-25Member: 18411Members, Constellation
edited August 2004
Ati 9600 128mb
P4 2.533 GHz
1 gig of ram
Did all the tweaks, and my fps is ****. Especially during firefights, and in hell...OH EM GEE! I damn near threw my freaking monitor out the window just because the fps was so terrible I couldn't see ****!
[edit]And no offense RuBy, but that guide seems seriously lacking. Well, once they guy at tweakguides.com finishes his DOOM 3 one, thats the one people really need to use- he covers EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING, and really knows what he's talking about. Truly complete kind of stuff.
[edit]And no offense RuBy, but that guide seems seriously lacking. Well, once they guy at tweakguides.com finishes his DOOM 3 one, thats the one people really need to use- he covers EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING, and really knows what he's talking about. Truly complete kind of stuff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Errr ok if you say so but that didnt answer my question of how exactly hes playing on ultra high with 128mb video ram and not stutter so much that he dies...
<!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Aug 7 2004, 02:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Aug 7 2004, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm still gutted that I can't stretch to 1024x768 Medium Detail on a R9600 XT, 2600 XP+ and gig of DDR333 RAM and after a host of these tweaks <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Er.... I just installed a 9600XT at my friends house(upgrade from FX 5200). He has an Athlon 2800+, 786MB of ram(or whatever the number is) High quality in doom 3 800X600 nice FPS..so I don't know what your problem is. Latest drivers? Running the 4.9 betas?
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Didn't want to bump, but I figured this waranted it: This guy is the best tweak guide writer I've ever seen, and he's finished his first version of the DOOM 3 one. Here's the link
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Then try the "Nitro-Gore" mod. It should do it.
yeah kinda choppy...
went to check on video settings and noticed i was on 1024 at Ultra High Detail!
set it back to 800@Medium and im getting great frames on my geforce3ti!
unpacking the pk4s has helped with load times whenever soemthing new enters the area; i used to lag as a new monster teleported in to the room with me, but now they come in quite smoothly.
---
Quanaut; did you say 1.28GB of ram or 128mb? the minimum reqs are 512, and ive never seen anyone with 1280...
In case I didn't post these before:
Athlon 1.2Ghz
512MB RAM
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB
I tried setting detail to high but it made no difference, not in frames, not in appearance. And I still can't get guns or projectiles to produce light - the particle and muzzle flash is there, but they don't throw any photons!
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium.
but seriously; the radeons will pick up dramatic performance increases in the next few driver releases.
the way i see it is that the older geforces just did raw number crunching, and the radeons have all sorts of higher level tricks that give them performance boosts for any mainstream game, but since doom3 is doing rendering in a whole new manner, radeon's tricks arent doing anything, while the geforces are performing mediocrely. give ATI a month to play with it and then theyll be back to beating the nvidia line.
edit: and my athlonXP 3600+ makes up for my geforce3ti200's limitations.
Also- yes, Radeons will be getting SIGNIFICANT bumps pretty soon, though if I were you, I'd do all you can to really pull out the extreme tweaking.
I myself am going to try unpacking the pk4s just so I can try going for 1024x768 detail. I'm just gonna have to copy the PK4s and swap them with my unpacked ones every time I want to MP, though I don't think I will be for a while.
...maybe if I unpack ALL the pk4s I can pull some even more extreme stuff. Who knows- I'll try after I beat it. Which I finally got to my 5th Standard enemy(I think its 5th- its the [possiblespoiler]floating heads[/possiblespoiler], and man that boss battle kicked ****, I actually almost died on it on easiest settings! But I"ll have to remember that grenades are my friend on that battle...oi vei <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The first one. All I have to say is "Spiders".
Oh, also, <span style='color:red'><b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>HERE IS A FIX FOR CWAG'S INSTA-HELPER!</span></b></span>
...thank God for mistakes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Basically, before you do CWAG's thing, just copy your base folder to the same folder. It should auto-rename itself to "Copy of Base"- after that, rename it to "mpdoom" or something to remind you, its multiplayer.
After that, just do CWAGs thing. Now, whenever you want to play Multiplayer, you just launch the game as usual, then go to mods, and launch mpdoom! Tahdah, no more having to switch out and stuff. GG.
Now for AA and ASF fulling, with vsync! I tried it too, got about 20 fps average, though it didn't look much different than high for me.
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm doing 1024x768 with same ram P4 3.0Ghrz, and 9800pro 128Mgb on high settings, runs perfectly, and is friggin gorgeous.
You can run ultra setting with only 128mb video ram?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Doesnt it take like 500mb or something?
It does, but if you don't have enough vram it just spills over onto your hard drive and ram, and you get stuttering whenever you open a door as it loads the textures in the next room.
<a href='http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/Doom3Guide.htm' target='_blank'>http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/Doom3Guide.htm</a>
I've been running on high detail getting a steady 40fps in 1024*768 and 50fps in 800*600
AMD 2800+
Radeon 9600XT 256MB (Cat 4.9)
512MB DDR
Here's my autoexec
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->seta com_videoram "256"
seta com_allowconsole "1"
seta image_downSizeLimit "512"
seta image_ignoreHighQuality "1"
seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "512"
seta image_downSizeSpecularLimit "64"
seta image_downSizeBump "1"
seta image_downSizeSpecular "1"
seta image_downSize "1"
seta image_forceDownSize "1"
seta image_lodbias "0"
seta r_preload "1"
seta r_skipBump "0"
seta r_shadows "0"
seta r_useOptimizedShadows "1"
seta r_useTurboShadow "1"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "0"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta image_anisotropy "0"
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
I cant get doom 3 to run any faster then 30 FPS (Looking at a wall, 1-10 FPS during fighting) even after all this tweaking.
This is with 1.6gig pentium 4, 1 gig SDRAM, and a G4 ti4400
P4 2.533 GHz
1 gig of ram
Did all the tweaks, and my fps is ****. Especially during firefights, and in hell...OH EM GEE! I damn near threw my freaking monitor out the window just because the fps was so terrible I couldn't see ****!
It does, but if you don't have enough vram it just spills over onto your hard drive and ram, and you get stuttering whenever you open a door as it loads the textures in the next room. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but you would think that it will become so bad that it would be unplayable...
You open a door and something teleports in and then the stuff loads and you get slaughtered while it's loading...
It does, but if you don't have enough vram it just spills over onto your hard drive and ram, and you get stuttering whenever you open a door as it loads the textures in the next room. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but you would think that it will become so bad that it would be unplayable...
You open a door and something teleports in and then the stuff loads and you get slaughtered while it's loading... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats because they made DOOM 3 with stuff that they knew that no one would be able to power for quite a few more years, until we get machines with 512 vram. The actual parts haven't even been INVENTED yet- just shows how advanced D3 is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]And no offense RuBy, but that guide seems seriously lacking. Well, once they guy at tweakguides.com finishes his DOOM 3 one, thats the one people really need to use- he covers EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING, and really knows what he's talking about. Truly complete kind of stuff.
It does, but if you don't have enough vram it just spills over onto your hard drive and ram, and you get stuttering whenever you open a door as it loads the textures in the next room. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but you would think that it will become so bad that it would be unplayable...
You open a door and something teleports in and then the stuff loads and you get slaughtered while it's loading... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats because they made DOOM 3 with stuff that they knew that no one would be able to power for quite a few more years, until we get machines with 512 vram. The actual parts haven't even been INVENTED yet- just shows how advanced D3 is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]And no offense RuBy, but that guide seems seriously lacking. Well, once they guy at tweakguides.com finishes his DOOM 3 one, thats the one people really need to use- he covers EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING, and really knows what he's talking about. Truly complete kind of stuff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Errr ok if you say so but that didnt answer my question of how exactly hes playing on ultra high with 128mb video ram and not stutter so much that he dies...
ATI cards just pale in comparision to Nvidia on this game, especially when I see a person with a Geforce 3 Ti200 getting roughly the same performance as me at 800x600 Medium. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Er....
I just installed a 9600XT at my friends house(upgrade from FX 5200). He has an Athlon 2800+, 786MB of ram(or whatever the number is) High quality in doom 3 800X600 nice FPS..so I don't know what your problem is. Latest drivers? Running the 4.9 betas?
<a href='http://www.tweakguides.com/Doom3_1.html' target='_blank'>TweakGuides.com: DOOM 3</a>