Cpu's?

PvtBonesPvtBones Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28187Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">thinking about getting a new one</div> I thinking about getting a new Processor probably a P4 2.6 ghz (or around that area) and I'm wondering if I would need to buy anything else like a fan or new mobo etc.

Right now I have a P4 1.6 ghz would it be worth buying a new one or would the effects me minimal?
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    The effects would be slightly noticable...

    If you want a good processor, get an Athlon 64.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Mobo should be fine. The P4 will probably come with a fan, but if your computer runs hot, you like overclocking, or you value peace of mind, you might want to spring for a better fan. Keep in mind if your mobo is old it might limit the power of the Pentium due to a low FSB speed.
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  • NuubNuub Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25059Members
    Well, if you gonna get Athlon processor, youre gonna need a new mobo. But if youre going with Pentium one, it might not be necessary.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you want a good processor, get an Athlon 64.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with that.
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  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nuub+Aug 4 2004, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nuub @ Aug 4 2004, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, if you gonna get Athlon processor, youre gonna need a new mobo. But if youre going with Pentium one, it might not be necessary.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you want a good processor, get an Athlon 64.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ESPECIALLY for gaming.

    <a href='http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7' target='_blank'>here</a> is a series of Doom3 benchmarks. As you can see, A64s are a GREAT value there.
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  • Seraph1Seraph1 Join Date: 2004-08-02 Member: 30310Members, Constellation
    If I want to upgrade my laptop's CPU to AMD Athlon 64, does anyone know how hard it would be?
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  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Seraph!+Aug 4 2004, 11:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seraph! @ Aug 4 2004, 11:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I want to upgrade my laptop's CPU to AMD Athlon 64, does anyone know how hard it would be? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right between curing world hunger and capturing Osama Bin Laden.
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Suppose we cure world hunger by capturing Osama, killing him, making his carcass gigantic, and then feeding the meat to third-world countries?
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  • PvtBonesPvtBones Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28187Members
    eh well then I'm deffinately getting a P4 then since I'm not rolling in dough (lost my summer job) if I do buy one anyways
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited August 2004
    Get one in the 2500+ to 3000+ range from AMD barton... Awesome performance processors which outspank the pentium4 and aren't all that exspensive. Just make sure its a <b>Barton</b> and not a xp.

    Barton has twice the amount of onboard level1 cache then an xp and even more then any pentium4 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    an athlon barton 2500 to 3200+ ratings are THE BEST cheap chip. theyre strong enough for anything these days. (maybe a new sempron too)

    AthlonFX/Opterons are the BEST super-expensive chip.

    p4's are good midrange, which may be what you want right now.

    never buy a celeron.
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  • PvtBonesPvtBones Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28187Members
    Celerons = TEH Suck

    would the Barton require a new Mobo or anyhting because I'm not rolling in dough atm
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Yes, it would.

    P4 uses Socket 478 as well as a bunch of other socket #'s

    Athlon XP uses Socket A

    Athlon 64 uses socket 754 or socket 940 for the expensive ones.

    So yes, new Mobo...
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    all of this athlon; athlon64, athlonfx sillyness mean a new motherboard, but even the athlonXP route is good, 90$ processor and 90$ mobo that can outpace your current setup or even the p4 2.6 you were looking at.
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  • BattleTechBattleTech Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4137Members
    edited August 2004
    Celeron's aren't really bad processors, they're just not designed for heavy loading like the Athlon and Pentium 4 serie's. If you're trying to go for a budget, then I recommend buying the highest compaitable processor for your mobo. If you have the money and want to purchase a new motherboard and processor, then you're going to be spending atleast $200 minimum for all the extra components. I'm more of an Athlon series fan than a Pentium 4 fan, but Pentium 4's run just as fine as Athlon's -- Non 64-bit of course. I also recommend Athlon XP's because they're more bang for their buck compared to Pentium 4's. An Athlon XP rated at 2 GHZ will run as fast as a Pentium 4 with 2.6 GHZ.


    Here's a list of the basic stuff for a motherboard.

    Motherboard, RAM, Processor, Processor Heatsink, and a power supply (optional). The reason you may need a new powersupply is because a new motherboard may require alot more voltage than what you currently use. Having a 500w powersupply is good anyway because it makes your system run alot more stable.

    Look online at <a href='http://www.pricewatch.com' target='_blank'>http://www.pricewatch.com</a> and <a href='http://www.newegg.com' target='_blank'>http://www.newegg.com</a>
    Great bargains!

    Here's a cheap bargain upgrade I came up with. This is more of the casual gamer upgrade than the 1600x1200 guy with 8x antialiasing.

    Athlon XP:
    Mobo: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-468&depa=1' target='_blank'>$68</a>
    Processor: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-394&depa=1' target='_blank'>$140</a>
    Heatsink: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-031&depa=1' target='_blank'>$26</a>
    Memory: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-413&depa=1' target='_blank'>$92</a>
    Power Supply: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-167-005&depa=1' target='_blank'>$30</a>

    Total: $356
    This is excluding if you want a videocard or soundcard.
    As you can see, its pretty expensive. But, this is just a "cheap" system. I would have gone for the Athlon XP+ 3200 and a better mobo. But, that'll be during December when the prices drop <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Athlon XP+ 2200 and 512MB for me for now.

    Let's not forget the other alternative, which is getting the highest compaitable CPU for your mobo.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    barton runs on a socket A, which is the same as the athlon XP or the normal athlon (its predecessor <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • CodemanCodeman Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9497Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    nubs... Socket A runs all the athlon xp/duron processors - Barton is just the name of the latest core (with the 512kb cache and 333/400fsb)

    If you've already got a P4 board I'd check first in it's manuals or whatever and see what the highest it can take is - most of the P4's aren't all that expensive anymore and if you don't have to buy a new motherboard you save more $$ (you can always upgrade the mobo later to one with the new chipsets and goodies like pci-x, then upgrade video card and cpu and stuff afterwards)

    Also if you buy an Athlon you WILL be buying a new heatsink/fan (unless you like things burning). The stock P4 ones are adequate but the Athlon ones suck.
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  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    Ive got my New
    Abit NF7-S VER 2.0 nForce2 Mobo
    AMD XP2500 Barton
    Antec 400wat PSU
    OCZ Premier 512MB DDR400 PC3200

    My end setup will be...

    Chieftech Dragon Green Case
    5 8cm Fans (air cooling)
    80GB Seagate HDD
    ATI RADEON 9600XT 256mb
    ADSL 512kbs
    Thermaltake Volcano 12 heatsink
    and all that stated above

    current setup
    same as above but..

    Crappy Mobo
    AMD XP 2000 1.67ghz
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  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    I'm glad someone made this post becasue I'm building a buget computer that has half-decent performance. I'm loking at a P4 2.4ghz and my total PC price is $377.

    If I were to get a half-decent Athlon and compatible mobo, would I go over my price range?
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