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  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    Actually that is a very simple trick and has nothing to do what so ever with being psychic. You can be as psychic as my left sock and get someone to do exactly what you described. This was done by a professional 'mind reader' who fooled two advertising executives into drawing a picture almost 90% identical to one he had done.

    The technique simply involved taking the inviduals past certain objects, a Zoo, a vet and a petfood store. On the door to the building they went into was a replica of the mind readers drawing. By simply biasing the images they had seen before going in, he had fooled them into drawing exactly what he had wanted them too.

    An application of trickery and psychology, and nothing I assure you to "psychic powers".

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe we don't understand how psychic ability works, but it is there I believe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's called gullibility.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    Those people must be not so swell in the head to follow such a predictable trap...
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    edited August 2004
    No, I dont' think you get it. They met a man and "surprised" him by asking him to find this woman in an unknown location at an unknown distance away by using a picture. It isn't like he saw the place on the way over before meeting them.

    Tell me how they did that then?

    I suppose the military doing such experiments was part of an elaborate hoax on me too, right? One big joke lasting several decades just to fool me. Wow, I'm flattered. If you don't believe me, look it up.

    And if all you can do is call me gullable despite the posts I make, perhaps you should review the rule guide.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No, I dont' think you get it.  They met a man and "surprised" him by asking him to find this woman in an unknown location at an unknown distance away by using a picture.  It isn't like he saw the place on the way over before meeting them.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They surprised the advertising executives in a similar manner.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I suppose the military doing such experiments was part of an elaborate hoax on me too, right?  One big joke lasting several decades just to fool me.  Wow, I'm flattered.  If you don't believe me, look it up.  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I don't, and the burden of proof happens to lie with you. By all means, if you have any articles in the American Journal of Psychology (For example) then I'll be more than happy to have a read of it. Any journals in fact would be a good start.

    I am also aware of the American military attempting to use remote viewing, but perhaps more so, I actually know it was the CIA that maintained the project and put the major effort into using it. Further I'm also aware that they did cancel the project and have not bothered to ressurect it since.

    I guess it worked really well.

    In any event, here is some information on what you were trying to use as an example. Isn't that funny that I know more about your own example than you do? How deliciously ironic.

    <a href='http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/CIA-InitiatedRV.html' target='_blank'>Remote viewing project</a>.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And if all you can do is call me gullable despite the posts I make, perhaps you should review the rule guide.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I wouldn't say you were <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Gullable' target='_blank'>gullable</a>, I would call you GULLIBLE, I'm not even sure gullable is a word. If you were trying to point out some sort of intelligence you evidently possess, you just scored an own goal. Perhaps after developing psychic powers, the human race may ascend to the next level of understanding by being able to spell.

    In any event maybe you are or maybe you aren't, in reality the way I wrote that didn't say that you were in any direct manner. In a great majority of cases seemingly 'psychic' behaviour can be discovered to be the very clever application of basic psychology, and someone who WANTS to believe it. If being psychic truely DOES exist you certainly haven't posted a single shread of tangible scientifically verified evidence. Again, you have journal articles from ANY journal of psychology, go ahead and reference them. I have more than sufficient access to these to have a look myself and I will.

    Again, the tangible factor for many things like psychic surgery is 'gullibility' and the right amount of desperation to be suitably suckered in. We've all seen the video of the beef jerky being removed from a 'patient' undergoing psychic surgery for example. While funny, it doesn't really prove a hell of a lot. Maybe there are people who can remove your spleen straight through your skin with their minds, but I doubt it. I can say that because NOTHING of the sort has EVER stood up to a scientific experiment.

    If all you have are news stations, which come out with some absolutely golden rubbish on ALL manner of things in science (Where to begin...where to begin...) I don't think you have any evidence at all. Unless I've missed your references to detailed experiments in reputable journals of psychology, which have the advantage of being peer reviewed *controlled* experiments. Perhaps more importantly, that are REPEATABLE.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->, perhaps you should review the rule guide. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    After being here sufficiently long enough, and formerly (I say formerly because of individuals such as yourself with your petty little threats like the above) quite an active poster on this particular board, I am more than familiar with the rules. I guess it's just gotton to the point now, when someone is too afraid to defend their position with facts and will desperately look for any 'word' they can potentially use to claim the insult 'defence', that I can truely give up on internet debating.

    None the less, just to please your expectations, I decided to give you the insults you so desperately wanted. You may feel free to disregard my post and point me to the rules, which I read when they had been first posted and several times afterwards, so you can feel better about yourself. I will, in turn, also ignore your post and go back to lurking for several more months or whatever it will be. Once upon a time, long ago, I wasn't a jackass. Then again, once upon a time, long ago, people debated rather than look for something to get offended at to bring the "OMG YUO TRYED TO INSULT ME, YUO AR MEAN AND I CN IGNRE YUR POINTS" fallacy into play.

    Kida
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Those people must be not so swell in the head to follow such a predictable trap...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Again, it's a clever trick of psychology, and it also proves the immense power of advertising. Just random assorted images and places all contributed to them designing an image almost identical to what the "mind reader" wanted them to do. Nothing psychic was involved, just plain old psychology.

    I don't believe they had any reason to expect it, in fact they probably though he wouldn't be able to do it. That would of left them perfectly disarmed and highly susceptible to exactly what he did. Again, this isn't a controlled experiment and is simply as reliable as such, in other words, not very reliable.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    edited August 2004
    Okay Aegeri, that's enough with the personal comments. Is it really relevant that he spelled gullible incorrectly? If you really want to be that petty with your arguments, then here you go:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you were trying to point out some sort of intelligence you evidently possess, you just scored an own goal.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "An own goal"? Very nice. Obviously because of this one slip I should now laugh at you for the remainder of the day, and completely disregard the rest of your post. And when you point out how rude that is, I will just call you out on evading the point, and that obviously you DESERVE to be insulted. Oh yes, you sir are a professional debater indeed. High-class, really, cream of the crop even!

    +1 for hypocrisy.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No, I dont' think you get it.  They met a man and "surprised" him by asking him to find this woman in an unknown location at an unknown distance away by using a picture.  It isn't like he saw the place on the way over before meeting them.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They surprised the advertising executives in a similar manner.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I don't think you even fully read his post. He said that this "psychic" (I still don't believe he really was) <u>never met</u> the person he was to locate, he was just shown a picture. What, do you really think the people conducting the experiment were the ones who dropped subtle clues to the person they were testing? Highly unlikely - why would they skew their own results - but in any case, that's not what Hawkeye said, so don't assume it.

    Oh yes, and one more insult just to come to tally with your count:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I guess it's just gotton to the point now, when someone is too afraid to defend their position with facts and will desperately look for any 'word' they can potentially use to claim the insult 'defence', that I can truely give up on internet debating.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Yes, well, when you can properly use <u>tactful</u> 'words' to 'develop' your 'position', we'll 'talk'.

    [edit] Heh, I use my 1000th post to defend someone I don't agree with. Oh the irony [/edit]
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"An own goal"? Very nice. Obviously because of this one slip I should now laugh at you for the remainder of the day, and completely disregard the rest of your post. And when you point out how rude that is, I will just call you out on evading the point, and that obviously you DESERVE to be insulted. Oh yes, you sir are a professional debater indeed. High-class, really, cream of the crop even!

    +1 for hypocrisy.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <a href='http://www.saintnicholas.contactbox.co.uk/meditations/owngoal.htm' target='_blank'>Scoring an own goal</a>.

    <a href='http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Julie1.html' target='_blank'>Another example of the 'own goal'.</a>

    Words of advice from an unofficial internet elitist ****: If you want to act like a smart arse, make sure you are actually <b>SMART</b> <i>FIRST</i> and <b>ARSE</b> <i>SECOND</i>. Otherwise you just look like an arse.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, I use my 1000th post to defend someone I don't agree with<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If that is what you call 'defending', then I suggest becoming a defence lawyer as less criminals would avoid jail then.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aegeri+Aug 19 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Aug 19 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"An own goal"? Very nice. Obviously because of this one slip I should now laugh at you for the remainder of the day, and completely disregard the rest of your post. And when you point out how rude that is, I will just call you out on evading the point, and that obviously you DESERVE to be insulted. Oh yes, you sir are a professional debater indeed. High-class, really, cream of the crop even!

    +1 for hypocrisy.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <a href='http://www.saintnicholas.contactbox.co.uk/meditations/owngoal.htm' target='_blank'>Scoring an own goal</a>.

    <a href='http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Julie1.html' target='_blank'>Another example of the 'own goal'.</a>

    Words of advice from an unofficial internet elitist ****: If you want to act like a smart arse, make sure you are actually <b>SMART</b> <i>FIRST</i> and <b>ARSE</b> <i>SECOND</i>. Otherwise you just look like an arse.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, I use my 1000th post to defend someone I don't agree with<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If that is what you call 'defending', then I suggest becoming a defence lawyer as less criminals would avoid jail then. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How about you give me and 5 the same courtesy I've given you, and not resort to insults. I may not believe what you believe, but that is no reason to insult my competency. I haven't done the same to you, I hope you realize, and however right you may think you are, at least you cannot deny that 5 and I were the more gentlemen of us three.

    I want to see you put up a good argument without resulting to name-calling and insults. Consider that a challenge. I'm sorry, but when you do that your credibility goes out the window in my book.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but that is no reason to insult my competency. <b>I haven't done the same to you, I hope you realize</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    FUNNY.

    Lets recap:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>perhaps you should review the rule guide</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I thought it could be assumed that someone who has been a member here for over a YEAR now would be intelligent enough to have read the rules.

    Had you NOT done that, none of this would of occured. You would NOT have **** me off entirely. Really, if you want to insinuate I can't actually freaking READ what is CLEARLY written at the top of this forum, that I have been posting in for a year is NOT calling into question my competency or similar, I have NO idea what to call that. Perhaps you could provide a helping hand?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you cannot deny that 5 and I were the more gentlemen of us three.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, by clearly patronising me in your reply and then wondering why I decided to have a go at you. As for 5 he just proved he's a complete idiot so I hardly care what he thinks.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sorry, but when you do that your credibility goes out the window in my book. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If I actually CARED about your opinion anymore, I might go and cry in the corner or something. I'll work on that.

    Now, I'll go and start doing my experiments for the day and remembering the times when I did give a crap.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aegeri+Aug 19 2004, 04:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Aug 19 2004, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but that is no reason to insult my competency. <b>I haven't done the same to you, I hope you realize</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    FUNNY.

    Lets recap:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>perhaps you should review the rule guide</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I thought it could be assumed that someone who has been a member here for over a YEAR now would be intelligent enough to have read the rules.

    Had you NOT done that, none of this would of occured. You would NOT have **** me off entirely. Really, if you want to insinuate I can't actually freaking READ what is CLEARLY written at the top of this forum, that I have been posting in for a year is NOT calling into question my competency or similar, I have NO idea what to call that. Perhaps you could provide a helping hand?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you cannot deny that 5 and I were the more gentlemen of us three.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, by clearly patronising me in your reply and then wondering why I decided to have a go at you. As for 5 he just proved he's a complete idiot so I hardly care what he thinks.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sorry, but when you do that your credibility goes out the window in my book. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If I actually CARED about your opinion anymore, I might go and cry in the corner or something. I'll work on that.

    Now, I'll go and start doing my experiments for the day and remembering the times when I did give a crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The day I take grammar lessons from an article on the Internet is the day I fail English class. The articles you posted give an example of some people using the phrase "own goal" as something they themselves define. That's like a diet ad saying "be your change". You can't BE "your change". But it sounds good, and everyone basically knows what you're talking about, so it's accepted.

    Another example: "rofling". We all (or most of us) know what it means; it's just internet slang. Doesn't mean it's proper grammar, now does it. You can say the same about all slang. I know "own goal" isn't slang, but just because you can find someone using it doesn't make it proper. And if you were the veteran debater you think you are, you'd recognize this.

    Now, on to your last post.

    Since when does reffering someone to the rules constitute a challenge to their honor? Possibly you had just forgotten that acting like a snob in this forum is not allowed. But since you insist you <i>know</i> the rules, yet <i>continue</i> to disobey them, I really don't see how you can continue to debate. Actually, you aren't even debating anymore, those last two posts were all-out flames, which is once again against the rules. More importantly, you say you know this. And will you stop trying to brag about how long you've participated in these forums? From what I can gather, even with all your time spent here you've yet to develop any dignity while debating. Yes, I just called you a flamebaiter, in case you didn't realize it.

    So, Hawkeye **** you off when he told you to read rules that you were breaking, and you get mad at him because you KNEW you were breaking the rules and didn't want him to look down on you for it.

    *applause*


    And if you didn't care about the discussion, you wouldn't bother posting, now would you? Unless either a) you have too much time on your hands, b) you just like insulting people you don't know, or c) both. Or can you give me another reason? Please, I want to hear you rationalize your actions as in keeping with forum rules.


    And by the way hawkeye, call me sky, not 5. Thank you. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The day I take grammar lessons from an article on the Internet is the day I fail English class. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Type it in google and have a look. It's a very old term actually.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Doesn't mean it's proper grammar, now does it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How ironic that you forgot the question mark while gibbering off about proper grammar.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I know "own goal" isn't slang,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Correct, because it is an expression.

    At least you can clearly get something right.

    He then babbles on and generally tries to stick his foot up his arse to see how high it can go. Not particularly worth quoting.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and you get mad at him because you KNEW you were breaking the rules and didn't want him to look down on you for it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually no. I've explained this previously, but that's a good strawman.

    As for if I cared or not, if I did, I wouldn't respond to you in a highly hostile fashion. Call it a bad mood or something, but something about you and chuckles rubs me the wrong way.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And by the way hawkeye, call me sky, not 5. Thank you.  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Now you'll have the day when they legalise civil unions to be all excited about, good for you two. I take it I won't be invited to the wed-I mean civil union?
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Are you American? Because I've never heard that term where I live. Whatever, I'll just stop arguing the point and consider the fact that maybe possibly there is a chance something I say was wrong. *gasp*

    Hey, it actually feels good, you should try it some time.

    Now, on to discussion, or more accurately, your refusal to discuss. Sotp wtih teh gmarmar cmomtens, as yuo cna ese ti rlaely deos nto mteatr. You can read that sentence perfectly fine, and that is what discussion is about, getting your point across. Watch, there are 5 more mistake in this post, go ahead and be petty about it and find them.


    You still haven't posted anything that isn't inflamatory, heck you even called yourself an elitist ****. You also havent posted anything that relates to the topic since your first post, which basically led to this little war. Please continue doing what you do best, and I'll ask a moderator to do what they do best.

    And as for the slight against **** marriage, was that really necessary? In any other forum....no wait it still wouldn't be funny or appropriate. Need I repeat myself:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->when you can properly use tactful 'words' to 'develop' your 'position', we'll 'talk'.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Proof - 4 <-- ignore that until needed.

    ooh cryptic
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Arawn+Aug 7 2004, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Arawn @ Aug 7 2004, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just because I only use maybe 5-10% of my processor for normal tasks doesn't mean that objects will start levitating off of my desk when I start up Doom 3. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh man i havent laughed that hard all week <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    edited August 2004
    If an admin sees this, please do not close this forum. Aegeri has started trouble in this forum, and I do not see why everyone should be punished. I request that you ban Aergeri temporarily so that maybe he'll have the time to read the rule book. You realize of course that you've broken at least the first 4 rules, right Aegeri?

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=43638' target='_blank'>A link to serve you well.</a>

    Nice to meet you, sky. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    edited August 2004
    Private post from Aegeri.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You're a bit slow aren't you, Aug 20 2004, 11:07 AM    




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    Aegeri has started trouble in this forum, and I do not see why everyone should be punished. I request that you ban Aergeri temporarily



    In case you haven't figured it out, getting banned is kind of the goal here.

    You see, as I said, I no longer care and with the sheer amount of complete freaking morons that now populate the internet, of which you're a prime example, and the fact many of the other previously active DF posters have gone means it just isn't the same forum anymore. A very long time ago it was an extremely enjoyable place and there were some really good discussions. Now all we have is a large amount of idiotic pre-madonna smacktards such as yourself, and those without any sort of balls in an argument. Then again, that is becoming the general internet however, how I wish for the days of the old usenets where people knew how to debate, and didn't play "Innocuous word to get offended at survivor".

    It is probably beyond you to realise why I am so incredibly annoyed and ticked off, and considering you were a bit too slow to get it the first time I won't bother a second time. Thank you for proving my point however.


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    None the less, just to please your expectations, I decided to give you the insults you so desperately wanted. You may feel free to disregard my post and point me to the rules, which I read when they had been first posted and several times afterwards, so you can feel better about yourself. I will, in turn, also ignore your post and go back to lurking for several more months or whatever it will be. Once upon a time, long ago, I wasn't a jackass. Then again, once upon a time, [/i]long ago, people debated rather than look for something to get offended at to bring the "OMG YUO TRYED TO INSULT ME, YUO AR MEAN AND I CN IGNRE YUR POINTS" fallacy into play[/i]. 



    As I said in the forum, I don't actually care anymore. I've had it with the internet pre-madonnas such as yourself and I guess the other day I just snapped. If I'm banned I won't actually give two flying shits, what will it mean I can't do? Talk with you who couldn't even spell the word 'gullible' when you saw the correct way to do so just moments before?

    Oh yes, I'm certainly going to miss that!

    It's unlikely that I'll be coming back after this though you'll probably be happy to realise. The retard factor of that forum has just gotton too high. Alternatively, maybe after 5 or more years on the internet, it's just gotton to me and twisted me into something I never used to be.

    As I said, you wanted me to insult you and so I decided to do so. I'm glad to see that I allowed you to climb up and insert your arse firmly onto the politically correct pole you wanted to. Before leaving the forums for good, I wanted to make sure I left at least one happy customer.  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with you with at least one thing. I miss the old days when people could hold discussions without making unnecessary and childish insults toward each other. What a second... come to think of it, that's exactly like the discussion sky and I were having before you interrupted.

    You're welcome in any future discussions I might have just to show you there are no hard feelings. You just can't insult me for spelling mistakes when you think I'm wrong.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    And that ladies and gentlemen is why you must not bank your emotional state on your life online. I've seen it happen far too often on Internet forums.....oh well. Come back whenever you feel like having a discussion again Aegeri. I can guarantee I'll bring my A-game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • todd1Oktodd1Ok Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28018Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    sorry, i just thought id say this.

    since people are saying "you only use 10% of your brain" etc, why not take a gun and blow the rest away? i mean, you aint using 90%, im sure the rest wont matter. i mean, blowing your head off has GOTTA not be as stoooopid as believing someone can bend a spoon through the power of their mind.

    or maybe im wrong....maybe i shoulda waited to blow away my 90% till after i wrote this post...or believe in psychic bullcrap.

    DONT YOU PEOPLE WATCH PENN AND TELLER? THEY HOLD THE KEY TO THE UNIVERSE!

    but seriously, dont eat the crap people feed you with no evidence to back it up.

    always ask questions.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but seriously, dont eat the crap people feed you with no evidence to back it up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Couldn't agree more. Supply the evidence of what you're saying is true (that psychic power does not exist) and I will believe.
  • ArawnArawn Join Date: 2003-02-01 Member: 12954Members
    edited August 2004
    I agree with Aegeri. I've been playing a different game and I was also suspended (for flaming, nevermind the fact that I've been flaming for years and this is the first time anyones noticed) so I havent checked the forums in a while. Hawkeye you really confuse me, it's like you just stuff a bunch of buzz words in your post so it looks like you know what you're talking about. We don't need to 'expand our mind' to go to Mars or anything..we can and will go there one day but we don't need to 'unlock the secrets of our mind' or whatever to do that. I don't think you even realize what you're saying, you think we should believe everything we are told until it has been proven wrong? So I should believe 'The Matrix' is real because there is no possible way to prove that it isn't? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard; you don't believe in something until you've proven it, not disproven it. With your logic I could pull any random idea out of my **** right now and you would have to believe it because it's impossible for you to disprove. Also, I'm going to kill the next person that tells me to 'think outside the box', that's the ********* buzz phrase I've ever heard in my life, right up there with 'expressing yourself' to explain all the stupid things high school kids do.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    No, I believe I nicely worded it as "If you can't prove it exists or not, as far as we know, it may or may not exist."

    If we lived back in the times when they believed the world was still flat, you'd believe it in a heartbeat. There would be no proof, either way, yet you'd insist I was absurd and "on drugs" to be saying the world was round. There is no proof that the world is round, nor proof against that fact at the time the claim was made. Time has proved time and time again that if you stick to old theories, it is only a matter of time before they are disproved.

    You've told me what you think is the most stupid thing you've heard. Now I'm telling you the stupidest thing I've ever heard. So you don't just believe things because that's what everyone else believes. Ask yourself why you believe it, and if you can't find a reason, maybe you should consider finding one. This is all I ever said:

    Don't believe in something blindly. Keep all possibilities open (don't think I haven't accepted the possibility that psychic ability could be a bunch of rubbish).
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