Physics Problem

BlobbyBlobby Join Date: 2004-06-11 Member: 29234Members
<div class="IPBDescription">2 spheres collide!</div> Ok, we have 2 spheres of mass m1 and m2. They are traveling at initial velocities v1 and v2. After they collide they are traveling at velocities w1 and w2.
m1, m2, v1, and v2 are give. We need to solve for w1 and w2. 2 unknowns needs 2 equations.

Conservation of momentum: (m1)(v1) + (m2)(v2) = (m1)(w1) + (m2)(w2)

Conservation of kenetic energy: (1/2)(m1)(v1)^2 + (1/2)(m2)(v2)^2 = (m1)(w1)^2 + (1/2)(m2)(w2)^2

So all you have to do now is do some substitution and things are good. But I can't seem to get it to work right. I've Googled the hell out of it, but nothing seems to show the full generic solution.

NOTE: You can assume that the velocities are 1 dimentional because solving it in more than one dimention just requires that you break up the components and solve them separately.

Advice?

Comments

  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    ahhhhh math :O

    /me runs
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    edited August 2004
    Need some constants, please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Also, is this an elastic or inelastic collision?

    {Edit}

    Constants as in the masses and velocities.

    IRT Doom; Physics, not Maths, Physics is real, math isnt <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Head...imploding...Doomeh...hold me!
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    i can only help you if you turn that into 1+1=2 format
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    Basically, he wants equations that say w1 = (something in terms of m1, m2, v1, v2), and the same for w2. Since he is using the conservation of kinetic energy, this is a completely elastic collision.

    I could figure it out. In fact, I probably will (though I'm not guaranteeing anything). If I do, I will edit this post.
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    edited August 2004
    Oh it's not that difficult, all you need is the constants (masses and velocities of the respective spheres) plug it into the equation and solve the problem via algebraic manipulation, a 16 year old could solve it and if the education system werent as **** end backwards as it is in any country then a 9 year old could probably solve it.

    Stupid != Cool.

    Stupid == Stupid.

    Physics == Pwn.

    Math == Ok.

    {Edit}

    You got in before my post lost, I'll just plug in some dummy values and see what I get. Even so I havent done physics for a long long time...
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    <!--QuoteBegin-Blobby+Aug 9 2004, 11:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Blobby @ Aug 9 2004, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok, we have 2 spheres of mass m1 and m2. They are traveling at initial velocities v1 and v2. After they collide they are traveling at velocities w1 and w2.
    m1, m2, v1, and v2 are give. We need to solve for w1 and w2. 2 unknowns needs 2 equations.

    Conservation of momentum: (m1)(v1) + (m2)(v2) = (m1)(w1) + (m2)(w2)
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Okay, so that breaks down into (((m1)(v1) + (m2)(v2)) - (m2)(w2))/(w1) = (m1) for 'easy' substitution. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Conservation of kenetic energy: (1/2)(m1)(v1)^2 + (1/2)(m2)(v2)^2 = (m1)(w1)^2 + (1/2)(m2)(w2)^2

    So all you have to do now is do some substitution and things are good. But I can't seem to get it to work right. I've Googled the hell out of it, but nothing seems to show the full generic solution.

    NOTE: You can assume that the velocities are 1 dimentional because solving it in more than one dimention just requires that you break up the components and solve them separately.

    Advice?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Advice is to pay attention to your classes and schoolwork more closely. Off-Topic is not a cheat or crib sheet.

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