Overclocking...
Swiftspear
Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Help needed</div> I'm running a P4 (Socket 478) on a MSI 845PE Max mobo.
I recently ordered a new heatsink and fan, and what I'm looking for is a program that I can use to monitor the CPU temperature and the fan RPM of windows.
The mobo manual mentions something called Fuzzy Logic 4, but I can find no trace of it on my comuter, and if I ever had the install drivers, I'm pretty sure I don't have them now.
Any recomendations would be much obliged, as I don't particulary want to fry my CPU.
I recently ordered a new heatsink and fan, and what I'm looking for is a program that I can use to monitor the CPU temperature and the fan RPM of windows.
The mobo manual mentions something called Fuzzy Logic 4, but I can find no trace of it on my comuter, and if I ever had the install drivers, I'm pretty sure I don't have them now.
Any recomendations would be much obliged, as I don't particulary want to fry my CPU.
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Displays all kinda of nifty info.
one question, is there any way to reskin the ugly mofo dashboard?
I can guarantee you overclocking the CPU does indeed increase heat.
I can guarantee you overclocking the CPU does indeed increase heat. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong!
By only increasing the fsb and multiplier the heat increase is close to nonexistent, only when you increase the v-core voltage or memory voltage theres a noticeable differance.
<b>Note:</b>
If you can keep your v-corevoltage low/close to its original setting you have a good quality core. But if it doenst run stable (pifast test) you have to increase the voltage restuling in more heat, just keep this in mind...
The same goes for memory, good quality mem can run at higher speeds on lower voltages...
Goog luck on you ocing <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I can guarantee you overclocking the CPU does indeed increase heat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong!
By only increasing the fsb and multiplier the heat increase is close to nonexistent, only when you increase the v-core voltage or memory voltage theres a noticeable differance.
<b>Note:</b>
If you can keep your v-corevoltage low/close to its original setting you have a good quality core. But if it doenst run stable (pifast test) you have to increase the voltage restuling in more heat, just keep this in mind...
The same goes for memory, good quality mem can run at higher speeds on lower voltages...
Goog luck on you ocing <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right. Thats exactly why people need liquid nitrogen and other cooling substances that you need special licenses for when they overclock their pentiums to around the 1 ghz marks for s***s and giggles. Because the CPU doesnt overheat.
Standart 2500+ (1.8ghz) v-core temps in celcious:
idle: 41.15 C
load: 45.10 C
2.0ghz v-core temps in celcious:
idle: 41.15 C
load: 45.11 C
if I run at 2.25ghz I have to use 1.75 volt to get it to run stable:
idle: 44.25 C
load: 49.75 C
It can go higher then 2.25ghz, but I dont feel like doing that since it doesnt run that stable just using air as cooling factor. For that to work I need to increase the voltage beyond 1.8volt, which might fry the cpu and since I'm not going to pay money for liquid nitrogen or watercooling solution, im stuck at 2.25ghz as my max <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
one question, is there any way to reskin the ugly mofo dashboard?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not that I know of, I dont use the dashboard. I only use mbm as a way to let other programs (<a href='http://www.samurize.com' target='_blank'>Samurize</a> or <a href='http://www.xymantix.com/sysmetrix/' target='_blank'>Sysmetrix</a> or something similar) read the motherboard temps.
It isnt that bad tho, just keep the dashboard hidden away and display the temps in the systray.
On-topic, I used to use motherboard monitor, it's a fairly nice program. Now I just use a utility that came with my board.
Edit: oops wrong stepping code
Guess the heat difusion isn't that efficiant...
On-topic, I used to use motherboard monitor, it's a fairly nice program. Now I just use a utility that came with my board.
Edit: oops wrong stepping code <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I remember reading when I bought my AMD Athlon 2700+, that it's a good oc candidate. Anyone have any useful reading, or tips or something about oc'ing? Maybe what temperatures are good, where its getting too hot, etc.
Time for a new fan and maybe a new heatink to.
I'm running a Alpha Heatsink with a Delta 6000rpm fan, using a rheobus/fan controller ofcourse to run it at 3000rpm.
On 3000rpm and vcore at 1.8 volts (just a small test) my cpu temp:
idle: 48 C
load: 52-53 C.
When I run it at 6000rpm (to much noice but nm that its a test)
idle: 44 C
load: 48 C
I'm pretty happy with this heatsink/fan combo, and it would work even better on a pentium since the amd's are hotheads <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>Note:</b>
If I didnt use artic silver on the cpu core these temps would rise another 3-4 C
Guess I should post info:
Albatron KX600 Pro
AMD Athlon 2700+
512 DDR400
ATi 9600XT
Its supported, the temp sensors are supported, everything should be working! But its not! I can't figure it out.
Time for a new fan and maybe a new heatink to.
I'm running a Alpha Heatsink with a Delta 6000rpm fan, using a rheobus/fan controller ofcourse to run it at 3000rpm.
On 3000rpm and vcore at 1.8 volts (just a small test) my cpu temp:
idle: 48 C
load: 52-53 C.
When I run it at 6000rpm (to much noice but nm that its a test)
idle: 44 C
load: 48 C
I'm pretty happy with this heatsink/fan combo, and it would work even better on a pentium since the amd's are hotheads <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>Note:</b>
If I didnt use artic silver on the cpu core these temps would rise another 3-4 C <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup, default pentium heatsinks aren't to impressive. I already ordered a <a href='http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=ISB-V73&other_title=ISB-V73Aero%204' target='_blank'>Cooler Master Areo 4</a>, which is designed to support pentiums up to 3.6 Ghrz and higher (so its way over my CPU specs already). Gonna polish the heatsink to a mirror finish as soon as I get it and make sure thermal paste is nice and thinly layed. I plan to run the fan as fast as possible, since my case fan sounds like a jet engine anyways <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hopefully that will run a little better than the P4 standard heatsink and fan unpasted.
<a href='http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4' target='_blank'>http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4</a>
<a href='http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18' target='_blank'>http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18</a>
only for those of you willing to do some reading, and anyone into OC'ing had better do some reading on the subject to make sure they dont damage anything.
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i always run my computer at full load, like pifast does. and so should you! (heres why: <a href='http://www.hel-razor.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html' target='_blank'>http://www.hel-razor.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html</a> )
and while im at full load, changing only the cpu multiplier DOES INDEED change my temperatures by several degrees. the cpu is simply doing more work in the same amount of time, and the same amount of heat can be dissipated in that time interval.
Basically, running happily at 3360 MHz with no big temperature/stability change. The hottest mine has gotten is 45 degrees (Celsius, not that wacky fahrenheit stuff), and it averages about 34-37.
Edit: spelling (stupid fahrenheit)
Bookmarked so I don't forget.
[edit] 'that' refering to the folding for our future thing
darn you dorian and your sneaking posts in inbetween mine <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Basically, running happily at 3360 MHz with no big temperature/stability change. The hottest mine has gotten is 45 degrees (Celsius, not that wacky fahrenheit stuff), and it averages about 34-37.
Edit: spelling (stupid fahrenheit) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wait, so did you manually increase the FSB or just select the 5% overclock option? Because if you just selected the option, it might have increased the volts automatically. That's what my board did (it had the same utility). Each time I tried to use the AI overlocker it would automatically increase the voltages based on what has been coded into it. But in some cases that isn't neccessary.
Bookmarked so I don't forget.
[edit] 'that' refering to the folding for our future thing
darn you dorian and your sneaking posts in inbetween mine <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
80C is very unhealthy; are you sure thats C and not F?
Right now I have it idleing at 48C, and it will be kept that way until I can install the new heatsink and fan (as I'm not at home to run anything, so it won't be run up) So with a little luck I can keep the damage already done to a minimum.
Right now I have it idleing at 48C, and it will be kept that way until I can install the new heatsink and fan (as I'm not at home to run anything, so it won't be run up) So with a little luck I can keep the damage already done to a minimum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mine idles at 45-48 C, and only goes up a degree or two under heavy load.