Commanders

anubis69anubis69 Join Date: 2004-01-23 Member: 25641Members
just out of interest, how many people here prefer to be commander than marine? and for those people, do you rather commanding a small team of a large team? <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    I only command if I'm in the mood AND no one else want's to command....

    Most of the time someone just hops in the chair and we can game on eh..
  • anubis69anubis69 Join Date: 2004-01-23 Member: 25641Members
    dont you just hate it when at the start of a game about 5 people will just stand around the chair and tell each other to get in? and they'll say "nah, i suck at commanding." Dammit! so annoying.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    I like commanding in big games(22+ player) more than playing marines. Only because big games = dead aliens...
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    I really enjoy commanding, and i'm half good at it, but it public games which seems to be the only place to practise without totally ruining a good game, like a PUG or a gather, i get ejected half way through the game, usually when i'm winning, for not doing things like dropping ammo for the lone marine that's standing in the most useless place on the map and can't aim to save his life.
    But i've went on down to #NSLearn, and i spoken to a guy (Dammit i've forgot his name) But he said he used to be exi.'s comm or something, and he's helping me today ^_^
  • bliNkbliNk Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21422Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-anubis69+Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (anubis69 @ Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dont you just hate it when at the start of a game about 5 people will just stand around the chair and tell each other to get in? and they'll say "nah, i suck at commanding." Dammit! so annoying. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is mainly because if they get in and make a small mistake like not dropping a medpack for some lone marine then they get abused and ejected, if coduct towards commanders was better then more people would do it.
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    If commanders didn't get ejected for every little thing, I.E : Not medding that lone rine.
    I'd command alot more, it's my fave part of NS ^_^ but i just don't get the chance.
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-bliNk+Aug 16 2004, 04:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bliNk @ Aug 16 2004, 04:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-anubis69+Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (anubis69 @ Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dont you just hate it when at the start of a game about 5 people will just stand around the chair and tell each other to get in? and they'll say "nah, i suck at commanding." Dammit! so annoying. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is mainly because if they get in and make a small mistake like not dropping a medpack for some lone marine then they get abused and ejected, if coduct towards commanders was better then more people would do it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly. This is the reason I never, ever command unless everyone runs off. If it annoys you, Anubis, <i>you</i> go in the com chair.
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Aug 16 2004, 05:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Aug 16 2004, 05:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bliNk+Aug 16 2004, 04:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bliNk @ Aug 16 2004, 04:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-anubis69+Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (anubis69 @ Aug 16 2004, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dont you just hate it when at the start of a game about 5 people will just stand around the chair and tell each other to get in? and they'll say "nah, i suck at commanding." Dammit! so annoying. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is mainly because if they get in and make a small mistake like not dropping a medpack for some lone marine then they get abused and ejected, if coduct towards commanders was better then more people would do it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly. This is the reason I never, ever command unless everyone runs off. If it annoys you, Anubis, <i>you</i> go in the com chair. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The worse thing is when you get ejected in a pub, then after you're ejected no one else wants to comm...
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-anubis69+Aug 16 2004, 09:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (anubis69 @ Aug 16 2004, 09:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dont you just hate it when at the start of a game about 5 people will just stand around the chair and tell each other to get in? and they'll say "nah, i suck at commanding." Dammit! so annoying. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    At least they stand near the thing on your server, ppl run away and hide from the CC on the server I play on.
  • tomtom Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21643Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    Im good at commander, but dont like to command unless no one else wants to.
  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    I command when I can. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    True "good" commanders are a rare thing nowadays. Ck, you ought to teach that sometime too. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • LichoLicho Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3858Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like commanding and go comm almost every game. I don't care if whether team is big or small, but I like having some friends in it.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    I'm scared of comming, although its fun. Generally too much responsibility and pressure. Only ever won once, out of, say, 10 full games as comm? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    I'd really like to see a poll go on and ask if they prefer to command, marine or alien. I'd like to know about how much of the ns population are hardcore commanders, not just the 1 time thing.

    I bet its liike 14% of the ns population or maybe less.
  • CrueltyIsMyGameCrueltyIsMyGame Join Date: 2004-07-27 Member: 30179Members
    I command as often as I can... But aint good at it..:/

    Rines always do whatever they want to.. and those I can get some command over, aint worth %%%% anyway... so my succes is very dependend on how good the qualtiy of the rines is...<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • LitoLito Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
    The commander feature is actually what attracted me to NS, so yes, i spend most of my marine time commanding.

    You can boast all you want when you're a leet commander too. Being a commander is like the final exam of everything you know about NS:

    ->You need to know the Khaara side of game: Potential second hive time/location, typical strats and how to combat them, etc.

    ->You obviously need to know the marine side of the game: Good chokepoints to hold, tech tree, potential, building placement. etc.

    ->Then you need to be fast and efficient: If marines need medpacks, they probably need them quickly, order marines around seperately, and giving direct and detailed orders.

    I rarely comm 2 games in a roll, because its tiring enough for one.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    I used to comm sometimes, but Im not a great comm if you compare me to someone who's comming for a clan, but i rarely comm nowdays since I only pub co <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • jammnojammno Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25832Members
    I used to command all the time for clan eGo. but ever since two patches ago phase gates / flashlights make my fps go to five. This won't let me spam meds or drop buildings sometimes.

    So I won't be comming again until I can get the problem fixed / hit the lottery and get a new computer. -_-
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'd like to say I'm a good comm, but one thing you NEED as a comm in pubs, no matter how good the server, is CommRage. If you are able to make an example of one of your marines by totally humiliating him when he isn't listening, people will get a bit scared and listen to you quite a bit better. I have that problem late game- we'll be totally kicking **** for the entire game, then the final assault on the last hive starts up, and the entire team forgets what a waypoint is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd like to say I'm a good comm, but one thing you NEED as a comm in pubs, no matter how good the server, is CommRage. If you are able to make an example of one of your marines by totally humiliating him when he isn't listening, people will get a bit scared and listen to you quite a bit better. I have that problem late game- we'll be totally kicking **** for the entire game, then the final assault on the last hive starts up, and the entire team forgets what a waypoint is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rage isnt the answer you fool. Negative energies arent the way to go.
    Have fun trying to humiliate a guy who will retaliate back at you for the entire game.

    Understanding and comprehension are the ways of the commander.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    I only command if people request it, or if my team is a bunch of morons and I jump in the chair. At least they follow my orders.
  • CelizCeliz Join Date: 2004-06-07 Member: 29171Members, Constellation
    i prefer to command if i know i have a team that will listen, but if they start to not listen to me i just leave....i dont put up with bs aholes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • FinFin Join Date: 2004-06-26 Member: 29551Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Soberana+Aug 16 2004, 09:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Aug 16 2004, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd like to say I'm a good comm, but one thing you NEED as a comm in pubs, no matter how good the server, is CommRage. If you are able to make an example of one of your marines by totally humiliating him when he isn't listening, people will get a bit scared and listen to you quite a bit better. I have that problem late game- we'll be totally kicking **** for the entire game, then the final assault on the last hive starts up, and the entire team forgets what a waypoint is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rage isnt the answer you fool. Negative energies arent the way to go.
    Have fun trying to humiliate a guy who will retaliate back at you for the entire game.

    Understanding and comprehension are the ways of the commander. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, Understanding and Patience. When the majority of the team is still learning the basics i allow them to execute some of the strategies for more skilled marines thus improving their lesson rather then ruining it. It matters not that they failed but that they learned.
  • SlayerPLSlayerPL Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29660Members
    I like to comm from time to time. Being a comm is an EASY task, if you have at least 4 rines listening to you, and they should die after being attacked by one skulk <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Pub games are too easy for time to time tbh. No tw in aliens team, and a few good rines bye bye all hives :>


    I know one thing - there is no comm, without his rines. There are no rines without the comm.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 16 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd like to say I'm a good comm, but one thing you NEED as a comm in pubs, no matter how good the server, is CommRage. If you are able to make an example of one of your marines by totally humiliating him when he isn't listening, people will get a bit scared and listen to you quite a bit better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...or get scared off NS forever. :S

    If I were to do this, I would take it out on someone I know, even if he did not do it, as a ruse to achieve the goal you describe. I would not want to upset a guy. (Heck, even if this is the army, soldiers have feelings. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    A decent mike and a deep voice are all you need to command authority. It's amazing how quickly 12yr old get kicked out of the chair, independantly of how well they are doing commanding, when they use the mike...

    --

    What really bugs me are people who say "We lost because we did not have a commander for 5 mins" or "Our commander was hopeless".
    Especially if it was me, after joining late. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    If you think you can do better, say something useful to help. (or maybe offer to get in the chair yourself.)
    If there was no commander for 20 seconds, *you* should have got in. At least you would have learned something.
  • LachdananLachdanan Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16995Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Onos
    I prefer to command small games (max 7 rines).
    more rines just means an easier game with no fun
    on a 22pl server i love playing gorge/skulk

    in the last 2 months i havent played much public cause there are no servers with no totally newbs here.

    i think a comm must play marine sometimes if he wants or not or he ´ll loose his feeling for certain situations
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    Personally I prefer to be Field Commander... but if no one hopes in the chair I will even tho I am not an extraordinary commander I can get most jobs done. But I prefer so much to command from the field, It's like pure tactics without having to worry about res or stuff (unless you are assigned to defend one)
  • hawthornehawthorne Join Date: 2003-10-05 Member: 21460Members
    if you don't have a plan, and your marines know you don't have a plan, you're screwed

    if you have a plan, make sure your marines know. any sort of motivational behavior from that point on is usually acceptable (just a matter of personality/style).

    so if you don't have a plan, pretend like you do - marines feed a LOT off of what their commander is expressing/tone of voice etc. etc. etc.

    in conclusion, be a confident (if not competent) commander. if you need to tell your team to shut the hell up, then do it. after you get this part of the game down, then you can start working on strategy.

    -hawthorne
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