Weird News From Microsoft. (service Pack2)

DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can't Comm.England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
edited August 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Programs That Might Work "Differently"</div> A friend of mine sent me this in an email titled
"Programs that Service Pack 2 will **** up."


I took a closer look at the link
<a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130' target='_blank'>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130</a>
and I don't think he was far wrong.

The page is titled:
"Programs that may behave differently in Windows XP Service Pack 2"
and headings like this
"842242 Some programs seem to stop working after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2"
hardly inspire confidence do they?

There's a full list of affected programs on the page if you want
to check out what you'll be putting at risk if you, at some point,
have to download SP2.

I'm not in any rush to download Service Pack 2, and doubt I
ever will be with the constant growing reports that SP2 is causing
more problems that it solves.

Has anybody here downloaded SP2? Has it caused any hassles?
Views/opinions/comments/religious sacrifices here please.


QUICK EDIT:
I feel I should point out that i'm not saying you should or shouldn't
download SP2. I'm simply saying you should check out the known
issues and faults before you accidently screw some of your most used
programs / games up.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Have you ever used a software firewall, such as ZoneAlarm? There is a "learning" phase where programs request access to the Internet, and the software firewall requests confirmation. This is what is done in Windows XP.

    Also, many sites on the Internet use download managers that say "Please wait five seconds for your download to start, otherwise click here". These will no longer work for security reasons - too many malicious sites opening download requests and stupid users clicking "okay" to get rid of the pop-up.

    "Differently" does not mean "broken". However, XP is evil.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 17 2004, 02:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 17 2004, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Have you ever used a software firewall, such as ZoneAlarm? There is a "learning" phase where programs request access to the Internet, and the software firewall requests confirmation. This is what is done in Windows XP.

    Also, many sites on the Internet use download managers that say "Please wait five seconds for your download to start, otherwise click here". These will no longer work for security reasons - too many malicious sites opening download requests and stupid users clicking "okay" to get rid of the pop-up.

    "Differently" does not mean "broken". However, XP is evil. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So your saying that if your not an idiot, you don't need SP2 anyways?
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    It finally improves upon Internet Explorer 6 (although, since it's still Internet Explorer, it's not <b>much</b> of an improvement), and it adds some tighter security to Window's Firewall. It's a worthwhile download, even for advanced users. Tighter security in a computer is always a good idea, regardless of the expertise of the user.
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  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    Also, the Wireless component seems to work a bit better. It used to take 15-20 reboots to get my laptop to recognize the existance of networks, now it only takes a few reboots <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Oh, and for the sake of comparison and XP-bashing, said wireless works perfectly in Linux, with the exact same drivers as windows (since there are no *nix drivers for my card - I curse the name "Linksys").
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yay! Now Vice City won't install and Call of Duty is broken beyond all reason!
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  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    I heard from the Buzz forums that after installing SP2, Buzz does not work at all. Because of this I'm delaying the install of SP2 until someone confirms that Buzz can actually be run afterwards, or Microsoft fixes the issues with pre-SP2-programs.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    One program that breaks is, unfortunately, Nero Burning ROM (for those who don't know, it's a killer CD-burning program). Apparently, SP2 changes Windows' ATAPI protocol and Nero can no longer make use of it.

    I imagine Nero will be patched soon to fix the issue, but an issue it certainly is.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Aug 17 2004, 03:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Aug 17 2004, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One program that breaks is, unfortunately, Nero Burning ROM (for those who don't know, it's a killer CD-burning program). Apparently, SP2 changes Windows' ATAPI protocol and Nero can no longer make use of it.

    I imagine Nero will be patched soon to fix the issue, but an issue it certainly is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lame. I use Nero.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    It's a good fix - the change is a serious improvement. But yes, the "breaking everything" side effect is unfortunate.
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  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    Things are nice and quiet down here in 2k town.

    ps: ha ha.
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  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Aug 17 2004, 08:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Aug 17 2004, 08:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One program that breaks is, unfortunately, Nero Burning ROM (for those who don't know, it's a killer CD-burning program). Apparently, SP2 changes Windows' ATAPI protocol and Nero can no longer make use of it.

    I imagine Nero will be patched soon to fix the issue, but an issue it certainly is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It does?

    /me looks at DVD I just burned

    /me looks at screen saying "Service Pack 2"

    Works fine... Says it won't, but it does on mine at least...
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  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2004
    It breaks AOL.


    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha, there is a god.

    <!--QuoteBegin-version91x+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Things are nice and quiet down here in 2k town.

    ps: ha ha. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is. Sorry.
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yea, it also breaks Relic's .big extractor so I can't get the wonderful Homeworld 2 soundtrack. Great timing.
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  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is. Sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Score! Bingo! Checkmate! Game Over! The End! And remember, take care of yourself and each other!
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is.  Sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Score! Bingo! Checkmate! Game Over! The End! And remember, take care of yourself and each other! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    some of them do, and those aol users wont even realize that they surf in offline modus after installing servicepack 2.they will just think: wowie, service bag 2 rox, my intarweb is 100 times faster now
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  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 17 2004, 10:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 17 2004, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, it also breaks Relic's .big extractor so I can't get the wonderful Homeworld 2 soundtrack. Great timing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Iv been looking for that for ages, where do you get it???

    Anyway SP2 will probably be fixed with some patches, until then ill pass for 6months till its been sucsefully stablized.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dorian Gray+Aug 17 2004, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dorian Gray @ Aug 17 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> /me looks at DVD I just burned

    /me looks at screen saying "Service Pack 2"

    Works fine... Says it won't, but it does on mine at least... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, I'm going on my roommate's word -- I run Win2k, so the SP doesn't affect me. He said that it broke Nero, though. *shrug* Maybe it depends on your version (since Nero releases a new version every other day, practically).
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  • eggmaceggmac Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14246Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Aug 17 2004, 11:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Aug 17 2004, 11:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It breaks AOL.


    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha, there is a god.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol!
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  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    my nero said blah blah incompaitble but it stil burned a cd fine., Ive now downloaded an update for it tho <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Persoanlly most of my programs/games r new and nothing has been seriously broken except for stylexp and that was to b expected.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is.  Sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Score! Bingo! Checkmate! Game Over! The End! And remember, take care of yourself and each other! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    some of them do, and those aol users wont even realize that they surf in offline modus after installing servicepack 2.they will just think: wowie, service bag 2 rox, my intarweb is 100 times faster now <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't ever say "All" AOL users. There are a lot of us that are trapped here because of slow/inane/lazy parents.

    I myself have this to say: SP2 kicks ****, all except for 1 thing: It breaks mIRC if you have the firewall on. Just turning it on will disconnect you from IRC litterally 30 seconds after you connect, which just totally sucks. D:
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It breaks AOL.

    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha, there is a god. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yet another reason to use Trillian.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Aug 17 2004, 02:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Aug 17 2004, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's a good fix - the change is a serious improvement. But yes, the "breaking everything" side effect is unfortunate. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Reminds me of my own quote: "I fixed it - now it doesn't work."
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 17 2004, 11:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 17 2004, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is.  Sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Score! Bingo! Checkmate! Game Over! The End! And remember, take care of yourself and each other! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    some of them do, and those aol users wont even realize that they surf in offline modus after installing servicepack 2.they will just think: wowie, service bag 2 rox, my intarweb is 100 times faster now <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't ever say "All" AOL users. There are a lot of us that are trapped here because of slow/inane/lazy parents.

    I myself have this to say: SP2 kicks ****, all except for 1 thing: It breaks mIRC if you have the firewall on. Just turning it on will disconnect you from IRC litterally 30 seconds after you connect, which just totally sucks. D: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I uh, didn't say All AOL users. I said most, which is true.
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  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I still need to update to SP1. gg 56k modem.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 17 2004, 11:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 17 2004, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Aug 17 2004, 05:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Aug 17 2004, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 17 2004, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most AOL users don't know what Windows Update is.  Sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Score! Bingo! Checkmate! Game Over! The End! And remember, take care of yourself and each other! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    some of them do, and those aol users wont even realize that they surf in offline modus after installing servicepack 2.they will just think: wowie, service bag 2 rox, my intarweb is 100 times faster now <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't ever say "All" AOL users. There are a lot of us that are trapped here because of slow/inane/lazy parents.

    I myself have this to say: SP2 kicks ****, all except for 1 thing: It breaks mIRC if you have the firewall on. Just turning it on will disconnect you from IRC litterally 30 seconds after you connect, which just totally sucks. D: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I uh, didn't say All AOL users. I said most, which is true. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know you, did, but it was more to the others.

    Remember- there is always a exception to the stereotype. Also remember, I'm one of them.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Aug 17 2004, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Aug 17 2004, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It breaks AOL.

    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha, there is a god. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yet another reason to use Trillian. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I just wanted to say trillians irc client sucks
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 17 2004, 12:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 17 2004, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Aug 17 2004, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Aug 17 2004, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Aug 17 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It breaks AOL.

    Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha, there is a god. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yet another reason to use Trillian. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I just wanted to say trillians irc client sucks <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll start caring about that when I start using IRC.
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I use Nero 6.0.0.0 and it works fine. I have however had problems with Photoshop CS, which I don't see on that list.

    Doom3 Seems to work better too.
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