Building A New Pc

CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Good hookup or bad?</div> Hey guys.

I've sold this computer to a kid at school for $950.. i'm gunna give him the machine Friday.

So now i'm going to build my own. I was curious if you guys think this could be a decent machine or not.

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Processor - AMD Athlon 64 2800 Retail

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Motherboard - Abit KV8 Motherboard : <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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RAM - 512MB GeIL PC3200

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Graphics - Leadtek WinFast A360TD GeForce FX 5700 256MB DDR : <a href='http://www.leadtek.com.tw/3d_graphic/winfast_a360_td_myvivo_1.shtml' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB ATA-100 8MB Cache : <a href='http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1203N_sp.htm' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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DVD-RW - Sony DWU-18D 8x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Silver) - OEM : - 2.4X

Specs :

DVD+R DL Double Layer burning
- 8X max. DVD+R/-R burning
- 4X max. DVD+RW/-RW burning
- 40X max. CD-R & 24X max. CD-RW burning

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Case - Casecom KG-999 ATX Case In Beige With LCD Display and Front Usb/Audio/1394 : <a href='http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=1370253846&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=56974' target='_blank'>specs</a>

Also purchased stickers from the NS store to stick on =]

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I can grab the mouse and keyboard from ebay.. Mousemat from NS store.. floppy drive can be ripped out from my other PC. Good PC or Bad?
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  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I'd say go with the Athlon 64 3000 because of personal experince, and the prices are cheap now.

    Other than that, sounds like a great computer. How much are you paying for that video card?
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    £115.15

    Converted to American Dollars = $209.60
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  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cartman2b^+Aug 22 2004, 11:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cartman2b^ @ Aug 22 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> £115.15

    Converted to American Dollars = $209.60 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    o.O I think that might be a little expensive.

    But I would go with a well-known brand of ram such as Corsair or Viking.
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    <img src='http://www.techreport.com/etc/2004q3/source-engine/cs-1024.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    From that benchmark of CS:S, ive decided to go for a 5950.. 100fps is good enough ._.
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Skidzor+Aug 22 2004, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skidzor @ Aug 22 2004, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cartman2b^+Aug 22 2004, 11:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cartman2b^ @ Aug 22 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> £115.15

    Converted to American Dollars = $209.60 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    o.O I think that might be a little expensive.

    But I would go with a well-known brand of ram such as Corsair or Viking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry, i added the UK 17.5% VAT on it.

    The real price in American is : $178
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  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    edited August 2004
    Why are you going for an FX card, even commie with a gun(an nvidia fan) says the FX series is crap?
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I would try to get a 9800pro if i were you.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited August 2004
    Agreed, stay the *********************888888 away from the entire FX series. They're not even true DirectX 9.0 cards (they don't support shaders 2.0). That's the series that Valve defaults to DX8.1 with Source.

    Otherwise, looks like you're doing well.
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  • kavasakavasa Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11889Members, Constellation
    The boards at www.arstechnica.com are going to be far superior for technical advice. The mb/cpu technologia people <i>live</i> to critique builds, seriously. It's scary.
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  • GundamCLGundamCL Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18786Members
    I completely agree to stay away from fx cards becuase they don't use directx 9 for CS source.

    Are you shure you want a 64 bit because I think its a complete waste because they don't have any programs that use 64bit and the 64 bit barely improves it and by the time there are 64 bit programs, your proccessor speed would be outdated and you would need to upgrade once again.

    I suggest a MSI 9800 pro beucase it comes with a 9800xt core and a very very nice heatsink that covers both memory and the chip wiht a nice fan.
    <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-127-127&depa=1' target='_blank'>MSI 9800 Pro</a>

    And if you cant afford it, get a 9800 se and see if you can open all 8 pipelines.
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    I agree on all accounts on graphics card advice.

    However, as no one has really made any mobo points:

    Summary
    It's a bit expensive for the price. I would try eBuyer for bargain motherboards.

    Detail
    Only 3 Dims
    Why no PCIe? Soon the technology will be commonplace. Give it 5 months and PCI cards will be out of production. (Me predicts. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
    FSB is not listed, but I pressume (and hope,) it's 400Mhz.
    The only really nice feature is the ASUS POST Reporter. All others are pretty bland. (I mean, it stresses it supports USB 2, a technology which is old in computing terms. How many motherboards have only Usb1.1 now?)
    It does not list (or I could not find,) more detailed specification. How many USB ports? How many USB headers? Does it actually have IDE in addtion to SATA?

    RAID is not that useful too. Go for a cheaper one without it IMO. A NIC would be better. (I am sure there must be one, but I can't see it...)

    HTH
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  • GundamCLGundamCL Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18786Members
    I Agree with you BlueNovember, but PCI express cards cost a lot, and we don't know if he can afford a card that is expensive.
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    Get a 9800 pro instead, you'll be glad you did.
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 23 2004, 05:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 23 2004, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get a 9800 pro instead, you'll be glad you did. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Instead of a PCIe board? Hmmmgahhmmfhgaqwads.

    Close one.


    Yeah, GundamCL, PCIe costs a bomb as it's new, and not mass produced. (Of course you knew that, but I thought Id say it for bennifit of others.) It will fall in price rapidly as it gets taken up, and orders are made by 3rd party vendors. I buy OEM, so it's just a matter of time. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    That's the problem with buying a PC; if you wait a few weeks longer, you will get more for less.

    Personally, I am waiting until HL2 comes out to get a new graphics card, and until 2005 to get a PCIe board, (if my PC needs a full-blown update by then, which I doubt.)

    Still, if you have the money, go for it. PCIe is going to be really, really big.
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    PciE isn't going to matter for at least 2 years....
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Aug 23 2004, 05:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Aug 23 2004, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PciE isn't going to matter for at least 2 years.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    a) "PCIe" looks so much nicer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    b) Oo000... /me bets otherwise, in a daring move.

    If this gets heated, I'll be forced to quote reviews and specification sheets! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Btw, when mobile phones were released, they said it would never catch on. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GundamCLGundamCL Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18786Members
    PCI Express owns the pants off of 8xAGP because PCI Express is like a 16x or a 32x AGP slot, but I'm still a little fuzzy on the facts.
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-GundamCL+Aug 23 2004, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GundamCL @ Aug 23 2004, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PCI Express owns the pants off of 8xAGP because PCI Express is like a 16x or a 32x AGP slot, but I'm still a little fuzzy on the facts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that's pretty much it. Uber fast Bus speed, uber small slot, uber useful for builders of uber small pcs.

    Pretty "Uber", all in all.
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  • SizerSizer Join Date: 2003-10-08 Member: 21531Members
    edited August 2004
    Here's something I worked together at newegg:

    ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL $65.00

    SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model SP1614C, OEM Drive Only $99.00

    SAMSUNG Original 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM [Qty 2] $180.00

    SOLTEK "SL-K8AN2E-GR" NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL $99.00

    AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail $218.00

    SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X800 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL $469.00

    SAMSUNG 793DF-T/T 17" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL $149.00

    Final price:
    $1,294.98 after shipping

    Now, if I wanted a 9800pro, take $269 off that price and we have:
    $1,025 after shipping

    That would be a VERY hot system for the money. I forgot a dvd/rw, but who cares
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  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sizer+Aug 23 2004, 05:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sizer @ Aug 23 2004, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here's something I worked together at newegg:

    ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL $65.00

    SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model SP1614C, OEM Drive Only $99.00

    SAMSUNG Original 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM [Qty 2] $180.00

    SOLTEK "SL-K8AN2E-GR" NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL $99.00

    AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail $218.00

    SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X800 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL $469.00

    SAMSUNG 793DF-T/T 17" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL $149.00

    Final price:
    $1,294.98 after shipping

    Now, if I wanted a 9800pro, take $269 off that price and we have:
    $1,025 after shipping

    That would be a VERY hot system for the money. I forgot a dvd/rw, but who cares <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    unfortunatley for him he doesnt live in the US <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GundamCLGundamCL Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18786Members
    I would just get a 3000 xp mobile because you can overclock that mofo and use the extra money to get a good cooler for your cpu and vid card.

    And for the mem, I'd rather go Crosair, but thats my preferance.
    If you want a 400$ video card, get a decent power supply...

    Like at least a 420 watt one.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cartman2b^+Aug 22 2004, 11:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cartman2b^ @ Aug 22 2004, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey guys.

    I've sold this computer to a kid at school for $950.. i'm gunna give him the machine Friday.

    So now i'm going to build my own. I was curious if you guys think this could be a decent machine or not.

    ------------------------------

    Processor - AMD Athlon 64 2800 Retail

    ------------------------------

    Motherboard - Abit KV8 Motherboard : <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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    RAM - 512MB GeIL PC3200

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    Graphics - Leadtek WinFast A360TD GeForce FX 5700 256MB DDR : <a href='http://www.leadtek.com.tw/3d_graphic/winfast_a360_td_myvivo_1.shtml' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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    Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 120GB ATA-100 8MB Cache : <a href='http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1203N_sp.htm' target='_blank'>specs</a>

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    DVD-RW - Sony DWU-18D 8x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Silver) - OEM : - 2.4X

    Specs :

    DVD+R DL Double Layer burning
    - 8X max. DVD+R/-R burning
    - 4X max. DVD+RW/-RW burning
    - 40X max. CD-R & 24X max. CD-RW burning

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    Case - Casecom KG-999 ATX Case In Beige With LCD Display and Front Usb/Audio/1394 : <a href='http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=1370253846&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=56974' target='_blank'>specs</a>

    Also purchased stickers from the NS store to stick on =]

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    I can grab the mouse and keyboard from ebay.. Mousemat from NS store.. floppy drive can be ripped out from my other PC. Good PC or Bad? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    second-rate video card with first-class other hardware? ew. ew ew ew.
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