<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 24 2004, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 24 2004, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Im gonna seriously consider becomming a pirate if this shiz goes down <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a black paper hat from Long John Silver's you can borrow. It's menacing.
<!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh. I'm not a scientist, nothing I can do about it. No point worrying about it if there's nothing I can change, now is there? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can use public transport instead of driving your car. You can carpool when possible. You can install solar panels at your home. You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels). More?
<!--QuoteBegin-2_of_8+Aug 24 2004, 11:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Aug 24 2004, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh. I'm not a scientist, nothing I can do about it. No point worrying about it if there's nothing I can change, now is there? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can use public transport instead of driving your car. You can carpool when possible. You can install solar panels at your home. You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels). More? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If everyone would do that, it would do something. If one guy does that, it doesnt effect anything at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Charge+Aug 25 2004, 12:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Charge @ Aug 25 2004, 12:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-2_of_8+Aug 24 2004, 11:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Aug 24 2004, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 25 2004, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh. I'm not a scientist, nothing I can do about it. No point worrying about it if there's nothing I can change, now is there? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can use public transport instead of driving your car. You can carpool when possible. You can install solar panels at your home. You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels). More? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If everyone would do that, it would do something. If one guy does that, it doesnt effect anything at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's how everyone thinks. And what does it cost you? Or others?
Seriously, it's our primitive brains that think "OMG ESPLOZEON!! YaY!!1" that's put us into this mess, along with greedy people in high places... *Sigh*
Not even aliens would want to invade earth; no profit to be had... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-2_of_8+Aug 24 2004, 11:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Aug 24 2004, 11:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell me what that was based on. Then, tell me what this oil theory is based on. Research of top-level scientists (find some links at the site that was listed at the thread topic).
I don't know how some brains work, but I think it should be pretty obvious that if one's constantly depleting one resource (which is not replenishing), it will end some time. No? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's hype. Just like the Y2K scare was - which, in terms of how the computers were going to be affected, was researched just as much, if not more than this current oil scare.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 24 2004, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 24 2004, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-2_of_8+Aug 24 2004, 11:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Aug 24 2004, 11:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell me what that was based on. Then, tell me what this oil theory is based on. Research of top-level scientists (find some links at the site that was listed at the thread topic).
I don't know how some brains work, but I think it should be pretty obvious that if one's constantly depleting one resource (which is not replenishing), it will end some time. No? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's hype. Just like the Y2K scare was - which, in terms of how the computers were going to be affected, was researched just as much, if not more than this current oil scare. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Medhead- theres a difference.
No matter how much you try to argue, there is a finite amount of oil in the Earth. Nothing you say will put more oil in the ground. And it will eventually run out.
This isn't about running out of oil, its about running out of CHEAP oil. (Still the same near-apocolyptic events could happen) Just thought I'd clarify
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 24 2004, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 24 2004, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This isn't about running out of oil, its about running out of CHEAP oil. (Still the same near-apocolyptic events could happen) Just thought I'd clarify <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, thats the current issue. But eventually we'll be out of oil completely.
Mm.. well I predict one day the world will slowly come to a hault. Gas stations will shut down and the power plants will chug out. We've dark days ahead, there shall be pirates. *nudge*
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Aug 24 2004, 11:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Aug 24 2004, 11:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No matter how much you try to argue, there is a finite amount of oil in the Earth. Nothing you say will put more oil in the ground. And it will eventually run out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Never said anything to the contrary. Remember, there were certain computers affected by the Y2K fiasco. However, it was over-hyped. Just like this oil "crisis." Yes, it's running out. No, it's not as bad as this site claims.
Heh, your all thinking about how much were going to be screwed when oil runs out. You all need to stop thinking about that, and more about how much were screwed <b>right now</b>. If any of you have read the latest edition of National Geographic you will realize that were screwing our selves by burning oil.
It's not a question of how quickly were going to run out of oil, but how quickly we can stop it, and stop global warming. You'd be surprised by the amount of people that live with in 3 feet of sea level, its over 100,000. If we continue burning oil, we will make the problem of global warming worse and 100,000 people will be out of a place to stay. Thats not just in some remote part of the world ether. Florida is going to get hit hard by this. If the water level rises 3 feet 70% Florida will be covered with water. (don't quote me on that). Anyway what I want to say is that we have to find new souses of energy now, or else were going to have more to worry about than just finding the next oil.
Also to counter all those wanabe flammers I know that oil isn't the only part of global warming, but I do know its a big part of it. Why don't we try to work on these things in little steps instead of trying to fix it all at once?
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edited August 2004
Cpl.Davis jumps onto the Pirate ship with CWAG and Ha.ze.
Hmm This makes three! One more and we can have an away team!
Good thing I live somewhat near Niagra Falls and the hyrdoplants range as well. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And if that fails, well the local nuclear power plant will suffice for a little while longer.
CWAG, I say we be pirates and go steal all the Energon!
If its good enough for the transformers, its good enough in my book.
Global warming, meet Y2K scare. Y2K scare, meet global warming.
If you seriously think global warming is a reality, you're crazy. There is no danger of flooding from melting ice caps - not because the ice caps may never melt, but the melting of the ice caps will not greatly affect the water level.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 24 2004, 09:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 24 2004, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We shall have an old style pirate ship however it will have a taco bell express and be powered on love <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Right. CWAG, get in this closet with me so we can start stockpiling extra love for the long journey.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Aug 25 2004, 12:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Aug 25 2004, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Right. CWAG, get in this closet with me so we can start stockpiling extra love for the long journey.
And come alone.
And by alone I mean without your pants. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You've crossed the line. You're no longer a pirate.
I have full faith in oil companies to come up with alternative fuel or more efficent fuel sources to steal our money for as long as humanily possible. I wouldnt be to worried about running out of oil as I would guess they already are able to produce more oil and just arnt doing so because they would like to make more money in the mean time (from cheaper sources).
Oil companies want money, to drive themselves out of buisnesse would not be a good plan for them. I have full faith in our oil companies to find way to make money.
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edited August 2004
Those of you who think we are going to run out of oil ought to read up on <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization' target='_blank'>Thermal Depolymerization</a> which allows fossil fuel to be made from any organic waste.
<!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Aug 24 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Aug 24 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those of you who think we are going to run out of oil ought to read up on <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization' target='_blank'>Thermal Depolymerization</a> which allows fossil fuel to be made from any organic waste. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can make oil, its just that its VERY expensive and its not worth the cost to do it. Its much easier to drill a bunch of holes in the ground and just suck it out.
As for the possibility of this happening, it could very much happen. This isn't the same thing as the Y2K scare. You have computer bugs on one hand(which can be fixed easily), and you have oil which is scarce and finite for the most part. You can't compare the two.
Do I think that this will happen within a year or so? No but its going to happen eventually and this is why Bush should be spending more money on technology for alternative sources for energy.
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I have a black paper hat from Long John Silver's you can borrow. It's menacing.
You can use public transport instead of driving your car.
You can carpool when possible.
You can install solar panels at your home.
You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels).
More?
You can use public transport instead of driving your car.
You can carpool when possible.
You can install solar panels at your home.
You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels).
More? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If everyone would do that, it would do something. If one guy does that, it doesnt effect anything at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You can use public transport instead of driving your car.
You can carpool when possible.
You can install solar panels at your home.
You can conserve electricity (after all, it's generated from (mainly) fossil fuels).
More? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If everyone would do that, it would do something. If one guy does that, it doesnt effect anything at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's how everyone thinks.
And what does it cost you? Or others?
Awwwww, damn. We're screwed... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Seriously, it's our primitive brains that think "OMG ESPLOZEON!! YaY!!1" that's put us into this mess, along with greedy people in high places...
*Sigh*
Not even aliens would want to invade earth; no profit to be had... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Then, tell me what this oil theory is based on. Research of top-level scientists (find some links at the site that was listed at the thread topic).
I don't know how some brains work, but I think it should be pretty obvious that if one's constantly depleting one resource (which is not replenishing), it will end some time. No? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's hype. Just like the Y2K scare was - which, in terms of how the computers were going to be affected, was researched just as much, if not more than this current oil scare.
Then, tell me what this oil theory is based on. Research of top-level scientists (find some links at the site that was listed at the thread topic).
I don't know how some brains work, but I think it should be pretty obvious that if one's constantly depleting one resource (which is not replenishing), it will end some time. No? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's hype. Just like the Y2K scare was - which, in terms of how the computers were going to be affected, was researched just as much, if not more than this current oil scare. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Medhead- theres a difference.
No matter how much you try to argue, there is a finite amount of oil in the Earth. Nothing you say will put more oil in the ground. And it will eventually run out.
Well, thats the current issue. But eventually we'll be out of oil completely.
Luckily the power to my home is from a nuclear plant. YAY
Never said anything to the contrary. Remember, there were certain computers affected by the Y2K fiasco. However, it was over-hyped. Just like this oil "crisis." Yes, it's running out. No, it's not as bad as this site claims.
It's not a question of how quickly were going to run out of oil, but how quickly we can stop it, and stop global warming. You'd be surprised by the amount of people that live with in 3 feet of sea level, its over 100,000. If we continue burning oil, we will make the problem of global warming worse and 100,000 people will be out of a place to stay. Thats not just in some remote part of the world ether. Florida is going to get hit hard by this. If the water level rises 3 feet 70% Florida will be covered with water. (don't quote me on that). Anyway what I want to say is that we have to find new souses of energy now, or else were going to have more to worry about than just finding the next oil.
Also to counter all those wanabe flammers I know that oil isn't the only part of global warming, but I do know its a big part of it. Why don't we try to work on these things in little steps instead of trying to fix it all at once?
Hmm This makes three! One more and we can have an away team!
Good thing I live somewhat near Niagra Falls and the hyrdoplants range as well. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And if that fails, well the local nuclear power plant will suffice for a little while longer.
CWAG, I say we be pirates and go steal all the Energon!
If its good enough for the transformers, its good enough in my book.
If you seriously think global warming is a reality, you're crazy. There is no danger of flooding from melting ice caps - not because the ice caps may never melt, but the melting of the ice caps will not greatly affect the water level.
Right. CWAG, get in this closet with me so we can start stockpiling extra love for the long journey.
And come alone.
And by alone I mean without your pants.
Thats 2 male posters I've convinced to proposition me.
And come alone.
And by alone I mean without your pants. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You've crossed the line. You're no longer a pirate.
Oil companies want money, to drive themselves out of buisnesse would not be a good plan for them. I have full faith in our oil companies to find way to make money.
You can make oil, its just that its VERY expensive and its not worth the cost to do it. Its much easier to drill a bunch of holes in the ground and just suck it out.
As for the possibility of this happening, it could very much happen. This isn't the same thing as the Y2K scare. You have computer bugs on one hand(which can be fixed easily), and you have oil which is scarce and finite for the most part. You can't compare the two.
Do I think that this will happen within a year or so? No but its going to happen eventually and this is why Bush should be spending more money on technology for alternative sources for energy.