Strange Radeon Behavior

CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
<div class="IPBDescription">dubbyateeff</div> OK I think this is a bit odd.

KOTOR
Max AF
Max AA
Max graphics
1024x768x32@85hz

FPS: Constant 85

Halo
No AF
No AA
Max graphics
Same resolution as KOTOR
20-85fps. 85 when doing anything. The second I pull the trigger and hold it down the framerates lower to 20 slowly, as I run out of ammo. Stop firing, FPS goes back to 85.

Counter-Strike Source
Max graphics
No AF
No AA
Same resolution as above
60-70fps stress test at stock settings
20-40fps online
70-120 FPS When hosting the server.

Athlon XP 2700+
512 PC2700
MSI Radeon 9800 @ XT speeds
WinXP pro SP2
DX9.0c
All drivers and such updated.

I just don't understand how select games run fantastic maxed out (C&C Generals) yet simpler games like Halo gives me that weird behavior. Anyone that can help I appreciate it.

Comments

  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Lower the Core / Memory speed to lower the temperature?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    samething at stock speeds :|
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 02:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> MSI Radeon 9800 @ XT speeds <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ever thought that could be the problem?
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    /offtopic i just noticed cwag is down to 19 posts! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    apparently resetting postcounts are a punishment, a better one would've been temp banning.


    Anyway I reset the speeds to stock on the Radeon, same "issue"
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Sorry CWAG but I think you sir, need to return your card. Sounds faulty to me.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    CWAG i still say my gf 4600 is better <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Ill run a 3dmark 03 test and see what happens.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Yea, you may want to flash it back to Pro speeds if that fails, just to see what happens.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Also my PSU is only 350 watts. Apparently it needs at least 300w...but could that be the problem?
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also my PSU is only 350 watts. Apparently it needs at least 300w...but could that be the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Could be, go buy a 500watt now ! 350 watt with an AGP 8x card, what are you thinking CWAG??
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I'd have ordered it today if I didnt buy some corsair xms DDR just now ... =(
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd have ordered it today if I didnt buy some corsair xms DDR just now ... =( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can't you cancel it for a couple of dollars or something? I've cancelled stuff with Amazon before.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    The only problem is Halo, which is a tempetious conversion at best. Your card is fine.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    I've had scores of problems with games since I updated to DX 9.0c. If I could roll back, I would.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I scored a 5600 in 3dmark03...is that normal?
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 05:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I scored a 5600 in 3dmark03...is that normal? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I scored a 5600 in 3dmark03...is that normal? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I scored a bit lower (5200 IIRC) because I have a Pro (128MB) and my motherboard sees my processor as a 1800+ "OC'ed" to 2400+ (by FSB 133 to 166)

    Seems fair to me if you have a 2700+ and a XT
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Halo has those horrible pixel shaders which every card suckade at doing......AFAIK.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Halo runs awful on most PC's.
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Sep 2 2004, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Sep 2 2004, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've had scores of problems with games since I updated to DX 9.0c. If I could roll back, I would. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You <b>can</b> remove DirectX 9.0c and
    install 9.0b but it's abit of a risky procedure
    because DirectX is considered a core component
    of the Windows Operating System.

    Look for a program called something like
    "DirectX Eradicator" (Guru3d.com might have it,
    if not check Driverheaven.com) make sure to
    study the readme very carefully.

    Good luck.

    Oh and to stay on-topic and not hijack CWAG's
    topic, Halo runs fine for me on Multi-Player
    (I have similar system requirements to you.)
    but the single player barely runs at all.
    (I have to switch off dust/particles etc and run in 800*600.)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Anyone have a HALO cd key I can buy off them? I spilled mountain dew on it and I cant read the last series of numbers off the cd sleve :|
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    Since when has Halo been a "simple" game?

    Man, I must be getting old. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday-+Sep 2 2004, 07:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Sep 2 2004, 07:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Sep 2 2004, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 2 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also my PSU is only 350 watts. Apparently it needs at least 300w...but could that be the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Could be, go buy a 500watt now ! 350 watt with an AGP 8x card, what are you thinking CWAG?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have a 250 W power supply on my computer with a 9600xt, and it runs fine playing doom3.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hawkeye+Sep 2 2004, 01:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Sep 2 2004, 01:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Since when has Halo been a "simple" game?

    Man, I must be getting old. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He meens a game that was released in <b>2001</b> for the <b>Xbox</b>, and hes wondering why it doesent run well on his pc.

    To put it simply, the halo conversion to the pc sucks. My freinds top-o the line (and i mean the whole freaking system is like powerfull enough to run NASA's comps) gets horrible fps in halo.

    Well, horrible for him.
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Sep 2 2004, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Sep 2 2004, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Halo runs awful on most PC's. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except for mine.

    HA HAAA!!!!! *swings away*
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    So you get to play an awful port of an already bad game at a good frame rate?

    Yay. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Sep 2 2004, 04:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Sep 2 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG i still say my gf 4600 is better <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I tried Halo on a borrowed 4600 and it ran silk and looked brilliant. I get my 9600 Pro and it looks pretty much the same but the performance is horrible.

    Must just be that game.
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