And thats why I play eve, almost a full team of devs still. User ran suppoer (hand picked by the devs). And constant updates with new items ships skills and systems (worlds). And best of all its built around pvp but theres zones were pvp is harder then other (ex: its 1.0 to 0.0 1.0 is loaded full of npc "cops" that will own you fast and hard if you attack a player. Then theres the 0.0 area were its basicly kill or be killed with npc players and human both fighting)
<!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Sep 4 2004, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Sep 4 2004, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it a brainless click-n-wait snooze fest game, or do you actually get to participate by hammering your keyboard from time to time? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I do plenty of mashing on my warrior. He's also a fledgling chef, which is pretty fun.
Lots of recipes and things to collect to make into food, which heals you. Useful for the soloing warrior.
The game is fun <i>only when you are with others, and interacting with them.</i> Just like all other MMORPGs, its not fun to solo at all, and the best fun is had when your playing with friends and the slightest hint of roleplay. The combat is pretty cool, there are plenty, and I mean <b>plenty</b> of skills that vary your attacks to learn, so you usually dont sit back and watch, but more are up front, clicking, and to impress others, jumping over and slashing the enemy in the face while doing a three sixty in the air (Guilty as CHARGED, officer! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). I also enjoy making deals with PC merchants, haggling down their prices. I traded thirteen pieces of linen cloth for a whopping fourty muffins today, I'm such a saavy shopper.
One thing I'm really looking foward to doing is getting a steed then flying over the great sea and into the maelstorm. That should be very intresting. Also, getting a ground steed that is the FLAMING HELL HORSE!!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (hell yeah)
Its a blast to play guys, and it kicks the crap out of EVE. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Plenty of PvP if you go to a PvP server and organize raids with high enough levels to get through creeps and into enemy terrority, or find a way around them. Its really, really fun. I reccommend everyone here to at least trying a free trial if one comes out. My undead character is so cool.. has no lower jaw, flabs of skin hanging from the roof of his mouth, purple skin, shaggy black, dead hair, and glowing eyes. Oh, its sooooo foreboding!
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 4 2004, 10:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 4 2004, 10:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why the hell are the Undead on the same side as the Orcs? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> because there are only 2 sides and i dont think they were about to put humans and undead together or orcs and humans together <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if your playing the beta make a new human get 50 copper and take a griphon up to iron forge the ride up there is amazing it shows off some very nice scenery and then you can explore a HUGE town <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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just a few minutes ago all the servers went down, before that i was talking to some humans about the ride over to where i was (im a night elf) and they said all the rides are beautiful. im plannin on going over to the human place soon.
<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Sep 4 2004, 10:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Sep 4 2004, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if your playing the beta make a new human get 50 copper and take a griphon up to iron forge the ride up there is amazing it shows off some very nice scenery and then you can explore a HUGE town <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> infinitum i got your dwarf love <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
well it was partly because of the griphon ride to iron forge from the human town is amazing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, It's crap, the framrate of the video really sucks... So uh... Yea, I'll make abetter video later, this one is about 50 megs, 640x480 and about 2 minutes long.
I've seen people moaning about it on the servers but honestly, I've found it to be excellent.
I'm playing from Australia and the server pings are, on average, 1500 for me. That may sound bad but it's truly awesome. I only get a slight teleporting effect from other players, no discernable hangs, and I can still interact with the environment fluidly.
I must say, for my first MMORPG I'm having an absolute ball, the only thing that keeps me from enjoying myself fully is the constant downtime on the servers but I dont mind this so much as this is a stress test after all.
A thought struck me though. When this gets released, will the be a Transformers themed mod for it? Or will someone simply make a full blown MMO game for Transformers. I'd definetely fork out money for that puppy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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In further relation to lag, I went into a server about 2 hours ago when most of them were shut up. There were about 200 - 400 players in the same region at the same time and it still held up very well. Blizzard certainly know their stuff. Load times are excellent for me as well by the way <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and i aint downloading a video of a game i have <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
anyone got any ideas when the servers will be up again?
They said they were going to be back up in 20 minutes but it's been 5 times that time already so...
They said they'd keep us posted <a href='http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-server-status&t=76&p=1#post76' target='_blank'>Here</a> So keep an eye on there and just try to keep yourself busy I guess. Must be something major.
That said, if you're running out of BW, chuck it into a torrent, and i'll help seed <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nice screenies so far. Got anything that properly reflects the game as you play it? Fighting, etc?
i just read on the forums that alot of the graphical bits are "disabled" in the stress test clients i have no idea why blizzard would do this when they were active in the closed beta.. (this includes swaying grass , reflective water , etc...)
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How big's the world? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge.
<!--QuoteBegin-Rion+Sep 5 2004, 03:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rion @ Sep 5 2004, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How big's the world? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Moving from area to area instantly (teleportals, death) can give some serious hangs as it renders everything new, but it's nothing like olde everquest (Okay I walked around the mountain... time to load! I'll be back in ten minutes, gotta buy some drinks)
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Sep 5 2004, 02:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Sep 5 2004, 02:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Someone was posting this in the adminmod IRC channel: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL sort of reminded me of a pic that someone sent me. Twas a Night Elf strip party XD
Apparently everyone ran around in their undies. NE males look very.....uhh......funny? But then again, further talk of said pictures is prohibited XD
Nonetheless, nice screenies indeed. The best thing is that it doesn't take forever to load maps XD
It's difficult to tell whats happening while fighting just by a screen so I'll elaborate on it.
Essentially you select what you want to attack by right clicking. You then close in on it and you start doing your standard attack automatically. You can channel spells by pressing the "Weapon Slot Number" that activates that ability or by using the interface and clicking the friend/foe to use the buff/attack on.
Magical units, such as Priests, use mana for spells. This is fairly straightforward.
Warrior classes use rage, which is somewhat different. As you attack creatures or enemies your rage meter increases, allowing you to perform special moves that deal bonus damage.
Combat is thus surprisingly easy and very very noob friendly, whilst also being entertaining and allowing skilled players to vary their combat style, keeping it fresh.
So far I havent gotten past the "Do this, collect that" missions due to downtime but as I said if this is the start then I'm having fun fun fun.
Also, has anyone found a way to get to Outland? I've seen texture references in the files and it would be awesome if I could take a look at it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Sep 5 2004, 03:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Sep 5 2004, 03:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's difficult to tell whats happening while fighting just by a screen so I'll elaborate on it.
Essentially you select what you want to attack by right clicking. You then close in on it and you start doing your standard attack automatically. You can channel spells by pressing the "Weapon Slot Number" that activates that ability or by using the interface and clicking the friend/foe to use the buff/attack on.
Magical units, such as Priests, use mana for spells. This is fairly straightforward.
Warrior classes use rage, which is somewhat different. As you attack creatures or enemies your rage meter increases, allowing you to perform special moves that deal bonus damage.
Combat is thus surprisingly easy and very very noob friendly, whilst also being entertaining and allowing skilled players to vary their combat style, keeping it fresh.
So far I havent gotten past the "Do this, collect that" missions due to downtime but as I said if this is the start then I'm having fun fun fun.
Also, has anyone found a way to get to Outland? I've seen texture references in the files and it would be awesome if I could take a look at it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They're always fun at first. I remember when I started with Everquest (aside from getting lost) exploring was exceptionally fun. I love exploring with lots of possible NPC interaction. Learning the history of a world (if delicately and realisticlly entwined). Once you get to level 25 or so in EQ it just gets tedious. Plus they made it far too much of a pain in the **** to level.
How's this handled in game? Can you buy property? Is it tedious repetition with limited exploration, or ambitiously interesting with seemingly infinite places to visit? I'm sure no one's high enough level for anything really interesting like that, but how's the balance and stuff? Can you see yourself playing the game for 6-12 months?
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Sep 5 2004, 03:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Sep 5 2004, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Rion+Sep 5 2004, 03:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rion @ Sep 5 2004, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Sep 3 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How big's the world? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Moving from area to area instantly (teleportals, death) can give some serious hangs as it renders everything new, but it's nothing like olde everquest (Okay I walked around the mountain... time to load! I'll be back in ten minutes, gotta buy some drinks) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well I don't exactly consider that loading, well I supposer I kinda do, but it's almost a given that you'll stop for that.. but the stop is generally less than 5 seconds for me... and I die alot <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I love climbing up the mountains, finding a nice high spot, and then just jumping for it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I found a nice waterfall in the NE island, I fell kinda far, died, went back as a spirit to try and find my body on a ledge to revive and.. jump again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I missed and fell even further and died again, while being dead, which was odd, but I didn't complain.. since I think I was out of the map. I never think to screenshot when I find a spot where I stop and go "wow that's pretty". Largest thing I've seen so far was an Anchient of War. They're like twice the size of a protector!!
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I do plenty of mashing on my warrior. He's also a fledgling chef, which is pretty fun.
Lots of recipes and things to collect to make into food, which heals you. Useful for the soloing warrior.
Or even skinning! SKINNING FTW!
One thing I'm really looking foward to doing is getting a steed then flying over the great sea and into the maelstorm. That should be very intresting. Also, getting a ground steed that is the FLAMING HELL HORSE!!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (hell yeah)
Its a blast to play guys, and it kicks the crap out of EVE. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Plenty of PvP if you go to a PvP server and organize raids with high enough levels to get through creeps and into enemy terrority, or find a way around them. Its really, really fun. I reccommend everyone here to at least trying a free trial if one comes out. My undead character is so cool.. has no lower jaw, flabs of skin hanging from the roof of his mouth, purple skin, shaggy black, dead hair, and glowing eyes. Oh, its sooooo foreboding!
because there are only 2 sides and i dont think they were about to put humans and undead together or orcs and humans together <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if your playing the beta make a new human get 50 copper and take a griphon up to iron forge the ride up there is amazing it shows off some very nice scenery and then you can explore a HUGE town <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There is seriously not enough Dwarf love in this thread.
My lvl10 Dwarf warrior, outside of Ironforge. The last great Dwarf city.
The inside is H-U-G-E.
infinitum i got your dwarf love <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, It's crap, the framrate of the video really sucks... So uh... Yea, I'll make abetter video later, this one is about 50 megs, 640x480 and about 2 minutes long.
It's quicktime, so right click -> save as
I'm playing from Australia and the server pings are, on average, 1500 for me. That may sound bad but it's truly awesome. I only get a slight teleporting effect from other players, no discernable hangs, and I can still interact with the environment fluidly.
I must say, for my first MMORPG I'm having an absolute ball, the only thing that keeps me from enjoying myself fully is the constant downtime on the servers but I dont mind this so much as this is a stress test after all.
A thought struck me though. When this gets released, will the be a Transformers themed mod for it? Or will someone simply make a full blown MMO game for Transformers. I'd definetely fork out money for that puppy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
{EDIT}
In further relation to lag, I went into a server about 2 hours ago when most of them were shut up. There were about 200 - 400 players in the same region at the same time and it still held up very well. Blizzard certainly know their stuff. Load times are excellent for me as well by the way <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
anyone got any ideas when the servers will be up again?
They said they'd keep us posted <a href='http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-server-status&t=76&p=1#post76' target='_blank'>Here</a> So keep an eye on there and just try to keep yourself busy I guess. Must be something major.
That said, if you're running out of BW, chuck it into a torrent, and i'll help seed <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nice screenies so far. Got anything that properly reflects the game as you play it? Fighting, etc?
I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge.
I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moving from area to area instantly (teleportals, death) can give some serious hangs as it renders everything new, but it's nothing like olde everquest (Okay I walked around the mountain... time to load! I'll be back in ten minutes, gotta buy some drinks)
LOL sort of reminded me of a pic that someone sent me. Twas a Night Elf strip party XD
Apparently everyone ran around in their undies. NE males look very.....uhh......funny?
But then again, further talk of said pictures is prohibited XD
Nonetheless, nice screenies indeed. The best thing is that it doesn't take forever to load maps XD
Essentially you select what you want to attack by right clicking. You then close in on it and you start doing your standard attack automatically. You can channel spells by pressing the "Weapon Slot Number" that activates that ability or by using the interface and clicking the friend/foe to use the buff/attack on.
Magical units, such as Priests, use mana for spells. This is fairly straightforward.
Warrior classes use rage, which is somewhat different. As you attack creatures or enemies your rage meter increases, allowing you to perform special moves that deal bonus damage.
Combat is thus surprisingly easy and very very noob friendly, whilst also being entertaining and allowing skilled players to vary their combat style, keeping it fresh.
So far I havent gotten past the "Do this, collect that" missions due to downtime but as I said if this is the start then I'm having fun fun fun.
Also, has anyone found a way to get to Outland? I've seen texture references in the files and it would be awesome if I could take a look at it.
Essentially you select what you want to attack by right clicking. You then close in on it and you start doing your standard attack automatically. You can channel spells by pressing the "Weapon Slot Number" that activates that ability or by using the interface and clicking the friend/foe to use the buff/attack on.
Magical units, such as Priests, use mana for spells. This is fairly straightforward.
Warrior classes use rage, which is somewhat different. As you attack creatures or enemies your rage meter increases, allowing you to perform special moves that deal bonus damage.
Combat is thus surprisingly easy and very very noob friendly, whilst also being entertaining and allowing skilled players to vary their combat style, keeping it fresh.
So far I havent gotten past the "Do this, collect that" missions due to downtime but as I said if this is the start then I'm having fun fun fun.
Also, has anyone found a way to get to Outland? I've seen texture references in the files and it would be awesome if I could take a look at it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
They're always fun at first. I remember when I started with Everquest (aside from getting lost) exploring was exceptionally fun. I love exploring with lots of possible NPC interaction. Learning the history of a world (if delicately and realisticlly entwined). Once you get to level 25 or so in EQ it just gets tedious. Plus they made it far too much of a pain in the **** to level.
How's this handled in game? Can you buy property? Is it tedious repetition with limited exploration, or ambitiously interesting with seemingly infinite places to visit? I'm sure no one's high enough level for anything really interesting like that, but how's the balance and stuff? Can you see yourself playing the game for 6-12 months?
I have yet to encounter one load time, besides the loading the actual game, I'm a level 11 NE Rouge. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moving from area to area instantly (teleportals, death) can give some serious hangs as it renders everything new, but it's nothing like olde everquest (Okay I walked around the mountain... time to load! I'll be back in ten minutes, gotta buy some drinks) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well I don't exactly consider that loading, well I supposer I kinda do, but it's almost a given that you'll stop for that.. but the stop is generally less than 5 seconds for me... and I die alot <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I love climbing up the mountains, finding a nice high spot, and then just jumping for it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I found a nice waterfall in the NE island, I fell kinda far, died, went back as a spirit to try and find my body on a ledge to revive and.. jump again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I missed and fell even further and died again, while being dead, which was odd, but I didn't complain.. since I think I was out of the map. I never think to screenshot when I find a spot where I stop and go "wow that's pretty". Largest thing I've seen so far was an Anchient of War. They're like twice the size of a protector!!