Bring It Back To B6!
Thats_Enough
USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">not spam. i swaerrrr.</div> I have a solution to all the script whining, all the B5 bashing, and everything.
Bring back two things:
1) babblers... why not :-p haha
2) nuke. everyone is happy when EVERYTHING just goes boom.
Can't go wrong :-p
No but seriously, I wanted to make this topic to just talk about things that you miss from the older versions of NS, and the things you are glad are GONE.
I know I'll miss the TRUE permagorge from days past. I remember when I would go gorge, and it was like being the comm for the alien team. I'd have a skulk patrol that would protect me, and I would be the god of aliens lol. That was good times.
Now... post! And no flames! I have my anti-flame suit on <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Bring back two things:
1) babblers... why not :-p haha
2) nuke. everyone is happy when EVERYTHING just goes boom.
Can't go wrong :-p
No but seriously, I wanted to make this topic to just talk about things that you miss from the older versions of NS, and the things you are glad are GONE.
I know I'll miss the TRUE permagorge from days past. I remember when I would go gorge, and it was like being the comm for the alien team. I'd have a skulk patrol that would protect me, and I would be the god of aliens lol. That was good times.
Now... post! And no flames! I have my anti-flame suit on <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Comments
babblers
old fade blink getting me stuck in the wall
Mines shining a laser beam
paralyze
the old marine skins
the temp skulk model that was used in nstr 2.0
the temp welder model that was used in nstr 2.0
having a website that worked...
Web at hive 3
No Build Restriction Circles
<b>Don't Miss:</b>
gestatating and ending up under the floor
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not being a playtester
not having a link to my site on readyroom.org
No handgrenades
Old Build restriction Circles (trust me, they used to be HUGE)
-Old Fade blink, complete with nightcrawler "biff" sound
-Blabbers
-Laser Mining
-Paralyse
-Web at Hive 2
-Old Acid Rocket
-Turning the marine base into a compact all-purpose tower complete with IP, ArmsLab, TF, Armory, Protolab and Obs. (Trust me, i've done it before.)
-Going to parts of the map where you didn't belong. (eg. Space marines in old nancy.)
-Lerk Spikes
-Old Lerk Flight system
-Able to set up 2 hives simultaneously
-JPs with unlimited fuel
-stopcommandermode and spectator bug <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-Old umbra that stopped 5 out of 6 bullets
-Magazine-clipped GL
-and many many other things (no endgame timer, no loss of upgrades when chambers died.)
<b>Don't Miss:</b>
2.0
3.0v3
3.0v4
3.0v4a
Don't Miss:
2.0
3.0v3
3.0v4
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That my friend is the quote of the day.
-Turning the marine base into a compact all-purpose tower complete with IP, ArmsLab, TF, Armory, Protolab and Obs. (Trust me, i've done it before.)
-Going to parts of the map where you didn't belong. (eg. Space marines in old nancy.)
-JPs with unlimited fuel
-stopcommandermode and spectator bug <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-and many many other things (no endgame timer, no loss of upgrades when chambers died.)
<b>Don't Miss:</b>
2.0
3.0v3
3.0v4
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Basically you miss everything that exploited the game in some way, or made the game unfun.
Babblers
Old Bile Bomb
God Fades
Epic Long Games
Simultanious Hive Building
Old GL With 6 Grenade Clip
NS being the only map type
Fatty Getting Escorts <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>DONT MISS</b>
2.x (God I hated that version)
Buggy Sinking Buildings
Pretty Much All The Bugs That The Devs Got Rid Of
Babblers (those were the best fun weapon! They confused the hell out of turrets too)
Fade having BB
Redemption onos that were basically invincible
Ultimate base-breaking onos of firey doom from the first couple beta's
perma-gorge! <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
the old maps! they rocked! especially the old bast
DONT Miss:
Flying jetpack HA's
Buggy old blink <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
turret farms that needed no TF
You mean the jp-hmg-gg?
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Well try play 1.04 without rushing JPs, suddenly gets a whole lot funnier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-The babblers asked WAY too much of the servers, thus resulting in lag.
-The Nuke is overpowered, its like a timebomb, the commander places it, the marines build it, and it detonates in a X amount of time, killing <b>everything</b> in a certain radius
Although I REALLY wish they were back in the game. Maybe not in official maps, but it would be oh so fun if I could play customs with them.
Miss:
Old Fade Blink
Old Acid Rocket
Old Lerk Flight
Spikes
Paralyze
Stomp being decent enough to use
Web at Hive 2
Babblers
Nukes
Fade's Bilebomb
Bonzai Bases
Relocating to strange areas
USING /stuck TO GET INTO PLACES YOU SHOULDN'T! Oh man, good times there.
Don't Miss:
Lifeform Restrictions
Old JPs
1 Gorge
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ah yes, relocating to the outer place close to cargo hive in ns_lost was funny, going fade in fusion reactor on ns_tanith and get in that water..tubish..thing.. ( meh? ) was also fun.
The Marines used to dread the Hive 3 weapons.
Oh, yeah I also miss babblers.
Hmm... Why couldn't the current blink speed just be increased to some really huge number? Should have the same effect... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
They were superflous to the game... in EVERY 1.0x game, the team that got two hives first won. If you had three hives you had ALREADY won when you had two hives. Thus, all 3-hive abilities were icing on the cake, and that included the Onos, which was practically unstoppable due to the hitbox bug, but pointless because THE GAME WAS ALREADY OVER LONG AGO..
They LAGGED THE SERVER LIKE HELL. Every babbler used more and more of the CPU. You know how there were so few servers in the 1.0x days? That's because running a server was expensive, because you needed the entire box to yourself, and could only run one instance of the game. Babblers were part of that.
They popped like balloons. I forget whether they died at one or two bullets, but it didn't matter. They died INSTANTLY when shot at.
They didn't actually attack marines more than half the time. This is because they all too often refused to run up hills. Corners confused them. Heck, sometimes running in a straight line on level ground confused them! And when they got confused, due to using snark code, they'd turn on you and start biting the gorge that birthed them! They were more dangerous to the gorge than to the marines! Web was a better weapon (and gorges got that at TWO HIVES)!
You know what I hated? The old blink.
It was next to impossible to figure out where you would actually end up when you clicked. It was uncontrollable. It got you STUCK IN WALLS. It never helped actually kill marines. It was never used, mostly because Acid Rocket was a 1-Hive weapon and was a death weapon to make the marines tremble (acid rocket was the reason that obtaining 2 hives meant victory for the aliens... by that time, everyone on the team had enough resources to go fade at the same time, they all did so, and they all could spam Acid Rockets, which demolished everything and everyone). The only time I -ever- used it was to try and blink up to the top of elevators without having to wait for the elevators (and that worked very VERY rarely) and when I was seperated from the group for whatever reason and being chased by a marine (In which case only SOMETIMES would blink help at ALL)
You know what I hated? The old lerk flight.
You couldn't turn corners! You couldn't stay low to the ground! There was no chance at all of swooping into a pack of marines, munching, then flying out like a bat out of hell. The only use for flight was to go STRAIGHT UP... making it more or less the same thing as wall walking. You found a high perch and you spiked. No flying ever actually happened on ANY server I EVER saw. I couldn't do it. I've never seen anyone who could. Oh yes, I've heard reports... legendary lerks who could actually wrestle flight into something useful. Never encountered one.
Now ANYONE can fly as a lerk. If you can use "freelook" you can lerk. Just spam spacebar, face where you want to go, and you go there. I can catch JPers in the air with bite. I can swoop, dodge, do all kinds of cool stuff. Lerk is now my CO evolution of choice.
Know what I also hated? Getting stuck for no apparent reason at random, forcing someone to create an unstuck plugin, which created exploits like letting marines go outside nancy. *GRRRR* I hated that. Servers rarely even install unstuck anymore, because NO ONE EVER GETS STUCK. I've never seen anyone get stuck since the 1.0x days.
Know what was worthless? The old paralyze. What was the sense in an ONOS weapon that still let the enemy shoot! I mean, heck, even the gorge can stop them from firing. The ONLY use for paralyze was for taking out JPers, and if you had an onos, that meant the game was already over long ago, which meant that JPers didn't exist.
Nukes never existed in any public release. How can you miss them? All reports I heard was that they made the game no fun at all.
You know what I loved? Not playing 1.04 anymore and switching to 2.0. Unchained Evolutions! Bug fixes! Sensories that were worth something! Multiple Gorges! Battle Gorges! Improved maps! No more framerate dependant effects like Jetpacks!
Only thing I miss from 1.0x is a leap that can kill, and an acid rocket that can kill. But I'd hate to see Acid Rocket be 1 or 2 hive weapons... keep it 3rd, just make it as good as the old one was, or thereabouts. Everything else I liked about 1.0x can be attributed to the freshness of the game, and lack of any better alternative.
Paralyze was certainly not useless. You could shoot down JPers with it. Its sure as hell better than stomp, which now wears off so quickly its not even worth using.
Fade Blink actually was a teleport. Not some stupid "speed up a whole lot" move. It was buggy for sure, but was a lot more fun.
Babblers and nukes I wouldn't care TOO much if they were left out entirely, but they were fun. Lots of fun. Would be nice to see them still be in the game, accessible by cheats. Maybe that crazy life-support armor too and the medlab, but I dunno how much work was done on those.
And stucking into places you shouldnt is a lot of fun. Cmon, havent you ever played hide and seek as a kid?
Where you can build buildings from being the commander.
When you could of made a CC in the wall in Tanith Marine Start. I use to build a cc up there, then wait for 20 res, drop a cc in satcom vent, build it, wait for 20 more res, build an ip on the ledge, then watch all the marines shoot satcomm. That was THE BEST!
You get 1 free res every 4 seconds <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Yeah someone should make a mod where you can make a nuke that would be the ****. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Lerk Spikes
Being able to fly side to side or backwards
Paralyze
Acid rockets that killed marines, not turret farms
/stucking into or building in places you shouldn't have access to
Hive sight that -did something.-
Jetpackers that could be killed
Third hive abilities being useful
I don't miss:
..uh.. I don't know.. bugs?