Rotk: Extended Edition News
<div class="IPBDescription">***SPOILERS***</div> In case people missed the topic heading and don't wish to know some of what will be on the Return of the King extended edition DVD
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<a href='http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1095024340' target='_blank'>Link</a>
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Additional scenes expected to appear in the Extended Edition are:
1. The long-awaited confrontation with Saruman at Orthanc which was cut from the theatrical edition. At the end of this confrontation, Saruman is killed by Grima, who pushes him, causing him to fall and impale himself on a spiky wheel. (An image of Saruman impaled has been floating around for a few years). This scene is an homage to Christopher Lee, who has appeared in numerous Dracula and other horror films in his long career, dating back to 1948.
2. Grima’s death. Legolas shoots Grima at Orthanc.
3. Merry swearing allegiance to King Theoden. Merry’s role is expanded in several scenes in the Extended Edition.
4. A scene between Aragorn and Eowyn, in her bedroom at Edoras. Many people seeing this image on the Internet believed it was set in the Houses of Healing.
5. A drinking game at Edoras involving Legolas and Gimli.
6. A conversation between Eomer and Eowyn that gives us insight into their relationship.
7. Aragorn explains Pippin’s flight.
8. A conversation between Elrond and Arwen , again giving us insight into their relationship.
9. Footage of Aragorn with the palantir.
10. Much more footage from the journey through the Paths of the Dead. In one spectacular scene, skulls rain down on Aragorn. Aragorn leaves the Kingdom of the Dead without an answer to his question, “What say you?”
11. Legolas consoles Aragorn after they leave the Paths of the Dead, placing his hand on Aragorn’s shoulder. (This image has also been floating around for a few years, and has been the subject of caption contests.)
12. There is much more background on the black ships of the Corsairs. The Army of the Dead arrive and conquer the Corsairs. Look closely and you will see a lot of cast and WETA production crew members in these fight scenes. (Remember that Peter Jackson’s cameo in the theatrical version was as a Corsair.)
13. Expanded conversation between Gandalf and Pippin in Minas Tirith, including Gandalf’s explanation of significance of The White Tree.
14. A conversation between Pippin and Faramir.
15. Expanded treatment of the Siege of Gondor (could this get any bigger?) including more battering rams, more Orcish machinery, and more about the defense and taking of the White City. More decapitated heads are launched from catapults. Oliphants charge into the walls of Minas Tirith.
16. The long-awaited encounter between Gandalf and the Witch King. The Witch King’s sword bursts into flame. Gandalf’s staff is broken. Gandalf is shown rescuing Faramir.
17. Eomer finds Theoden dead on the battlefield, then finds the wounded Eowyn. He is overcome with grief.
18. Pippin finds Merry on the battlefield at night, after a day-long search. A much longer scene than in the theatrical edition.
19. Gorbag is shown taking Frodo’s possessions from him.
20. In the Houses of Healing, Eomer and Aragorn talk.
21. Aragorn is shown walking in the throne room in Minas Tirith.
22. More footage of Frodo and Sam in Mordor, including their marching with orcs and Sam discarding his pots and pans.
23. The long-waited Mouth of Sauron comes out of the Gates of Mordor to confront Aragorn and his forces, displaying the items taken from Frodo. The Mouth character is blind, just a mouth. (This presence of this scene helps explain Aragorn’s battle cry, “For Frodo!”)
24. Merry and Pippin despair on the battlefield after seeing Frodo’s clothes and mithril vest.
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I'm thrilled at this news. I was dissapointed that many of these scenes didn't make it into the theatrical release, but now I'll have a chance to see them. The part I'm looking forwards to the most? Gandalf's battle with the Witch King.
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<a href='http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1095024340' target='_blank'>Link</a>
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Additional scenes expected to appear in the Extended Edition are:
1. The long-awaited confrontation with Saruman at Orthanc which was cut from the theatrical edition. At the end of this confrontation, Saruman is killed by Grima, who pushes him, causing him to fall and impale himself on a spiky wheel. (An image of Saruman impaled has been floating around for a few years). This scene is an homage to Christopher Lee, who has appeared in numerous Dracula and other horror films in his long career, dating back to 1948.
2. Grima’s death. Legolas shoots Grima at Orthanc.
3. Merry swearing allegiance to King Theoden. Merry’s role is expanded in several scenes in the Extended Edition.
4. A scene between Aragorn and Eowyn, in her bedroom at Edoras. Many people seeing this image on the Internet believed it was set in the Houses of Healing.
5. A drinking game at Edoras involving Legolas and Gimli.
6. A conversation between Eomer and Eowyn that gives us insight into their relationship.
7. Aragorn explains Pippin’s flight.
8. A conversation between Elrond and Arwen , again giving us insight into their relationship.
9. Footage of Aragorn with the palantir.
10. Much more footage from the journey through the Paths of the Dead. In one spectacular scene, skulls rain down on Aragorn. Aragorn leaves the Kingdom of the Dead without an answer to his question, “What say you?”
11. Legolas consoles Aragorn after they leave the Paths of the Dead, placing his hand on Aragorn’s shoulder. (This image has also been floating around for a few years, and has been the subject of caption contests.)
12. There is much more background on the black ships of the Corsairs. The Army of the Dead arrive and conquer the Corsairs. Look closely and you will see a lot of cast and WETA production crew members in these fight scenes. (Remember that Peter Jackson’s cameo in the theatrical version was as a Corsair.)
13. Expanded conversation between Gandalf and Pippin in Minas Tirith, including Gandalf’s explanation of significance of The White Tree.
14. A conversation between Pippin and Faramir.
15. Expanded treatment of the Siege of Gondor (could this get any bigger?) including more battering rams, more Orcish machinery, and more about the defense and taking of the White City. More decapitated heads are launched from catapults. Oliphants charge into the walls of Minas Tirith.
16. The long-awaited encounter between Gandalf and the Witch King. The Witch King’s sword bursts into flame. Gandalf’s staff is broken. Gandalf is shown rescuing Faramir.
17. Eomer finds Theoden dead on the battlefield, then finds the wounded Eowyn. He is overcome with grief.
18. Pippin finds Merry on the battlefield at night, after a day-long search. A much longer scene than in the theatrical edition.
19. Gorbag is shown taking Frodo’s possessions from him.
20. In the Houses of Healing, Eomer and Aragorn talk.
21. Aragorn is shown walking in the throne room in Minas Tirith.
22. More footage of Frodo and Sam in Mordor, including their marching with orcs and Sam discarding his pots and pans.
23. The long-waited Mouth of Sauron comes out of the Gates of Mordor to confront Aragorn and his forces, displaying the items taken from Frodo. The Mouth character is blind, just a mouth. (This presence of this scene helps explain Aragorn’s battle cry, “For Frodo!”)
24. Merry and Pippin despair on the battlefield after seeing Frodo’s clothes and mithril vest.
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I'm thrilled at this news. I was dissapointed that many of these scenes didn't make it into the theatrical release, but now I'll have a chance to see them. The part I'm looking forwards to the most? Gandalf's battle with the Witch King.
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No, no, a thousand times no. I am forever in Peter Jackson's debt for cutting that mincing dancing abomination out of the movies. If I want to see naked hobbits running on a hill while a latent pedophile in yellow boots sings nonsense songs I'll go to 4chan.
i already have the extended versions of the first two, I havnt bought the 3rd theatrical release yet. Ive been waiting so long for this. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oooh
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TORn staffers also reported that the ROTK Extended Edition may, repeat MAY, play theatrically during or close to Thanksgiving weekend. Also, that there is a possibility of another set of DVDs with additional footage in 2006 or 2007, but the films themselves will not be recut. The possibilities are endless, given that about 12 MILLION feet of documentary footage was shot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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No, no, a thousand times no. I am forever in Peter Jackson's debt for cutting that mincing dancing abomination out of the movies. If I want to see naked hobbits running on a hill while a latent pedophile in yellow boots sings nonsense songs I'll go to 4chan. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah but they bastardised the whole beginning of the movie to remove it....
No moving out of bag end.
No secret conspiracy while he moved to a new house.
Meh... I can hardly keep angry with the movie though
Smeagul sad....
22. More footage of Frodo and Sam in Mordor, including their marching with orcs and Sam discarding his pots and pans.
23. The long-waited Mouth of Sauron comes out of the Gates of Mordor to confront Aragorn and his forces, displaying the items taken from Frodo. The Mouth character is blind, just a mouth. (This presence of this scene helps explain Aragorn’s battle cry, “For Frodo!”)
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Hell yes! this stuff should have been in the Film to begin with. It was in the book after all.
ROTK is now perfect.
I'd imagine a mouth made from flames, as in like a pair of lips.
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no, from the book I got the sense that it was a separate person who simply represented sauron. In fact the book talks about his background a little. I also pictured a full face not just a mouth, but oh well.
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no, from the book I got the sense that it was a separate person who simply represented sauron. In fact the book talks about his background a little. I also pictured a full face not just a mouth, but oh well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know who the actor is so it won't be 'just a mouth'
He is the gangly fellow who flew the plane in Mad Max:Beyond Thunderdome and played the Trainmaster in Matrix Revolutions.
While it says he will be blind and just a mouth, imagine a dark knight with no helmet but a black rag covering his eyes as if he were blind. (or no eyes at all ala one-eyed willy in Goonies or the Myrdraal(sic) from the Wheel of Time.)
That was the scene/sequence I was most disappointed to see excluded and it was probably the most ironic part of the book. I was also hoping to see that in the extended version but i geuss its not gunna happen. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Indeed, a gorier but less climatic ending. Ill take the latter any day though.
j/k, although it's weird that he didn't even mention it, or any of the 'Healer King' Aragorn.
There are plans of a boxed set for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
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Better safe than flamed
Indeed, a gorier but less climatic ending. Ill take the latter any day though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually I think it would be more climatic without the Razing of the Shire, while it's a great part in the book, in a movie it would just be anti-climatic and after all of the rises and falls, I think the audience would begin to feel like their emotions were "played with" too much, just like in the first movie when Frodo was <i>almost</i> killed 20 times.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they even shot any film on the Razing of the Shire so it wouldn't be included in this DVD anyway.
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Affirmative.
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That is true because the movie is already very climactic and the above sequence might only add to the discomfort of sitting still for 3 and a half hours. And maybe im just thinking in terms of the book because, to me atleast, if Saruman and Wormtongue were just killed off like flies, it would seem to me that Tolkien got tired of writing so he just killed them off to be done. Instead, since Saruman was a man of great strangth and power and since he was left alone to rot away, he schemed up another plan for power.
Maybe the right word isnt climactic, but the razing of the Shire follows the character development of Saruman better than being impaled by a 75 ft. spike.
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Negative x50, I honestly cannot see the charm in such a character, and given the movie wasn't THAT fantasy as to include such a ... rather unusual character in it, i'm glad they left him out alltogether.