Can I make this more clear? The script is serverside, just like lastinv. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since it works on continually reassigning the slot1-4 commands, are you saying that the slot commands are actually serverside as well? This could explain a lot of weird issues that crop up with slot based weapon switching... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well the script is serverside, so I guess that means slotx are too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-agentx5+Sep 16 2004, 01:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (agentx5 @ Sep 16 2004, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's no saying there's no skill in TFC or CS as n00bs get owned very badly in most pubs, but if you don't have scripts to do partial zoom-ins or build-control SG's or conc-jump you will have a harder time. Everyone who is good had made their own custom set so you are the odd ball if you don't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why do people assume scripts are there for everything...?
In TFC, a partial zoom script won't give you any advantadge whatsoever. Go ahead and use it all you want, you'll get owned while you're zoomed in. Seriously, worthless. Build control SG's? What the hell? Do you mean binding a key to build a SG? I don't see how that really gives you a huge advantadge. Conc jump script now that one is really hilarious. NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE GAME OF TFC USES ONE. The most you could get one to work is like 2% of the time. Anyone who is consistently HHing with concs has just practiced. It's not a script. Period. Custom set of scripts? I guess I could buy that although they would mostly be preference, like rebinding certain keys when you switch classes or whatever, nothing that would actually give you an advantadge in a fight...
TFC is just like NS: there is a whopping *one* script that could be construed as unfair, a jump script, (3jump or _special). In TFC a 3jump is pretty widely accepted (how it should be in NS), and a _special script is barely fought over...
Why do people call me a cheater when I shoot them when they are cloaked? "Scripter" is the new term for a person who is better then you. Hell I'm not even close to some of the guys that play, but I get called a cheater every damn time I play. Look at all the geniuses trolling any thread that mentions the word "script" calling Cal players everything from "no skilled" to "nubs". Don't say anything about them though or else your post will get edited. Meanwhile I can't use a 3-jump script to bunny hop so I'm going to need to get a mouse with a functional mousewheel to bunny hop properly. This debate just keeps getting more and more assinine with every post.
By the way what is the "official" stance on bunnyhop and other sorts of scripting, and what is planned to be done about it in beta6 aside from the complete removal of _special?
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Sep 16 2004, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Sep 16 2004, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 16 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 16 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Sep 16 2004, 08:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 16 2004, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because we know how succesful mp_blockscript leagues are <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> only because of people like you who can't play without them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i suggest you go back to cs or dod
you guys are even funnier in tfc, i suggest you go back to games that don't revolve around experienced knowledge of the engine, rather then point click. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Um... that is a bad thing generally speaking (for FPS at least). You generally want a game to be as intuitive as possible for new players... NS is complicated as it is I see no reason to increase the counterintuitive factor by requiring an unspoken in depth knowlage of the HL engine to effectively compare to any other good player.
lets have a little more of sharing scripts and a little less of scripts being fair or not fair. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-illusion07+Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illusion07 @ Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lets have a little more of sharing scripts and a little less of scripts being fair or not fair. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you.
Yes God knows all good players are 100% bhop. WITHOUT THEIR BHOP THEY ARE NOTHING... NOTHING!
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your arguement doesn't really stand up. Fading for example... 99% of clanners Fade with 0 scripts (aside from communication etc). Same with marine... pretty much the only thing mp_bs would effect is how effective a bhopper someone is... which is pretty much just skulking.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 17 2004, 10:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 17 2004, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-illusion07+Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illusion07 @ Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lets have a little more of sharing scripts and a little less of scripts being fair or not fair. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Playing on mp_blockscript servers is a waste of time. Players who have tried so were labelled by those communities as "exploiting the scripts in unknown ways". Playing with people who do not understand that "you" know much more then them is a waste of time. More importantly, i understand a anti-scripters point of view, i understand a scripters point of view. But those are points of view and they in reality mean nothing. Only 1 thing matters, and that is what is wrong and what is right. And the only "thing" that can tell you between "right" & "wrong" is experience. Either you gain the knowledge from experience or from someone with the experience. The issue is people who do not have the experience "think" they know what their talking about yet they do not. I know they don't and so do some others but the problem is the majority think they are right. The clueless lead the clueless.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 17 2004, 10:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 17 2004, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-illusion07+Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illusion07 @ Sep 17 2004, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lets have a little more of sharing scripts and a little less of scripts being fair or not fair. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Okay dude just play cal man since all of us use our +aim and +kill scripts you should have no trouble coming in and owning us all up
Forlorn, you certainly have a way with words. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> A little heavy on the elitism, but the point remains.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, I've had it. I do honestly not care anymore who's right here, but the acid sarcasm representatives of both sides use to defend their points is getting too far. Are you a scripter? Fine by me. I don't use them myself, but hell, to each his own. But if you feel it necessary to come to these boards and insult the intelligence of everyone disliking scripts, you will be suspended. Don't like scripts? Be our guest. We fixed the blockscripts cvar, search yourself a server with it enabled and have fun. But call someone cheater for using 3jump around here, and your presence will no longer be required.
I'm by the way positively surprised by those members on the first two pages who've apparently managed to realize that the scripting issue is not black or white. I congratulate you, folks, you just used your brains.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Can I make this more clear? The script is serverside, just like lastinv.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since it works on continually reassigning the slot1-4 commands, are you saying that the slot commands are actually serverside as well? This could explain a lot of weird issues that crop up with slot based weapon switching... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well the script is serverside, so I guess that means slotx are too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Why do people assume scripts are there for everything...?
In TFC, a partial zoom script won't give you any advantadge whatsoever. Go ahead and use it all you want, you'll get owned while you're zoomed in. Seriously, worthless.
Build control SG's? What the hell? Do you mean binding a key to build a SG? I don't see how that really gives you a huge advantadge.
Conc jump script now that one is really hilarious. NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE GAME OF TFC USES ONE. The most you could get one to work is like 2% of the time. Anyone who is consistently HHing with concs has just practiced. It's not a script. Period.
Custom set of scripts? I guess I could buy that although they would mostly be preference, like rebinding certain keys when you switch classes or whatever, nothing that would actually give you an advantadge in a fight...
TFC is just like NS: there is a whopping *one* script that could be construed as unfair, a jump script, (3jump or _special). In TFC a 3jump is pretty widely accepted (how it should be in NS), and a _special script is barely fought over...
By the way what is the "official" stance on bunnyhop and other sorts of scripting, and what is planned to be done about it in beta6 aside from the complete removal of _special?
only because of people like you who can't play without them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i suggest you go back to cs or dod
you guys are even funnier in tfc, i suggest you go back to games that don't revolve around experienced knowledge of the engine, rather then point click. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um... that is a bad thing generally speaking (for FPS at least). You generally want a game to be as intuitive as possible for new players... NS is complicated as it is I see no reason to increase the counterintuitive factor by requiring an unspoken in depth knowlage of the HL engine to effectively compare to any other good player.
alias silence "voice_scale 0; stopsound; developer 1; echo No more voices; developer 0; bind n nosilence"
alias nosilence "voice_scale 1; stopsound; developer 1; echo Voices return; developer 0; bind n silence"
bind "n" "silence"
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Best script evar!
Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you.
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your arguement doesn't really stand up. Fading for example... 99% of clanners Fade with 0 scripts (aside from communication etc). Same with marine... pretty much the only thing mp_bs would effect is how effective a bhopper someone is... which is pretty much just skulking.
Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Playing on mp_blockscript servers is a waste of time. Players who have tried so were labelled by those communities as "exploiting the scripts in unknown ways". Playing with people who do not understand that "you" know much more then them is a waste of time. More importantly, i understand a anti-scripters point of view, i understand a scripters point of view. But those are points of view and they in reality mean nothing. Only 1 thing matters, and that is what is wrong and what is right. And the only "thing" that can tell you between "right" & "wrong" is experience. Either you gain the knowledge from experience or from someone with the experience. The issue is people who do not have the experience "think" they know what their talking about yet they do not. I know they don't and so do some others but the problem is the majority think they are right. The clueless lead the clueless.
Good point.
I also like how I post a load of scripts on this thread & then I'm labelled by people who never bother to read the entire thread as an anti-scripter. I'm not anti-script I just know the difference between a naturally good player & a player who is good because of his scripts. Ask yourself which one you are or try playing on a server with mp_blockscripts & see how good you are.
Good to see guys like Forlorn & Hobojoe making people welcome, wouldn't want to change the habit of a lifetime would you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Okay dude just play cal man since all of us use our +aim and +kill scripts you should have no trouble coming in and owning us all up
As in the other thread, my lil' warning:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, I've had it. I do honestly not care anymore who's right here, but the acid sarcasm representatives of both sides use to defend their points is getting too far.
Are you a scripter? Fine by me. I don't use them myself, but hell, to each his own. But if you feel it necessary to come to these boards and insult the intelligence of everyone disliking scripts, you will be suspended.
Don't like scripts? Be our guest. We fixed the blockscripts cvar, search yourself a server with it enabled and have fun. But call someone cheater for using 3jump around here, and your presence will no longer be required.
I'm by the way positively surprised by those members on the first two pages who've apparently managed to realize that the scripting issue is not black or white. I congratulate you, folks, you just used your brains.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->